Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

No, no choke. The choke on carbureted cars was a valve (looking like a
throttle valve) that restricted the air flow upstream of the venturi,
thereby causing a richer fuel/air mixture for easier cold starts. On
fuel injected cars the mixture enrichment is accomplished by simply
squirting more fuel with the injectors when the engine is cold (as
indicated by the engine coolant temperature sensor).

bearman wrote:
>
> Do fuel injected Honda Odysseys have an automatic choke? Or any kind of
> choke?
>
> "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tomwilson-0601040958500001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
> > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > > > garyj wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it
> until
> > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't
> start. It
> > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel
> or
> > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine.
> When is
> > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > > > =====================
> > > >
> > > > Gary,
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part
> of
> > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> > > >
> > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> > > >
> > > > "Curly'
> > > >
> > > > ====================
> >
> > Curly,
> > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
> > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
> > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
> > something like this:
> > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
> > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
> > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
> > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
> > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

No, no choke. The choke on carbureted cars was a valve (looking like a
throttle valve) that restricted the air flow upstream of the venturi,
thereby causing a richer fuel/air mixture for easier cold starts. On
fuel injected cars the mixture enrichment is accomplished by simply
squirting more fuel with the injectors when the engine is cold (as
indicated by the engine coolant temperature sensor).

bearman wrote:
>
> Do fuel injected Honda Odysseys have an automatic choke? Or any kind of
> choke?
>
> "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tomwilson-0601040958500001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
> > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > > > garyj wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it
> until
> > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't
> start. It
> > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel
> or
> > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine.
> When is
> > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > > > =====================
> > > >
> > > > Gary,
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part
> of
> > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> > > >
> > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> > > >
> > > > "Curly'
> > > >
> > > > ====================
> >
> > Curly,
> > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
> > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
> > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
> > something like this:
> > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
> > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
> > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
> > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
> > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

No, no choke. The choke on carbureted cars was a valve (looking like a
throttle valve) that restricted the air flow upstream of the venturi,
thereby causing a richer fuel/air mixture for easier cold starts. On
fuel injected cars the mixture enrichment is accomplished by simply
squirting more fuel with the injectors when the engine is cold (as
indicated by the engine coolant temperature sensor).

bearman wrote:
>
> Do fuel injected Honda Odysseys have an automatic choke? Or any kind of
> choke?
>
> "Tom Wilson" <tomwilson@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tomwilson-0601040958500001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> > In article <E46dnR69O8iWTWSiRVn-uA@comcast.com>, "CaptainKrunch"
> > <nothing@nobody.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FF99DA8.E3534679@interbaun.com...
> > > > garyj wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2000 Honda Odyssey. I have never had any trouble with it
> until
> > > recently when the weather went below freezing and the car wouldn't
> start. It
> > > turns over just fine but no cylinders fire at all: like no spark or fuel
> or
> > > both. When the weather gets above freezing it then starts just fine.
> When is
> > > dropps below freezing, it turns over but won't start. All the spark plug
> > > wires seem to be hidden, and I don't smell any fuel from exhaust.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas what is wrong?
> > > > =====================
> > > >
> > > > Gary,
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday is was -16.6F (-27c) here in Edmonton. Our '95 Odyssey is
> > > > sitting outside, not plugged in. I had to move it to a different part
> of
> > > > the driveway while we shovelled some snow. It started OK, but the
> > > > cranking was a bit slow because it has 10w-30 oil in it. We're not
> > > > driving it this winter so the oil didn't get changed over to 5w-30. I
> > > > was careful to listen to the fuel pump while checking the instrument
> > > > lights. I also held the gas pedal half way to the floor.
> > > >
> > > > Let us know how you make out with your problem.
> > > >
> > > > "Curly'
> > > >
> > > > ====================
> >
> > Curly,
> > I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
> > choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
> > an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
> > something like this:
> > Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
> > way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
> > way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
> > automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
> > system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> Curly,
> I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
> choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
> an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
> something like this:
> Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
> way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
> way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
> automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
> system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

=====================
Tom,

A 2000 Odyssey is fuel injected v-6... No carb, no choke.

You need to obtain an owner's manual and read it completely.

Honda block heaters screw into the side of the engine and heat the
coolant just the same way an electric kettle or coffee pot heats water.
They're around 300 watts, I think, and the Canadian Government has
determined that plugging you car in for more than three hours is a
waste of electricity. For really cold situations, there are delay timers
that will turn you block heater on a couple of hours before you leave in
the A.M., or you can just switch the circuit breaker on when you get out
of bed...

They're pretty much mandatory on the Canadian Prairies. The little power
cord hangs out of the lower grille, and plugs into household current.
People in warmer climes just can't believe we plug our cars in 'juzz
like a waffle iron' :-)

I don't presently have one, but electric 'battery blankets' are neat.
They're just like a skinny, 3 foot long electric heating blanket, with a
waterproof plastic skin on the outside. The wattage is very low, maybe
100 watts, and they go all the way around the battery to keep it near
room temperature. Big help if it's minus 40 and you have access to a
plugin.

'Curly'

======================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> Curly,
> I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
> choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
> an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
> something like this:
> Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
> way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
> way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
> automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
> system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

=====================
Tom,

A 2000 Odyssey is fuel injected v-6... No carb, no choke.

You need to obtain an owner's manual and read it completely.

Honda block heaters screw into the side of the engine and heat the
coolant just the same way an electric kettle or coffee pot heats water.
They're around 300 watts, I think, and the Canadian Government has
determined that plugging you car in for more than three hours is a
waste of electricity. For really cold situations, there are delay timers
that will turn you block heater on a couple of hours before you leave in
the A.M., or you can just switch the circuit breaker on when you get out
of bed...

They're pretty much mandatory on the Canadian Prairies. The little power
cord hangs out of the lower grille, and plugs into household current.
People in warmer climes just can't believe we plug our cars in 'juzz
like a waffle iron' :-)

I don't presently have one, but electric 'battery blankets' are neat.
They're just like a skinny, 3 foot long electric heating blanket, with a
waterproof plastic skin on the outside. The wattage is very low, maybe
100 watts, and they go all the way around the battery to keep it near
room temperature. Big help if it's minus 40 and you have access to a
plugin.

'Curly'

======================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> Curly,
> I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
> choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
> an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
> something like this:
> Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
> way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
> way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
> automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
> system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

=====================
Tom,

A 2000 Odyssey is fuel injected v-6... No carb, no choke.

You need to obtain an owner's manual and read it completely.

Honda block heaters screw into the side of the engine and heat the
coolant just the same way an electric kettle or coffee pot heats water.
They're around 300 watts, I think, and the Canadian Government has
determined that plugging you car in for more than three hours is a
waste of electricity. For really cold situations, there are delay timers
that will turn you block heater on a couple of hours before you leave in
the A.M., or you can just switch the circuit breaker on when you get out
of bed...

They're pretty much mandatory on the Canadian Prairies. The little power
cord hangs out of the lower grille, and plugs into household current.
People in warmer climes just can't believe we plug our cars in 'juzz
like a waffle iron' :-)

I don't presently have one, but electric 'battery blankets' are neat.
They're just like a skinny, 3 foot long electric heating blanket, with a
waterproof plastic skin on the outside. The wattage is very low, maybe
100 watts, and they go all the way around the battery to keep it near
room temperature. Big help if it's minus 40 and you have access to a
plugin.

'Curly'

======================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> Curly,
> I have a question for you. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have an automatic
> choke system. I do recall that my prior car--a 1993 Honda Accord EX--had
> an automatic choke and I seem to recall that the owner's manual said
> something like this:
> Prior to starting the car on cold mornings, press the gas petal all of the
> way to the floor and then release it. After that--start the car the normal
> way. The manual went on to say that this was the method of activating the
> automatic choke. Does the 2000 Honda Odyssey have the same type of choke
> system as my old 1993 Honda Accord EX?

=====================
Tom,

A 2000 Odyssey is fuel injected v-6... No carb, no choke.

You need to obtain an owner's manual and read it completely.

Honda block heaters screw into the side of the engine and heat the
coolant just the same way an electric kettle or coffee pot heats water.
They're around 300 watts, I think, and the Canadian Government has
determined that plugging you car in for more than three hours is a
waste of electricity. For really cold situations, there are delay timers
that will turn you block heater on a couple of hours before you leave in
the A.M., or you can just switch the circuit breaker on when you get out
of bed...

They're pretty much mandatory on the Canadian Prairies. The little power
cord hangs out of the lower grille, and plugs into household current.
People in warmer climes just can't believe we plug our cars in 'juzz
like a waffle iron' :-)

I don't presently have one, but electric 'battery blankets' are neat.
They're just like a skinny, 3 foot long electric heating blanket, with a
waterproof plastic skin on the outside. The wattage is very low, maybe
100 watts, and they go all the way around the battery to keep it near
room temperature. Big help if it's minus 40 and you have access to a
plugin.

'Curly'

======================

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
*anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
Dan

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
*anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
Dan

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
*anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
Dan

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
*anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
Dan

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

In article <0mjpvv01feimt02mp0agm49vj6g39ctoge@4ax.com>, Dan Knaus
<knaus@norfolk.infi.net> wrote:

> Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
> it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
> *anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
> the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
> was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
> course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
> Dan

Great post--I never would have guessed that replacing a fuel filter could
solve cold weather start up problems. You have a great mechanic.

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

In article <0mjpvv01feimt02mp0agm49vj6g39ctoge@4ax.com>, Dan Knaus
<knaus@norfolk.infi.net> wrote:

> Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
> it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
> *anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
> the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
> was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
> course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
> Dan

Great post--I never would have guessed that replacing a fuel filter could
solve cold weather start up problems. You have a great mechanic.

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

In article <0mjpvv01feimt02mp0agm49vj6g39ctoge@4ax.com>, Dan Knaus
<knaus@norfolk.infi.net> wrote:

> Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
> it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
> *anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
> the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
> was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
> course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
> Dan

Great post--I never would have guessed that replacing a fuel filter could
solve cold weather start up problems. You have a great mechanic.

Re: Honda won't start in cold (below freezing) weather
 

In article <0mjpvv01feimt02mp0agm49vj6g39ctoge@4ax.com>, Dan Knaus
<knaus@norfolk.infi.net> wrote:

> Just a thought, but I had a similar problem with my '87 CRX SI. Took
> it to the shop, they couldn't find anything wrong (didn't charge me
> *anything* either - insert plug for DR Honda in Chesapeake, VA), but
> the mechanic did suggest there could be water in the fuel filter that
> was freezing up. I changed the filter and haven't had a problem. Of
> course, it hasn't gotten that cold yet this year, but I'll soon see...
> Dan

Great post--I never would have guessed that replacing a fuel filter could
solve cold weather start up problems. You have a great mechanic.