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John 01-17-2004 04:56 PM

Honda starting problems
 
I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
switch and therefore the car would not start.

So far I have:
1. Replaced the battery
2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)

But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
- Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
- Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
- How about a faulty fuel pump?
- Replay perhaps

I would appreciate any help greatly !

John



Randolph 01-17-2004 05:58 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
removed and sold it.

When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
the distributor. Do you have spark?

Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
wires back in the correct order?



John wrote:
>
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John


Randolph 01-17-2004 05:58 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
removed and sold it.

When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
the distributor. Do you have spark?

Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
wires back in the correct order?



John wrote:
>
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John


Randolph 01-17-2004 05:58 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
removed and sold it.

When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
the distributor. Do you have spark?

Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
wires back in the correct order?



John wrote:
>
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John


Randolph 01-17-2004 05:58 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
removed and sold it.

When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
the distributor. Do you have spark?

Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
wires back in the correct order?



John wrote:
>
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John


Randolph 01-17-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity.
(tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you
can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping
the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If
this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC.

Randolph wrote:
>
> When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
> start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
> there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
> points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
> removed and sold it.
>
> When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
> igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
> the distributor. Do you have spark?
>
> Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
> wires back in the correct order?
>
> John wrote:
> >
> > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> > switch and therefore the car would not start.
> >
> > So far I have:
> > 1. Replaced the battery
> > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
> >
> > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> > - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> > - Replay perhaps
> >
> > I would appreciate any help greatly !
> >
> > John


Randolph 01-17-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity.
(tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you
can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping
the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If
this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC.

Randolph wrote:
>
> When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
> start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
> there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
> points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
> removed and sold it.
>
> When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
> igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
> the distributor. Do you have spark?
>
> Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
> wires back in the correct order?
>
> John wrote:
> >
> > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> > switch and therefore the car would not start.
> >
> > So far I have:
> > 1. Replaced the battery
> > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
> >
> > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> > - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> > - Replay perhaps
> >
> > I would appreciate any help greatly !
> >
> > John


Randolph 01-17-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity.
(tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you
can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping
the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If
this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC.

Randolph wrote:
>
> When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
> start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
> there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
> points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
> removed and sold it.
>
> When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
> igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
> the distributor. Do you have spark?
>
> Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
> wires back in the correct order?
>
> John wrote:
> >
> > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> > switch and therefore the car would not start.
> >
> > So far I have:
> > 1. Replaced the battery
> > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
> >
> > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> > - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> > - Replay perhaps
> >
> > I would appreciate any help greatly !
> >
> > John


Randolph 01-17-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity.
(tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you
can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping
the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If
this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC.

Randolph wrote:
>
> When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to
> start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not,
> there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak
> points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have
> removed and sold it.
>
> When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the
> igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside
> the distributor. Do you have spark?
>
> Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug
> wires back in the correct order?
>
> John wrote:
> >
> > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was stolen
> > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I got
> > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> > switch and therefore the car would not start.
> >
> > So far I have:
> > 1. Replaced the battery
> > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
> >
> > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> > - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> > - Replay perhaps
> >
> > I would appreciate any help greatly !
> >
> > John


Ducky 01-17-2004 06:17 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting.

"John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was

stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I

got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John
>
>




Ducky 01-17-2004 06:17 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting.

"John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was

stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I

got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John
>
>




Ducky 01-17-2004 06:17 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting.

"John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was

stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I

got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John
>
>




Ducky 01-17-2004 06:17 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting.

"John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was

stolen
> from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I

got
> it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> switch and therefore the car would not start.
>
> So far I have:
> 1. Replaced the battery
> 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
>
> But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> - Replay perhaps
>
> I would appreciate any help greatly !
>
> John
>
>




Randolph 01-17-2004 06:42 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil
pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would
there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure
until after the engine is running anyway.


Ducky wrote:
>
> And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting.
>
> "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was

> stolen
> > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I

> got
> > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> > switch and therefore the car would not start.
> >
> > So far I have:
> > 1. Replaced the battery
> > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
> >
> > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> > - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> > - Replay perhaps
> >
> > I would appreciate any help greatly !
> >
> > John
> >
> >


Randolph 01-17-2004 06:42 PM

Re: Honda starting problems
 
No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil
pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would
there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure
until after the engine is running anyway.


Ducky wrote:
>
> And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting.
>
> "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was

> stolen
> > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I

> got
> > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure
> > switch and therefore the car would not start.
> >
> > So far I have:
> > 1. Replaced the battery
> > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay)
> > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured)
> >
> > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ???
> > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires?
> > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ?
> > - How about a faulty fuel pump?
> > - Replay perhaps
> >
> > I would appreciate any help greatly !
> >
> > John
> >
> >



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