Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

agree get a honda
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Audi, isn't that a Volkswagen, terrible reliability.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:clpke.23130$CR5.18828@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> > Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm
retired
> > and
> >> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> > cost
> >> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
> > also.
> >> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which
is
> >> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Hank WD5JFR
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

agree get a honda
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Audi, isn't that a Volkswagen, terrible reliability.
>
> Tom
>
>
> "ja" <__jame_sayton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:clpke.23130$CR5.18828@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> > Check out the Audi A6. Very reliable and a thrill to drive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:w3mke.500$TJ2.5@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm
retired
> > and
> >> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low
> > cost
> >> maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old
> > also.
> >> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which
is
> >> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Hank WD5JFR
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

In article <6vKdnX_Oy7O_Aw_fRVn-rA@speakeasy.net>,
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> > In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> > car. That's from direct experience.
>
> most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
> parts extensively. focus, cavalier...

Cavalier? Nope. Pure American.

But I wasn't thinking Focus when I was thinking Ford.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

In article <6vKdnX_Oy7O_Aw_fRVn-rA@speakeasy.net>,
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> > In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
> > car. That's from direct experience.
>
> most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
> parts extensively. focus, cavalier...

Cavalier? Nope. Pure American.

But I wasn't thinking Focus when I was thinking Ford.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <6vKdnX_Oy7O_Aw_fRVn-rA@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
>>>car. That's from direct experience.
>>
>>most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
>>parts extensively. focus, cavalier...
>
>
> Cavalier? Nope. Pure American.

nope, pure german. may be assembled here, but i assure you, it wasn't
designed here. checking out opel.de gives you an idea of how much gm
europe has invested in an entirely euro product range, some of which
finds its way here.

>
> But I wasn't thinking Focus when I was thinking Ford.

true, not the first to come to mind, but there's a number of euro fords
sold here - essentially all the small ones.

fwiw, the dodge stratus was/is german too, even before chrysler was
bought by daimler.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <6vKdnX_Oy7O_Aw_fRVn-rA@speakeasy.net>,
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>In fact, I'd buy a Chevy or a Ford long, long before I'd buy a German
>>>car. That's from direct experience.
>>
>>most of the small fords & chevy's are designed in germany & use german
>>parts extensively. focus, cavalier...
>
>
> Cavalier? Nope. Pure American.

nope, pure german. may be assembled here, but i assure you, it wasn't
designed here. checking out opel.de gives you an idea of how much gm
europe has invested in an entirely euro product range, some of which
finds its way here.

>
> But I wasn't thinking Focus when I was thinking Ford.

true, not the first to come to mind, but there's a number of euro fords
sold here - essentially all the small ones.

fwiw, the dodge stratus was/is german too, even before chrysler was
bought by daimler.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:49:00 GMT, "Henry Kolesnik"
<kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired and
>need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low cost
>maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old also.
>I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?

I'd give the camry a miss. Friends got an 05, in 6 months, its had a
headlight unit replaced, been in 3 times with the airbags, another
time with the ABS, paints already chipping, because of rust
underneith. This car is about 6 months old, and in georgia. hardly
salt+spray central.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:49:00 GMT, "Henry Kolesnik"
<kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars. I'm retired and
>need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low cost
>maintenance and initial cost. I would consider a year or two year old also.
>I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?

I'd give the camry a miss. Friends got an 05, in 6 months, its had a
headlight unit replaced, been in 3 times with the airbags, another
time with the ABS, paints already chipping, because of rust
underneith. This car is about 6 months old, and in georgia. hardly
salt+spray central.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

Henry Kolesnik wrote:
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars.

I agree.

The same companies make Acura & Lexus so consider them also.

> I'm retired and
> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low cost
> maintenance and initial cost.

These will be higher initial cost. Much lower on Excedrin bills later.

> I would consider a year or two year old also.

Yes, get used - even older - and save on initial cost.

> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>

My first choice is either brand if the serial number starts with a "J".

After that, I'd prefer a timing chain over a timing belt.

Certain Toyota engines can burn oil and some get lower gas mileage than Honda, but other than that, Toyotas are better built and last longer IMHO.

Good luck.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

Henry Kolesnik wrote:
> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars.

I agree.

The same companies make Acura & Lexus so consider them also.

> I'm retired and
> need to get a good four door and my main concerns are reliabliity, low cost
> maintenance and initial cost.

These will be higher initial cost. Much lower on Excedrin bills later.

> I would consider a year or two year old also.

Yes, get used - even older - and save on initial cost.

> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>

My first choice is either brand if the serial number starts with a "J".

After that, I'd prefer a timing chain over a timing belt.

Certain Toyota engines can burn oil and some get lower gas mileage than Honda, but other than that, Toyotas are better built and last longer IMHO.

Good luck.

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

toyotas are junk. get a honda they have higher resale value. you won't be
disappointed.



-jeff
"Martin Yanagisawa" <nospam@nospam.edu> wrote in message
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> Henry Kolesnik wrote:
>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars.
>
> I agree.
>
> The same companies make Acura & Lexus so consider them also.
>
>> I'm retired and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are
>> reliabliity, low cost maintenance and initial cost.
>
> These will be higher initial cost. Much lower on Excedrin bills later.
>
>> I would consider a year or two year old also.
>
> Yes, get used - even older - and save on initial cost.
>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>
>
> My first choice is either brand if the serial number starts with a "J".
>
> After that, I'd prefer a timing chain over a timing belt.
>
> Certain Toyota engines can burn oil and some get lower gas mileage than
> Honda, but other than that, Toyotas are better built and last longer IMHO.
> Good luck.
>
>

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

toyotas are junk. get a honda they have higher resale value. you won't be
disappointed.



-jeff
"Martin Yanagisawa" <nospam@nospam.edu> wrote in message
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> Henry Kolesnik wrote:
>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars.
>
> I agree.
>
> The same companies make Acura & Lexus so consider them also.
>
>> I'm retired and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are
>> reliabliity, low cost maintenance and initial cost.
>
> These will be higher initial cost. Much lower on Excedrin bills later.
>
>> I would consider a year or two year old also.
>
> Yes, get used - even older - and save on initial cost.
>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which is
>> better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>
>
> My first choice is either brand if the serial number starts with a "J".
>
> After that, I'd prefer a timing chain over a timing belt.
>
> Certain Toyota engines can burn oil and some get lower gas mileage than
> Honda, but other than that, Toyotas are better built and last longer IMHO.
> Good luck.
>
>

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

We have been very happy with both Toyotas and Hondas. Our current Toyota is
a 2002 Prius and is in very strong demand on the used market, leading to
used Prius cars sometimes selling for more than they cost originally.

Mike

"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> toyotas are junk. get a honda they have higher resale value. you won't be
> disappointed.
>
>
>
> -jeff
> "Martin Yanagisawa" <nospam@nospam.edu> wrote in message
> news:O-2dnTuWBr2hfw7fRVn-oA@rcn.net...
>> Henry Kolesnik wrote:
>>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> The same companies make Acura & Lexus so consider them also.
>>
>>> I'm retired and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are
>>> reliabliity, low cost maintenance and initial cost.
>>
>> These will be higher initial cost. Much lower on Excedrin bills later.
>>
>>> I would consider a year or two year old also.
>>
>> Yes, get used - even older - and save on initial cost.
>>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which
>>> is better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>>
>>
>> My first choice is either brand if the serial number starts with a "J".
>>
>> After that, I'd prefer a timing chain over a timing belt.
>>
>> Certain Toyota engines can burn oil and some get lower gas mileage than
>> Honda, but other than that, Toyotas are better built and last longer
>> IMHO.
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

We have been very happy with both Toyotas and Hondas. Our current Toyota is
a 2002 Prius and is in very strong demand on the used market, leading to
used Prius cars sometimes selling for more than they cost originally.

Mike

"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> toyotas are junk. get a honda they have higher resale value. you won't be
> disappointed.
>
>
>
> -jeff
> "Martin Yanagisawa" <nospam@nospam.edu> wrote in message
> news:O-2dnTuWBr2hfw7fRVn-oA@rcn.net...
>> Henry Kolesnik wrote:
>>> It seems to me like these two companies make the best cars.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> The same companies make Acura & Lexus so consider them also.
>>
>>> I'm retired and need to get a good four door and my main concerns are
>>> reliabliity, low cost maintenance and initial cost.
>>
>> These will be higher initial cost. Much lower on Excedrin bills later.
>>
>>> I would consider a year or two year old also.
>>
>> Yes, get used - even older - and save on initial cost.
>>> I hear of Honda Civics going to 300,000 miles with few problems. Which
>>> is better, the Accord or the Camry or did I miss one?
>>>
>>
>> My first choice is either brand if the serial number starts with a "J".
>>
>> After that, I'd prefer a timing chain over a timing belt.
>>
>> Certain Toyota engines can burn oil and some get lower gas mileage than
>> Honda, but other than that, Toyotas are better built and last longer
>> IMHO.
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Honda vs Toyota ??
 

In article <0xOle.2286$uu.243@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
"hondaman" <jeffscomp@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> toyotas are junk. get a honda they have higher resale value.

um, no and no...