Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

garyj wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
>
> Any ideas what is wrong?
=====================

Gary,

Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.

Let us know how you make out with your problem.

"Curly'

====================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be
using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the
spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to
depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all
that is needed.

CaptainKrunch

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> garyj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> >
> > Any ideas what is wrong?
> =====================
>
> Gary,
>
> Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
>
> Let us know how you make out with your problem.
>
> "Curly'
>
> ====================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be
using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the
spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to
depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all
that is needed.

CaptainKrunch

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> garyj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> >
> > Any ideas what is wrong?
> =====================
>
> Gary,
>
> Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
>
> Let us know how you make out with your problem.
>
> "Curly'
>
> ====================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be
using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the
spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to
depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all
that is needed.

CaptainKrunch

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> garyj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> >
> > Any ideas what is wrong?
> =====================
>
> Gary,
>
> Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
>
> Let us know how you make out with your problem.
>
> "Curly'
>
> ====================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com...

There is no reason to
> depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
> hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
> the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded.

Shuts off the injectors? Eh?
I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start
without injectors?
So, a floored FI car can _not_ start.

I learn something new everyday.

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com...

There is no reason to
> depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
> hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
> the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded.

Shuts off the injectors? Eh?
I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start
without injectors?
So, a floored FI car can _not_ start.

I learn something new everyday.

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com...

There is no reason to
> depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
> hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
> the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded.

Shuts off the injectors? Eh?
I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start
without injectors?
So, a floored FI car can _not_ start.

I learn something new everyday.

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

assuming you don't have a floor mat in the way. And then again I don't want
to put my foot in my mouth by saying all cars but I would bet money that the
majority are like that.

I imagine it has to be that way to help if an engine with EFI got flooded,
if for some reason the engine wasn't starting and fuel was pumping into the
engine.



CaptainKrunch







"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tskKb.152$AJB.26@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com...
>
> "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>
> There is no reason to
> > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless
you
> > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to
clear
> > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded.
>
> Shuts off the injectors? Eh?
> I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start
> without injectors?
> So, a floored FI car can _not_ start.
>
> I learn something new everyday.
>
>

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

assuming you don't have a floor mat in the way. And then again I don't want
to put my foot in my mouth by saying all cars but I would bet money that the
majority are like that.

I imagine it has to be that way to help if an engine with EFI got flooded,
if for some reason the engine wasn't starting and fuel was pumping into the
engine.



CaptainKrunch







"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tskKb.152$AJB.26@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com...
>
> "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>
> There is no reason to
> > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless
you
> > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to
clear
> > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded.
>
> Shuts off the injectors? Eh?
> I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start
> without injectors?
> So, a floored FI car can _not_ start.
>
> I learn something new everyday.
>
>

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

assuming you don't have a floor mat in the way. And then again I don't want
to put my foot in my mouth by saying all cars but I would bet money that the
majority are like that.

I imagine it has to be that way to help if an engine with EFI got flooded,
if for some reason the engine wasn't starting and fuel was pumping into the
engine.



CaptainKrunch







"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tskKb.152$AJB.26@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.ro gers.com...
>
> "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>
> There is no reason to
> > depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless
you
> > hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to
clear
> > the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded.
>
> Shuts off the injectors? Eh?
> I floor the pedal, the injectors are shut off....certainly it won't start
> without injectors?
> So, a floored FI car can _not_ start.
>
> I learn something new everyday.
>
>

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

CaptainKrunch wrote:
>
> I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
> temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be
> using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the
> spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to
> depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
> hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
> the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all
> that is needed.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > garyj wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
> recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
> turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
> both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
> dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > =====================
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> >
> > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> >
> > "Curly'
> >
> > ====================

Captain,
READ THE WHOLE THREAD--

Our Odyssey is sitting, unused, so oil didn't get changed to 'winter
oil'.
The manual says, in COLD weather, to push pedal half way to floor.
(engine needs air)
I suggested his Odyssey might be flooded if it doesn't fire at all
(which was happening to ours because of a leaky injector)
Good point about 'all the way to the floor'
Maybe he's gone over to Odyclub to shop around for better answers.

'Curly'

====================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

CaptainKrunch wrote:
>
> I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
> temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be
> using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the
> spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to
> depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
> hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
> the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all
> that is needed.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > garyj wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
> recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
> turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
> both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
> dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > =====================
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> >
> > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> >
> > "Curly'
> >
> > ====================

Captain,
READ THE WHOLE THREAD--

Our Odyssey is sitting, unused, so oil didn't get changed to 'winter
oil'.
The manual says, in COLD weather, to push pedal half way to floor.
(engine needs air)
I suggested his Odyssey might be flooded if it doesn't fire at all
(which was happening to ours because of a leaky injector)
Good point about 'all the way to the floor'
Maybe he's gone over to Odyclub to shop around for better answers.

'Curly'

====================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

CaptainKrunch wrote:
>
> I would start by using synthetic oil and of the proper weight given the
> temperatures. I use synthetic all the time but most assuredly I would be
> using it with those kinds of temperatures. I am sure that will help the
> spin speed of the engine and help it to start. There is no reason to
> depress the accelerator pedal at all on a fuel injected vehicle unless you
> hold it all the way down, which shuts off the injectors and helps to clear
> the engine of extra fuel if it gets flooded. Turning the key should be all
> that is needed.
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > garyj wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
> recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
> turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
> both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
> dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > =====================
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> >
> > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> >
> > "Curly'
> >
> > ====================

Captain,
READ THE WHOLE THREAD--

Our Odyssey is sitting, unused, so oil didn't get changed to 'winter
oil'.
The manual says, in COLD weather, to push pedal half way to floor.
(engine needs air)
I suggested his Odyssey might be flooded if it doesn't fire at all
(which was happening to ours because of a leaky injector)
Good point about 'all the way to the floor'
Maybe he's gone over to Odyclub to shop around for better answers.

'Curly'

====================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
<nothing@nobody.com> wrote:

> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > garyj wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
> recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
> turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
> both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
> dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > =====================
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> >
> > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> >
> > "Curly'
> >
> > ====================

Curly,
I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
something like this:
Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
<nothing@nobody.com> wrote:

> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > garyj wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it until
> recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't start. It
> turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel or
> both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine. When is
> dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > >
> > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > =====================
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part of
> > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> >
> > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> >
> > "Curly'
> >
> > ====================

Curly,
I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
something like this:
Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?