Tegger wrote:
>
>> Anywho the tempeture guage on my cluster NEVER worked, the previous
>> owner said one day it went out and never fixed it. I would like to
>> know where the sensor is located so i can replace it or test it out
>> see if it works, better yet what is the proper name for it. I just
>> have this thing that i really want to fix it, its bothering me.
>
>The gauge sensor is usually located at the rear (passenger side) of the head,
>just forward of the thermostat housing. These do not usually go bad at all. I
>suspect the original owner unplugged it so as to cover up the overheating, so
>look for disconnected wires/connectors in that location.
>

okay, so i notice when i took of the thermostat the housing part that comes
of (like the other half, there is a switch/sensor which sticks out from it.)
from what i thought this switch/sensor is for the radiator fan, it tells it
when to turn on. IS this the same sensor for the temperature guage?

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Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
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> "Cessi via CarKB.com" <u40381@uwe> wrote in news:7dbb4e8c74c6b@uwe:
>
>
>> Anywho the tempeture guage on my cluster NEVER worked, the previous
>> owner said one day it went out and never fixed it. I would like to
>> know where the sensor is located so i can replace it or test it out
>> see if it works, better yet what is the proper name for it. I just
>> have this thing that i really want to fix it, its bothering me.
>>
>
>
> The gauge sensor is usually located at the rear (passenger side) of
> the head, just forward of the thermostat housing. These do not usually
> go bad at all. I suspect the original owner unplugged it so as to
> cover up the overheating, so look for disconnected wires/connectors in
> that location.
>

aren't the engine coolant temp sensor(ECT) and the temp gauge
sensor("sending unit") separate?
the ECT feeds the ECU,and the temp gauge sensor feeds the gauge directly.
Also,the ECT is a OFF/ON switch,and the temp sensor is a thermistor.

that's how it shows in my Haynes manual for Integra and 96-00 Civic.

According to that manual,the temp gauge sending unit has a single wire and
is next to the distributor,the ECT is on the thermostat housing,has a 2-
wire conector
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"Cessi via CarKB.com" <u40381@uwe> wrote
> okay, so i notice when i took of the thermostat the
> housing part that comes
> of (like the other half, there is a switch/sensor which
> sticks out from it.)
> from what i thought this switch/sensor is for the radiator
> fan, it tells it
> when to turn on. IS this the same sensor for the
> temperature guage?

The illustrations and tests at the following site may help:
http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...df/23-a123.pdf

The Factory Service manual for your 97 Civic DX is available
at http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
> "Cessi via CarKB.com" <u40381@uwe> wrote
>> okay, so i notice when i took of the thermostat the
>> housing part that comes
>> of (like the other half, there is a switch/sensor which
>> sticks out from it.)
>> from what i thought this switch/sensor is for the
>> radiator fan, it tells it
>> when to turn on. IS this the same sensor for the
>> temperature guage?
>
> The illustrations and tests at the following site may
> help:
> http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...df/23-a123.pdf

Even better illustration:

http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...l/pdf/10-9.pdf

and OEM part #s and prices may be had at

http://www.bkhondaparts.com/ , under "Water Pump-Sensor"

 

Cessi wrote:
<SNIP>
> Quick facts... the radiator fan is rig(ged) because it wouldn't turn ON on its own
> so it always turns on as soon as i turn on the key ! i thought maybe the
> sensor is out. AND my biggest problem for now and i REALLY want to fix if
> possible, the temperature GAUGE on the dash doesn't work at all it has been on
> cool the whole time its like it doesn't read it.
>
----------------------

If the system would never turn on the fan, and the gauuge always shows
COLD, it sounds like you've always had AIR in the system since the rad
was repaired. The reservoir has to be kept at MAX (per the owner's
manual) whenever you've had work done on the cooling system. Yes, you'll
blow up (old) hoses if the system is full of air and the thermostat
can't open if it's not immersed in hot water.

If it was mine, I'd top up the rad _and reservoir_ DAILY and see how
long it takes to stop 'sipping' coolant. As the air is displaced the
coolant level drops overnight.

'Curly'

 

On Jan 5, 9:00 am, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> http://www.bkhondaparts.com/, under "Water Pump-Sensor"

Hey, that shows the thermostat for the B16 (1995 del sol vtec) and the
d16 (92 civic ex) as the same part number! last place like this i
looked at (see boring thread a few weeks ago) the automated web page
claimed to have the d16 stat in stock and the b16 not available?

 

Sue 'em.

Seriously, these online parts stores are often run by expert
part guys who are amateur web people. Calling the store up
usually yields a good explanation.

"z" <gzuckier@snail-mail.net> wrote
On Jan 5, 9:00 am, "Elle"
<honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> http://www.bkhondaparts.com/, under "Water Pump-Sensor"

Hey, that shows the thermostat for the B16 (1995 del sol
vtec) and the
d16 (92 civic ex) as the same part number! last place like
this i
looked at (see boring thread a few weeks ago) the automated
web page
claimed to have the d16 stat in stock and the b16 not
available?

 

On Jan 10, 6:59 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> Sue 'em.
>
> Seriously, these online parts stores are often run by expert
> part guys who are amateur web people. Calling the store up
> usually yields a good explanation.
>
> "z" <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote
> On Jan 5, 9:00 am, "Elle"
>
> <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> >http://www.bkhondaparts.com/, under "Water Pump-Sensor"
>
> Hey, that shows the thermostat for the B16 (1995 del sol
> vtec) and the
> d16 (92 civic ex) as the same part number! last place like
> this i
> looked at (see boring thread a few weeks ago) the automated
> web page
> claimed to have the d16 stat in stock and the b16 not
> available?

"Hey, do you have a 3/4 inch socket? "
"No, the closest we have would be a 0.75"

 

Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>>> Anywho the tempeture guage on my cluster NEVER worked, the previous
>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> cover up the overheating, so look for disconnected wires/connectors in
>> that location.
>
>aren't the engine coolant temp sensor(ECT) and the temp gauge
>sensor("sending unit") separate?
>the ECT feeds the ECU,and the temp gauge sensor feeds the gauge directly.
>Also,the ECT is a OFF/ON switch,and the temp sensor is a thermistor.
>
>that's how it shows in my Haynes manual for Integra and 96-00 Civic.
>
>According to that manual,the temp gauge sending unit has a single wire and
>is next to the distributor,the ECT is on the thermostat housing,has a 2-
>wire conector

Where is my water pump located?

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"Cessi via CarKB.com" <u40381@uwe> wrote in news:7e1d50cbeae39@uwe:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anywho the tempeture guage on my cluster NEVER worked, the previous
>>[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>> cover up the overheating, so look for disconnected wires/connectors
>>> in that location.
>>
>>aren't the engine coolant temp sensor(ECT) and the temp gauge
>>sensor("sending unit") separate?
>>the ECT feeds the ECU,and the temp gauge sensor feeds the gauge
>>directly. Also,the ECT is a OFF/ON switch,and the temp sensor is a
>>thermistor.
>>
>>that's how it shows in my Haynes manual for Integra and 96-00 Civic.
>>
>>According to that manual,the temp gauge sending unit has a single wire
>>and is next to the distributor,the ECT is on the thermostat
>>housing,has a 2- wire conector
>
> Where is my water pump located?
>

underneath the timing belt cover.(the WP is driven by the timing belt)
pix shows it being next to the alternator.

a good time to replace the timing belt,too.

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Cessi via CarKB.com wrote:
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anywho the tempeture guage on my cluster NEVER worked, the previous
>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>> cover up the overheating, so look for disconnected wires/connectors in
>>> that location.
>> aren't the engine coolant temp sensor(ECT) and the temp gauge
>> sensor("sending unit") separate?
>> the ECT feeds the ECU,and the temp gauge sensor feeds the gauge directly.
>> Also,the ECT is a OFF/ON switch,and the temp sensor is a thermistor.
>>
>> that's how it shows in my Haynes manual for Integra and 96-00 Civic.
>>
>> According to that manual,the temp gauge sending unit has a single wire and
>> is next to the distributor,the ECT is on the thermostat housing,has a 2-
>> wire conector
>
> Where is my water pump located?
>

why? unless there's something /seriously/ wrong, water pump won't
affect the temp shown on the gauge. there are three water temp sensors
- one for the ecu, one for the gauge, and one for the radiator fan
switch. the one you want is the single wire doo-dad under the
distributor. check for good electrical connection, then test the gauge.
at this stage, the honda manual from helminc.com is going to be a good
investment for you as well.