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Bernard Felix 01-17-2004 11:45 PM

How is the Element?
 
I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like
to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but I
wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are you
happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
Thanks!
BJ



Artfulcodger 01-17-2004 11:58 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like
> to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but

I
> wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

you
> happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> Thanks!
> BJ



Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size
adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan
to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.

Mike
>
>




Artfulcodger 01-17-2004 11:58 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like
> to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but

I
> wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

you
> happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> Thanks!
> BJ



Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size
adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan
to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.

Mike
>
>




Artfulcodger 01-17-2004 11:58 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like
> to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but

I
> wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

you
> happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> Thanks!
> BJ



Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size
adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan
to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.

Mike
>
>




Artfulcodger 01-17-2004 11:58 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would like
> to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element, but

I
> wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

you
> happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> Thanks!
> BJ



Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good size
adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not plan
to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.

Mike
>
>




Sean Donaher 01-18-2004 04:23 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
>
> "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

like
> > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

but
> I
> > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

> you
> > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> > Thanks!
> > BJ

>
>
> Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

size
> adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

plan
> to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
>
> Mike
> >
> >


600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element?




Sean Donaher 01-18-2004 04:23 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
>
> "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

like
> > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

but
> I
> > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

> you
> > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> > Thanks!
> > BJ

>
>
> Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

size
> adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

plan
> to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
>
> Mike
> >
> >


600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element?




Sean Donaher 01-18-2004 04:23 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
>
> "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

like
> > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

but
> I
> > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

> you
> > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> > Thanks!
> > BJ

>
>
> Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

size
> adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

plan
> to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
>
> Mike
> >
> >


600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element?




Sean Donaher 01-18-2004 04:23 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 
"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
>
> "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

like
> > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

but
> I
> > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad (are

> you
> > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few months.
> > Thanks!
> > BJ

>
>
> Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

size
> adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

plan
> to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
>
> Mike
> >
> >


600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an Element?




Artfulcodger 01-18-2004 09:08 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
> >
> > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

> like
> > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

> but
> > I
> > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad

(are
> > you
> > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few

months.
> > > Thanks!
> > > BJ

> >
> >
> > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

> size
> > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

> plan
> > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
> >
> > Mike
> > >
> > >

>
> 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
> limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an

Element?
>
>
>


Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs.
Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up
in the Element idea.



Artfulcodger 01-18-2004 09:08 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
> >
> > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

> like
> > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

> but
> > I
> > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad

(are
> > you
> > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few

months.
> > > Thanks!
> > > BJ

> >
> >
> > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

> size
> > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

> plan
> > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
> >
> > Mike
> > >
> > >

>
> 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
> limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an

Element?
>
>
>


Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs.
Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up
in the Element idea.



Artfulcodger 01-18-2004 09:08 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
> >
> > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

> like
> > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

> but
> > I
> > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad

(are
> > you
> > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few

months.
> > > Thanks!
> > > BJ

> >
> >
> > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

> size
> > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

> plan
> > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
> >
> > Mike
> > >
> > >

>
> 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
> limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an

Element?
>
>
>


Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs.
Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up
in the Element idea.



Artfulcodger 01-18-2004 09:08 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
> >
> > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I would

> like
> > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the Element,

> but
> > I
> > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad

(are
> > you
> > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few

months.
> > > Thanks!
> > > BJ

> >
> >
> > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two good

> size
> > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

> plan
> > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
> >
> > Mike
> > >
> > >

>
> 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a payload
> limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an

Element?
>
>
>


Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs.
Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up
in the Element idea.



Sean Donaher 01-18-2004 10:07 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
>
> "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I

would
> > like
> > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the

Element,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad

> (are
> > > you
> > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few

> months.
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > BJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two

good
> > size
> > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

> > plan
> > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a

payload
> > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an

> Element?
> >
> >
> >

>
> Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs.
> Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up
> in the Element idea.
>
>


I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you
what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003
Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was
actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and
trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off
to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM
and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their
pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew
from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me.



Sean Donaher 01-18-2004 10:07 PM

Re: How is the Element?
 

"Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:r_GOb.108481$%wh.92139@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
>
> "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:GPCOb.67294$IF6.1587151@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:tnoOb.70688$ZuL1.18216@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "Bernard Felix" <bfelix@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3coOb.1785$Fp1.1075656@news1.news.adelphia.ne t...
> > > > I am looking to buy a new SUV. I currently own an Accord and I

would
> > like
> > > > to get another Honda. I have been doing some research on the

Element,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > wanted some insight from anyone who owns one. Anything good or bad

> (are
> > > you
> > > > happy with it?). I need to make a decision within the next few

> months.
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > BJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Element has very light payload. Something like 600 or 700 lbs. Two

good
> > size
> > > adults and some luggage and you are at max weight allowance. So do not

> > plan
> > > to carry heavy goods. If you kid is fat leave him at home.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> > 600 or 700 LBS? How is that possible? Chirst my 2000 Civic has a

payload
> > limit of 800 LBS. You're telling me a Civic can carry more than an

> Element?
> >
> >
> >

>
> Thats what he told me-- some report it is even as low as 500 lbs.
> Better ask the dealer some leading questions before you get too wrapped up
> in the Element idea.
>
>


I never ask the dealer anything if I can help it since they just tell you
what you want to hear to sell you the car. I remember when I bought my 2003
Accord, I knew more about the car's specs than the salesperson. It was
actually pretty funny. They were talking about the 4-cylinder engine and
trying to tell me it's specs so tried to look for a brochure to read it off
to me when I just blurted it out, "2.4L 4-cyl with i-VTEC, 160 HP @ 5500 RPM
and 161 LB/ft of torque @ 4500 RPM." The salesperson nearly their
pants when I said that. Turned out to be a great tactic because they knew
from that point on that they couldn't bullshit me.




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