Honda/Toyota vs American
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Re: Honda/Toyota vs American
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <117pike9n52ru07@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
> <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:UqydnZ8-Vvj_s-3fRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > > Your kid bot a Cobalt? A first-year GM ANYTHING...let alone the
> > > bottom-of-the-line Chevy? A bad, bad, bet.
> >
> > GM has seemingly done a good job with the Cobalt from both an interior
and
> > exterior appearance standpoint. Pricing is right too. However, there's
> > nothing more frightening in the automotive industry than a first-year GM
> > product. Regardless of whether it is a sedan, pickup truck or SUV.
Cobalt
> > does have loads of potential though. The doors shut with the sound of
the
> > late 80s Mercedes-Benz products. Solid as can be. Overall, you can tell
that
> > GM has tried really, really hard with the Cobalt. It *should* be a
winner
> > for them if it doesn't have too many introductory year bugs that scare
> > people off for subsequent year purchases. I would even consider a Cobalt
> > myself as a daily commuter car after it has been in production for three
> > full years. It has plenty of room in it, should be good on fuel economy,
> > looks decent enough if cosmetics are your thing, and can be well
equipped if
> > you're willing to spring for the LT package. I have my eye on this one
as a
> > fourth vehicle to be used mainly for commuting back and forth to work.
It
> > definitely won't be a replacement for my 2002 Lexus IS300. I will always
> > have more confidence in the overall reliability of my Lexus, Honda and
> > Nissan products than I would a second or third year domestic. Wouldn't
> > matter to me if it were a GM, Ford OR Daimler-Chrysler product.
> >
> > Ron M.
>
> Ron,
> After driving a Lexus for several years, you will learn to really hate
> driving the Cobalt. I own a 99 Accord EX. I recently had to rent a small
> car that had almost none of the features that are in my 99 Accord. It did
> not even have a CD player. I was really glad when I was able to return it
> and start driving my Accord. You will probably feel the same way everytime
> you get back in your Lexus. The Cobalt will probably run very well for two
> or three years and at that point--things will start breaking down. I hope
> that I am wrong--but don't be surprised if it happened to the Cobalt.
> Jason
Hi Jason,
Thanks for the response--and I understand where you're coming from here.
Sometimes it's tough getting back into my 1990 Nissan 300ZX and driving
it after having driven my IS300 for a few days straight. You're right in
that
you do get spoiled to an upgraded vehicle. :-) I was hoping that maybe a
well-equipped Cobalt wouldn't be such an extreme letdown from the IS300,
but maybe it would be. I'd have to take a Cobalt on a long, long, LONG test
drive before purchasing one for a work commuter. The General hasn't gotten
my money yet. :-) At this point it's nothing more than a thought.
Take care and have a great weekend.\
Ron M.
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> In article <117pike9n52ru07@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
> <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
> > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:UqydnZ8-Vvj_s-3fRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > > Your kid bot a Cobalt? A first-year GM ANYTHING...let alone the
> > > bottom-of-the-line Chevy? A bad, bad, bet.
> >
> > GM has seemingly done a good job with the Cobalt from both an interior
and
> > exterior appearance standpoint. Pricing is right too. However, there's
> > nothing more frightening in the automotive industry than a first-year GM
> > product. Regardless of whether it is a sedan, pickup truck or SUV.
Cobalt
> > does have loads of potential though. The doors shut with the sound of
the
> > late 80s Mercedes-Benz products. Solid as can be. Overall, you can tell
that
> > GM has tried really, really hard with the Cobalt. It *should* be a
winner
> > for them if it doesn't have too many introductory year bugs that scare
> > people off for subsequent year purchases. I would even consider a Cobalt
> > myself as a daily commuter car after it has been in production for three
> > full years. It has plenty of room in it, should be good on fuel economy,
> > looks decent enough if cosmetics are your thing, and can be well
equipped if
> > you're willing to spring for the LT package. I have my eye on this one
as a
> > fourth vehicle to be used mainly for commuting back and forth to work.
It
> > definitely won't be a replacement for my 2002 Lexus IS300. I will always
> > have more confidence in the overall reliability of my Lexus, Honda and
> > Nissan products than I would a second or third year domestic. Wouldn't
> > matter to me if it were a GM, Ford OR Daimler-Chrysler product.
> >
> > Ron M.
>
> Ron,
> After driving a Lexus for several years, you will learn to really hate
> driving the Cobalt. I own a 99 Accord EX. I recently had to rent a small
> car that had almost none of the features that are in my 99 Accord. It did
> not even have a CD player. I was really glad when I was able to return it
> and start driving my Accord. You will probably feel the same way everytime
> you get back in your Lexus. The Cobalt will probably run very well for two
> or three years and at that point--things will start breaking down. I hope
> that I am wrong--but don't be surprised if it happened to the Cobalt.
> Jason
Hi Jason,
Thanks for the response--and I understand where you're coming from here.
Sometimes it's tough getting back into my 1990 Nissan 300ZX and driving
it after having driven my IS300 for a few days straight. You're right in
that
you do get spoiled to an upgraded vehicle. :-) I was hoping that maybe a
well-equipped Cobalt wouldn't be such an extreme letdown from the IS300,
but maybe it would be. I'd have to take a Cobalt on a long, long, LONG test
drive before purchasing one for a work commuter. The General hasn't gotten
my money yet. :-) At this point it's nothing more than a thought.
Take care and have a great weekend.\
Ron M.
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Re: Honda/Toyota vs American
In article <117q0eoji1shd01@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
<nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jason-0705050911190001@pm4-broad-39.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <117pike9n52ru07@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
> > <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:UqydnZ8-Vvj_s-3fRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > > > Your kid bot a Cobalt? A first-year GM ANYTHING...let alone the
> > > > bottom-of-the-line Chevy? A bad, bad, bet.
> > >
> > > GM has seemingly done a good job with the Cobalt from both an interior
> and
> > > exterior appearance standpoint. Pricing is right too. However, there's
> > > nothing more frightening in the automotive industry than a first-year GM
> > > product. Regardless of whether it is a sedan, pickup truck or SUV.
> Cobalt
> > > does have loads of potential though. The doors shut with the sound of
> the
> > > late 80s Mercedes-Benz products. Solid as can be. Overall, you can tell
> that
> > > GM has tried really, really hard with the Cobalt. It *should* be a
> winner
> > > for them if it doesn't have too many introductory year bugs that scare
> > > people off for subsequent year purchases. I would even consider a Cobalt
> > > myself as a daily commuter car after it has been in production for three
> > > full years. It has plenty of room in it, should be good on fuel economy,
> > > looks decent enough if cosmetics are your thing, and can be well
> equipped if
> > > you're willing to spring for the LT package. I have my eye on this one
> as a
> > > fourth vehicle to be used mainly for commuting back and forth to work.
> It
> > > definitely won't be a replacement for my 2002 Lexus IS300. I will always
> > > have more confidence in the overall reliability of my Lexus, Honda and
> > > Nissan products than I would a second or third year domestic. Wouldn't
> > > matter to me if it were a GM, Ford OR Daimler-Chrysler product.
> > >
> > > Ron M.
> >
> > Ron,
> > After driving a Lexus for several years, you will learn to really hate
> > driving the Cobalt. I own a 99 Accord EX. I recently had to rent a small
> > car that had almost none of the features that are in my 99 Accord. It did
> > not even have a CD player. I was really glad when I was able to return it
> > and start driving my Accord. You will probably feel the same way everytime
> > you get back in your Lexus. The Cobalt will probably run very well for two
> > or three years and at that point--things will start breaking down. I hope
> > that I am wrong--but don't be surprised if it happened to the Cobalt.
> > Jason
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thanks for the response--and I understand where you're coming from here.
> Sometimes it's tough getting back into my 1990 Nissan 300ZX and driving
> it after having driven my IS300 for a few days straight. You're right in
> that
> you do get spoiled to an upgraded vehicle. :-) I was hoping that maybe a
> well-equipped Cobalt wouldn't be such an extreme letdown from the IS300,
> but maybe it would be. I'd have to take a Cobalt on a long, long, LONG test
> drive before purchasing one for a work commuter. The General hasn't gotten
> my money yet. :-) At this point it's nothing more than a thought.
>
> Take care and have a great weekend.\
>
> Ron M.
If you do decide to get a Cobalt instead of Honda, make sure that it has
the most powerful engine that comes in a Cobalt. The small car that I
rented had a really small engine (1.5). It ran really well in the city but
when I went up a grade, I had to hold the gas pedal to the floor just to
keep up with the traffic. I never have had to that with my Honda Accord.
Jason
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> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jason-0705050911190001@pm4-broad-39.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <117pike9n52ru07@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
> > <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:UqydnZ8-Vvj_s-3fRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > > > Your kid bot a Cobalt? A first-year GM ANYTHING...let alone the
> > > > bottom-of-the-line Chevy? A bad, bad, bet.
> > >
> > > GM has seemingly done a good job with the Cobalt from both an interior
> and
> > > exterior appearance standpoint. Pricing is right too. However, there's
> > > nothing more frightening in the automotive industry than a first-year GM
> > > product. Regardless of whether it is a sedan, pickup truck or SUV.
> Cobalt
> > > does have loads of potential though. The doors shut with the sound of
> the
> > > late 80s Mercedes-Benz products. Solid as can be. Overall, you can tell
> that
> > > GM has tried really, really hard with the Cobalt. It *should* be a
> winner
> > > for them if it doesn't have too many introductory year bugs that scare
> > > people off for subsequent year purchases. I would even consider a Cobalt
> > > myself as a daily commuter car after it has been in production for three
> > > full years. It has plenty of room in it, should be good on fuel economy,
> > > looks decent enough if cosmetics are your thing, and can be well
> equipped if
> > > you're willing to spring for the LT package. I have my eye on this one
> as a
> > > fourth vehicle to be used mainly for commuting back and forth to work.
> It
> > > definitely won't be a replacement for my 2002 Lexus IS300. I will always
> > > have more confidence in the overall reliability of my Lexus, Honda and
> > > Nissan products than I would a second or third year domestic. Wouldn't
> > > matter to me if it were a GM, Ford OR Daimler-Chrysler product.
> > >
> > > Ron M.
> >
> > Ron,
> > After driving a Lexus for several years, you will learn to really hate
> > driving the Cobalt. I own a 99 Accord EX. I recently had to rent a small
> > car that had almost none of the features that are in my 99 Accord. It did
> > not even have a CD player. I was really glad when I was able to return it
> > and start driving my Accord. You will probably feel the same way everytime
> > you get back in your Lexus. The Cobalt will probably run very well for two
> > or three years and at that point--things will start breaking down. I hope
> > that I am wrong--but don't be surprised if it happened to the Cobalt.
> > Jason
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thanks for the response--and I understand where you're coming from here.
> Sometimes it's tough getting back into my 1990 Nissan 300ZX and driving
> it after having driven my IS300 for a few days straight. You're right in
> that
> you do get spoiled to an upgraded vehicle. :-) I was hoping that maybe a
> well-equipped Cobalt wouldn't be such an extreme letdown from the IS300,
> but maybe it would be. I'd have to take a Cobalt on a long, long, LONG test
> drive before purchasing one for a work commuter. The General hasn't gotten
> my money yet. :-) At this point it's nothing more than a thought.
>
> Take care and have a great weekend.\
>
> Ron M.
If you do decide to get a Cobalt instead of Honda, make sure that it has
the most powerful engine that comes in a Cobalt. The small car that I
rented had a really small engine (1.5). It ran really well in the city but
when I went up a grade, I had to hold the gas pedal to the floor just to
keep up with the traffic. I never have had to that with my Honda Accord.
Jason
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Re: Honda/Toyota vs American
In article <117q0eoji1shd01@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
<nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jason-0705050911190001@pm4-broad-39.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <117pike9n52ru07@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
> > <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:UqydnZ8-Vvj_s-3fRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > > > Your kid bot a Cobalt? A first-year GM ANYTHING...let alone the
> > > > bottom-of-the-line Chevy? A bad, bad, bet.
> > >
> > > GM has seemingly done a good job with the Cobalt from both an interior
> and
> > > exterior appearance standpoint. Pricing is right too. However, there's
> > > nothing more frightening in the automotive industry than a first-year GM
> > > product. Regardless of whether it is a sedan, pickup truck or SUV.
> Cobalt
> > > does have loads of potential though. The doors shut with the sound of
> the
> > > late 80s Mercedes-Benz products. Solid as can be. Overall, you can tell
> that
> > > GM has tried really, really hard with the Cobalt. It *should* be a
> winner
> > > for them if it doesn't have too many introductory year bugs that scare
> > > people off for subsequent year purchases. I would even consider a Cobalt
> > > myself as a daily commuter car after it has been in production for three
> > > full years. It has plenty of room in it, should be good on fuel economy,
> > > looks decent enough if cosmetics are your thing, and can be well
> equipped if
> > > you're willing to spring for the LT package. I have my eye on this one
> as a
> > > fourth vehicle to be used mainly for commuting back and forth to work.
> It
> > > definitely won't be a replacement for my 2002 Lexus IS300. I will always
> > > have more confidence in the overall reliability of my Lexus, Honda and
> > > Nissan products than I would a second or third year domestic. Wouldn't
> > > matter to me if it were a GM, Ford OR Daimler-Chrysler product.
> > >
> > > Ron M.
> >
> > Ron,
> > After driving a Lexus for several years, you will learn to really hate
> > driving the Cobalt. I own a 99 Accord EX. I recently had to rent a small
> > car that had almost none of the features that are in my 99 Accord. It did
> > not even have a CD player. I was really glad when I was able to return it
> > and start driving my Accord. You will probably feel the same way everytime
> > you get back in your Lexus. The Cobalt will probably run very well for two
> > or three years and at that point--things will start breaking down. I hope
> > that I am wrong--but don't be surprised if it happened to the Cobalt.
> > Jason
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thanks for the response--and I understand where you're coming from here.
> Sometimes it's tough getting back into my 1990 Nissan 300ZX and driving
> it after having driven my IS300 for a few days straight. You're right in
> that
> you do get spoiled to an upgraded vehicle. :-) I was hoping that maybe a
> well-equipped Cobalt wouldn't be such an extreme letdown from the IS300,
> but maybe it would be. I'd have to take a Cobalt on a long, long, LONG test
> drive before purchasing one for a work commuter. The General hasn't gotten
> my money yet. :-) At this point it's nothing more than a thought.
>
> Take care and have a great weekend.\
>
> Ron M.
If you do decide to get a Cobalt instead of Honda, make sure that it has
the most powerful engine that comes in a Cobalt. The small car that I
rented had a really small engine (1.5). It ran really well in the city but
when I went up a grade, I had to hold the gas pedal to the floor just to
keep up with the traffic. I never have had to that with my Honda Accord.
Jason
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<nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:jason-0705050911190001@pm4-broad-39.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <117pike9n52ru07@corp.supernews.com>, "Ron M."
> > <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:UqydnZ8-Vvj_s-3fRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > > > Your kid bot a Cobalt? A first-year GM ANYTHING...let alone the
> > > > bottom-of-the-line Chevy? A bad, bad, bet.
> > >
> > > GM has seemingly done a good job with the Cobalt from both an interior
> and
> > > exterior appearance standpoint. Pricing is right too. However, there's
> > > nothing more frightening in the automotive industry than a first-year GM
> > > product. Regardless of whether it is a sedan, pickup truck or SUV.
> Cobalt
> > > does have loads of potential though. The doors shut with the sound of
> the
> > > late 80s Mercedes-Benz products. Solid as can be. Overall, you can tell
> that
> > > GM has tried really, really hard with the Cobalt. It *should* be a
> winner
> > > for them if it doesn't have too many introductory year bugs that scare
> > > people off for subsequent year purchases. I would even consider a Cobalt
> > > myself as a daily commuter car after it has been in production for three
> > > full years. It has plenty of room in it, should be good on fuel economy,
> > > looks decent enough if cosmetics are your thing, and can be well
> equipped if
> > > you're willing to spring for the LT package. I have my eye on this one
> as a
> > > fourth vehicle to be used mainly for commuting back and forth to work.
> It
> > > definitely won't be a replacement for my 2002 Lexus IS300. I will always
> > > have more confidence in the overall reliability of my Lexus, Honda and
> > > Nissan products than I would a second or third year domestic. Wouldn't
> > > matter to me if it were a GM, Ford OR Daimler-Chrysler product.
> > >
> > > Ron M.
> >
> > Ron,
> > After driving a Lexus for several years, you will learn to really hate
> > driving the Cobalt. I own a 99 Accord EX. I recently had to rent a small
> > car that had almost none of the features that are in my 99 Accord. It did
> > not even have a CD player. I was really glad when I was able to return it
> > and start driving my Accord. You will probably feel the same way everytime
> > you get back in your Lexus. The Cobalt will probably run very well for two
> > or three years and at that point--things will start breaking down. I hope
> > that I am wrong--but don't be surprised if it happened to the Cobalt.
> > Jason
>
> Hi Jason,
>
> Thanks for the response--and I understand where you're coming from here.
> Sometimes it's tough getting back into my 1990 Nissan 300ZX and driving
> it after having driven my IS300 for a few days straight. You're right in
> that
> you do get spoiled to an upgraded vehicle. :-) I was hoping that maybe a
> well-equipped Cobalt wouldn't be such an extreme letdown from the IS300,
> but maybe it would be. I'd have to take a Cobalt on a long, long, LONG test
> drive before purchasing one for a work commuter. The General hasn't gotten
> my money yet. :-) At this point it's nothing more than a thought.
>
> Take care and have a great weekend.\
>
> Ron M.
If you do decide to get a Cobalt instead of Honda, make sure that it has
the most powerful engine that comes in a Cobalt. The small car that I
rented had a really small engine (1.5). It ran really well in the city but
when I went up a grade, I had to hold the gas pedal to the floor just to
keep up with the traffic. I never have had to that with my Honda Accord.
Jason
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