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Re: Honda starting problems
I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches
or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds at startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i have worked on has both...... "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > stolen > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I > > got > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > So far I have: > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ? > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > John > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches
or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds at startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i have worked on has both...... "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > stolen > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I > > got > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > So far I have: > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ? > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > John > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches
or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds at startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i have worked on has both...... "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > stolen > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When I > > got > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil pressure > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > So far I have: > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from starting ? > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > John > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
Woody,
It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking about... I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec spool valve .... Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? John "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds at > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > have worked on has both...... > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > stolen > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > I > > > got > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > pressure > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > starting ? > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
Woody,
It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking about... I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec spool valve .... Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? John "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds at > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > have worked on has both...... > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > stolen > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > I > > > got > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > pressure > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > starting ? > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
Woody,
It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking about... I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec spool valve .... Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? John "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds at > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > have worked on has both...... > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > stolen > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > I > > > got > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > pressure > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > starting ? > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
Woody,
It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking about... I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec spool valve .... Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? John "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds at > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > have worked on has both...... > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > stolen > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > I > > > got > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > pressure > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > starting ? > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
Randolph,
I just verified with the vendor that my distributor is complete with the ICM & coil so I dont think its that. Why do you think retarding or advancing might help? Sorry, I'm a novice here JOhn "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:4009D716.C31B5682@junkmail.com... > It seems you have the service manual, but if you don't you can find some > drawings of the distributor assembly with igniter and coil indicated at > http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DrOhm/di...torRepair.html. > > I have not worked on the distributor on my '94. How close do you think > the timing is after you put a new distributor on the car? Might be worth > trying to retard or advance the timing by 10 degrees or so and try to > start it again. > > John wrote: > > > > Randolph, > > > > 1. I just tried turning the ignition key past accessory and YES I did hear > > it buzz for a couple seconds so I think my relay and fuel pump are ok..... > > > > 2. I am pretty clear on the TDC issue now .... I was able to check with the > > TDC markings on the belt and felt for compression on piston one as I hand > > cranked it from the side bolt. > > > > 3. My wires go in this firing order 1,3,4, 2 (compared to diagram from a > > service manual). Assuming piston one is the furthest right , closest to the > > belts > > > > 4. The distributor I got is brand new and I am still waiting for a reply > > from the seller on whether it included a coil and a ICM. > > > > However, in looking at the distributor, it looks like the coil is in there? > > > > Still it trys to turn over but I dont think it is getting spark... > > > > Thanks for your help ! > > > > John > > > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C009.5FB75906@junkmail.com... > > > I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity. > > > (tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you > > > can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping > > > the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If > > > this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC. > > > > > > Randolph wrote: > > > > > > > > When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to > > > > start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not, > > > > there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak > > > > points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have > > > > removed and sold it. > > > > > > > > When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the > > > > igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside > > > > the distributor. Do you have spark? > > > > > > > > Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug > > > > wires back in the correct order? > > > > > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > > I got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John |
Re: Honda starting problems
Randolph,
I just verified with the vendor that my distributor is complete with the ICM & coil so I dont think its that. Why do you think retarding or advancing might help? Sorry, I'm a novice here JOhn "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:4009D716.C31B5682@junkmail.com... > It seems you have the service manual, but if you don't you can find some > drawings of the distributor assembly with igniter and coil indicated at > http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DrOhm/di...torRepair.html. > > I have not worked on the distributor on my '94. How close do you think > the timing is after you put a new distributor on the car? Might be worth > trying to retard or advance the timing by 10 degrees or so and try to > start it again. > > John wrote: > > > > Randolph, > > > > 1. I just tried turning the ignition key past accessory and YES I did hear > > it buzz for a couple seconds so I think my relay and fuel pump are ok..... > > > > 2. I am pretty clear on the TDC issue now .... I was able to check with the > > TDC markings on the belt and felt for compression on piston one as I hand > > cranked it from the side bolt. > > > > 3. My wires go in this firing order 1,3,4, 2 (compared to diagram from a > > service manual). Assuming piston one is the furthest right , closest to the > > belts > > > > 4. The distributor I got is brand new and I am still waiting for a reply > > from the seller on whether it included a coil and a ICM. > > > > However, in looking at the distributor, it looks like the coil is in there? > > > > Still it trys to turn over but I dont think it is getting spark... > > > > Thanks for your help ! > > > > John > > > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C009.5FB75906@junkmail.com... > > > I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity. > > > (tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you > > > can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping > > > the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If > > > this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC. > > > > > > Randolph wrote: > > > > > > > > When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to > > > > start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not, > > > > there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak > > > > points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have > > > > removed and sold it. > > > > > > > > When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the > > > > igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside > > > > the distributor. Do you have spark? > > > > > > > > Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug > > > > wires back in the correct order? > > > > > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > > I got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John |
Re: Honda starting problems
Randolph,
I just verified with the vendor that my distributor is complete with the ICM & coil so I dont think its that. Why do you think retarding or advancing might help? Sorry, I'm a novice here JOhn "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:4009D716.C31B5682@junkmail.com... > It seems you have the service manual, but if you don't you can find some > drawings of the distributor assembly with igniter and coil indicated at > http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DrOhm/di...torRepair.html. > > I have not worked on the distributor on my '94. How close do you think > the timing is after you put a new distributor on the car? Might be worth > trying to retard or advance the timing by 10 degrees or so and try to > start it again. > > John wrote: > > > > Randolph, > > > > 1. I just tried turning the ignition key past accessory and YES I did hear > > it buzz for a couple seconds so I think my relay and fuel pump are ok..... > > > > 2. I am pretty clear on the TDC issue now .... I was able to check with the > > TDC markings on the belt and felt for compression on piston one as I hand > > cranked it from the side bolt. > > > > 3. My wires go in this firing order 1,3,4, 2 (compared to diagram from a > > service manual). Assuming piston one is the furthest right , closest to the > > belts > > > > 4. The distributor I got is brand new and I am still waiting for a reply > > from the seller on whether it included a coil and a ICM. > > > > However, in looking at the distributor, it looks like the coil is in there? > > > > Still it trys to turn over but I dont think it is getting spark... > > > > Thanks for your help ! > > > > John > > > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C009.5FB75906@junkmail.com... > > > I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity. > > > (tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you > > > can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping > > > the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If > > > this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC. > > > > > > Randolph wrote: > > > > > > > > When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to > > > > start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not, > > > > there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak > > > > points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have > > > > removed and sold it. > > > > > > > > When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the > > > > igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside > > > > the distributor. Do you have spark? > > > > > > > > Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug > > > > wires back in the correct order? > > > > > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > > I got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John |
Re: Honda starting problems
Randolph,
I just verified with the vendor that my distributor is complete with the ICM & coil so I dont think its that. Why do you think retarding or advancing might help? Sorry, I'm a novice here JOhn "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:4009D716.C31B5682@junkmail.com... > It seems you have the service manual, but if you don't you can find some > drawings of the distributor assembly with igniter and coil indicated at > http://www.angelfire.com/ca/DrOhm/di...torRepair.html. > > I have not worked on the distributor on my '94. How close do you think > the timing is after you put a new distributor on the car? Might be worth > trying to retard or advance the timing by 10 degrees or so and try to > start it again. > > John wrote: > > > > Randolph, > > > > 1. I just tried turning the ignition key past accessory and YES I did hear > > it buzz for a couple seconds so I think my relay and fuel pump are ok..... > > > > 2. I am pretty clear on the TDC issue now .... I was able to check with the > > TDC markings on the belt and felt for compression on piston one as I hand > > cranked it from the side bolt. > > > > 3. My wires go in this firing order 1,3,4, 2 (compared to diagram from a > > service manual). Assuming piston one is the furthest right , closest to the > > belts > > > > 4. The distributor I got is brand new and I am still waiting for a reply > > from the seller on whether it included a coil and a ICM. > > > > However, in looking at the distributor, it looks like the coil is in there? > > > > Still it trys to turn over but I dont think it is getting spark... > > > > Thanks for your help ! > > > > John > > > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C009.5FB75906@junkmail.com... > > > I noticed in your other post that you worried about the TDC ambiguity. > > > (tail end of compression stroke or tail end of exhaust stroke). If you > > > can't find the mark in the cam shaft, you could try to simply swapping > > > the #1 and number 4 plug wires and also the #2 and #3 plug wires. If > > > this fixes the problem, you simply had the "wrong" TDC. > > > > > > Randolph wrote: > > > > > > > > When you turn the key to ignition (past accessory, not all the way to > > > > start) do you hear the fuel pump buzzing for a few seconds?. If not, > > > > there probably is an issue with the main relay. It is one of the weak > > > > points on Honda's, so it could have gone bad, or the thieves may have > > > > removed and sold it. > > > > > > > > When you got the new distributor, did it come with the coil and the > > > > igniter (ICM, or ignition control module)? They are both mounted inside > > > > the distributor. Do you have spark? > > > > > > > > Do you have a service manual so that you can check that you got the plug > > > > wires back in the correct order? > > > > > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. When > > I got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John |
Re: Honda starting problems
There are two widgets in that area, the VTEC solenoid valve and the VTEC
oil pressure sender. A fault in either of these will not prevent you from starting the car, it will simply keep the engine from engaging the second set of cam lobes. John wrote: > > Woody, > > It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking > about... > > I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec > spool valve .... > > Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? > > John > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message > news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds > at > > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > > have worked on has both...... > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. > When > > I > > > > got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
There are two widgets in that area, the VTEC solenoid valve and the VTEC
oil pressure sender. A fault in either of these will not prevent you from starting the car, it will simply keep the engine from engaging the second set of cam lobes. John wrote: > > Woody, > > It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking > about... > > I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec > spool valve .... > > Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? > > John > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message > news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds > at > > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > > have worked on has both...... > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. > When > > I > > > > got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
There are two widgets in that area, the VTEC solenoid valve and the VTEC
oil pressure sender. A fault in either of these will not prevent you from starting the car, it will simply keep the engine from engaging the second set of cam lobes. John wrote: > > Woody, > > It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking > about... > > I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec > spool valve .... > > Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? > > John > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message > news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds > at > > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > > have worked on has both...... > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. > When > > I > > > > got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Honda starting problems
There are two widgets in that area, the VTEC solenoid valve and the VTEC
oil pressure sender. A fault in either of these will not prevent you from starting the car, it will simply keep the engine from engaging the second set of cam lobes. John wrote: > > Woody, > > It turns out that I was being a dumbass and didn't know what I was talking > about... > > I dont have a broken oil pressure switch ... instead I have a broken vtec > spool valve .... > > Now would this prevent the car from starting ??? > > John > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message > news:vYkOb.31573$P%1.25167326@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > I don't know about your Honda but many cars have two oil pressure switches > > or a dual switch. One goes to the idiot light and the other is in the > > ignition circuit as a safety measure. It kills the fuel pump if you loose > > oil pressure. It has a bypass relay that bypasses it for several seconds > at > > startup. Maybe Honda is too cheap to put both in but every American car i > > have worked on has both...... > > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4009C887.890DCED0@junkmail.com... > > > No, a broken oil pressure switch will not prevent starting. The oil > > > pressure switch reports to the idiot light only. Besides, why would > > > there be an oil-pressure / starting interlock? There is no oil pressure > > > until after the engine is running anyway. > > > > > > > > > Ducky wrote: > > > > > > > > And yes a broken oil pressure switch will prevent starting. > > > > > > > > "John" <jchin92@dslextreme.com> wrote in message > > > > news:100jbrop44j9q57@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > I have a 95 Honda Civic EX (1.6L) that I just recovered after it was > > > > stolen > > > > > from me. The car has 142k miles and WAS in pretty good condition. > When > > I > > > > got > > > > > it back it was missing a distributor, a battery and a broken Oil > > pressure > > > > > switch and therefore the car would not start. > > > > > > > > > > So far I have: > > > > > 1. Replaced the battery > > > > > 2. Replaced the distributor (brand new from eBay) > > > > > 3. Replaced the starter (remanufactured) > > > > > > > > > > But the car still does not start ...... Any suggestions ??? > > > > > - Perhaps changing all four spark plugs and wires? > > > > > - Also would a broken oil pressure switch prevent the car from > > starting ? > > > > > - How about a faulty fuel pump? > > > > > - Replay perhaps > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any help greatly ! > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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