How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

'sup all,

I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
a little bit more fluid to drain it good.

Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?

How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
much fluid the system even contains.

Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

On 10 May 2006 18:13:49 -0700, "scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote:

>'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
>cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
>thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
>replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
>don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
>different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
>a little bit more fluid to drain it good.

Old fluid conains water, its going to boil at a lower temp.

>
>Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
>brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
>almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
>lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?

Doesn't matter, you bleed the brakes afterwards. only way, since
there's gong to be air in the cylinder to push out as well

>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
>the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
>big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
>much fluid the system even contains.

Always buy more - brake fluid isn't exactly 'honda coolant' price. Or,
alternatively, buy lots of smaller bottles, since you can't really
store open bottles (moisture gets in and it goes bad)

>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
>system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
>alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
>to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

yep, pretty much, I think a 1l bottle should be plenty.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

On 10 May 2006 18:13:49 -0700, "scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote:

>'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
>cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
>thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
>replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
>don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
>different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
>a little bit more fluid to drain it good.

Old fluid conains water, its going to boil at a lower temp.

>
>Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
>brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
>almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
>lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?

Doesn't matter, you bleed the brakes afterwards. only way, since
there's gong to be air in the cylinder to push out as well

>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
>the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
>big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
>much fluid the system even contains.

Always buy more - brake fluid isn't exactly 'honda coolant' price. Or,
alternatively, buy lots of smaller bottles, since you can't really
store open bottles (moisture gets in and it goes bad)

>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
>system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
>alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
>to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

yep, pretty much, I think a 1l bottle should be plenty.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

On 10 May 2006 18:13:49 -0700, "scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote:

>'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
>cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
>thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
>replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
>don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
>different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
>a little bit more fluid to drain it good.

Old fluid conains water, its going to boil at a lower temp.

>
>Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
>brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
>almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
>lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?

Doesn't matter, you bleed the brakes afterwards. only way, since
there's gong to be air in the cylinder to push out as well

>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
>the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
>big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
>much fluid the system even contains.

Always buy more - brake fluid isn't exactly 'honda coolant' price. Or,
alternatively, buy lots of smaller bottles, since you can't really
store open bottles (moisture gets in and it goes bad)

>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
>system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
>alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
>to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

yep, pretty much, I think a 1l bottle should be plenty.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

I googled on this a few weeks ago, just before flushing my
91 Civic's brake system.

Seems one to two 32-oz. bottles is the consensus to flush
the system. I used a little less than 32-oz after noting the
fluid coming out was pretty clean.

I use a Mity-Vac vacuum pump to bleed the brakes. It takes a
suction at the bleeder screws. A good one costs around $40.
Available via Harbor Freight, among other places.

I'd be in the free online manual at www.autozone.com for
your car for the master cylinder removal etc. directions.
Or, better, use the factory service manual for your 93
Accord at http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

"scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my
> master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in
> there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the
> reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I
> wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different
> (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess
> I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need
> to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first?
> Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into
> the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get
> to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking
> one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I
> don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is
> in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what
> I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until
> I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

I googled on this a few weeks ago, just before flushing my
91 Civic's brake system.

Seems one to two 32-oz. bottles is the consensus to flush
the system. I used a little less than 32-oz after noting the
fluid coming out was pretty clean.

I use a Mity-Vac vacuum pump to bleed the brakes. It takes a
suction at the bleeder screws. A good one costs around $40.
Available via Harbor Freight, among other places.

I'd be in the free online manual at www.autozone.com for
your car for the master cylinder removal etc. directions.
Or, better, use the factory service manual for your 93
Accord at http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

"scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my
> master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in
> there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the
> reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I
> wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different
> (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess
> I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need
> to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first?
> Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into
> the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get
> to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking
> one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I
> don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is
> in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what
> I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until
> I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

I googled on this a few weeks ago, just before flushing my
91 Civic's brake system.

Seems one to two 32-oz. bottles is the consensus to flush
the system. I used a little less than 32-oz after noting the
fluid coming out was pretty clean.

I use a Mity-Vac vacuum pump to bleed the brakes. It takes a
suction at the bleeder screws. A good one costs around $40.
Available via Harbor Freight, among other places.

I'd be in the free online manual at www.autozone.com for
your car for the master cylinder removal etc. directions.
Or, better, use the factory service manual for your 93
Accord at http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html

"scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my
> master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in
> there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the
> reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I
> wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different
> (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess
> I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need
> to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first?
> Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into
> the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get
> to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking
> one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I
> don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is
> in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what
> I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until
> I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>
buy 32oz and use it all. disgard any surplus. best way to bleed the
front calipers is to open the bleed nipple, then push the piston all the
way back in. all the old fluid gets forced out. it's disgusting too.
/then/ when you change the m/c, all the clean stuff coming through has a
really good start. the rears are less important.

wash any brake fluid spillage off bodywork immediately with water. DO
NOT WIPE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!! trust me on that one.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>
buy 32oz and use it all. disgard any surplus. best way to bleed the
front calipers is to open the bleed nipple, then push the piston all the
way back in. all the old fluid gets forced out. it's disgusting too.
/then/ when you change the m/c, all the clean stuff coming through has a
really good start. the rears are less important.

wash any brake fluid spillage off bodywork immediately with water. DO
NOT WIPE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!! trust me on that one.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>
buy 32oz and use it all. disgard any surplus. best way to bleed the
front calipers is to open the bleed nipple, then push the piston all the
way back in. all the old fluid gets forced out. it's disgusting too.
/then/ when you change the m/c, all the clean stuff coming through has a
really good start. the rears are less important.

wash any brake fluid spillage off bodywork immediately with water. DO
NOT WIPE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!! trust me on that one.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

"scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147310028.993910.310130@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>
In addition to the other warnings (especially about cleaning it off paint
without delay) I would add that brake fluid is an organic oil - if you leave
rags contaminated with brake fluid in a pile they may spontaneously burst
into flame.

Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....

Mike

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

"scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147310028.993910.310130@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>
In addition to the other warnings (especially about cleaning it off paint
without delay) I would add that brake fluid is an organic oil - if you leave
rags contaminated with brake fluid in a pile they may spontaneously burst
into flame.

Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....

Mike

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

"scube" <boxfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1147310028.993910.310130@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>
>
In addition to the other warnings (especially about cleaning it off paint
without delay) I would add that brake fluid is an organic oil - if you leave
rags contaminated with brake fluid in a pile they may spontaneously burst
into flame.

Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....

Mike

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
>
> Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
> mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
> putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
> because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
> method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....
>

I couldn't disagree more. It's pretty easy, and a lot more friendly on the
environment, to store the old brake fluid and dispose of it at a repair
shop usually for a small fee or dispose of it for free at a community
household hazardous waste collection day (my community has those about 2 or
3 times a year and they're great for getting rid of small quantities of old
chemicals, oil, etc).

Eric

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
>
> Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
> mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
> putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
> because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
> method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....
>

I couldn't disagree more. It's pretty easy, and a lot more friendly on the
environment, to store the old brake fluid and dispose of it at a repair
shop usually for a small fee or dispose of it for free at a community
household hazardous waste collection day (my community has those about 2 or
3 times a year and they're great for getting rid of small quantities of old
chemicals, oil, etc).

Eric