Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

Michael Pardee wrote:
>
> Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
> mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
> putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
> because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
> method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....
>

I couldn't disagree more. It's pretty easy, and a lot more friendly on the
environment, to store the old brake fluid and dispose of it at a repair
shop usually for a small fee or dispose of it for free at a community
household hazardous waste collection day (my community has those about 2 or
3 times a year and they're great for getting rid of small quantities of old
chemicals, oil, etc).

Eric

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
>
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

You can use a large syringe to remove all of the brake fluid from the master
cylinder reservoir and then bleed the brakes as per the service manual's
instructions.

Eric

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
>
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

You can use a large syringe to remove all of the brake fluid from the master
cylinder reservoir and then bleed the brakes as per the service manual's
instructions.

Eric

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
>
> 'sup all,
>
> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.
>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

You can use a large syringe to remove all of the brake fluid from the master
cylinder reservoir and then bleed the brakes as per the service manual's
instructions.

Eric

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:44632BAA.997BBBEE@spam.now...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>> Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
>> mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
>> putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
>> because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
>> method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....
>>
>
> I couldn't disagree more. It's pretty easy, and a lot more friendly on
> the
> environment, to store the old brake fluid and dispose of it at a repair
> shop usually for a small fee or dispose of it for free at a community
> household hazardous waste collection day (my community has those about 2
> or
> 3 times a year and they're great for getting rid of small quantities of
> old
> chemicals, oil, etc).
>
> Eric

I'll go along with that - leaving the details to professionals at no cost to
us. They may even have a recycling program. Thanks, Eric.

Mike

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:44632BAA.997BBBEE@spam.now...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>> Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
>> mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
>> putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
>> because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
>> method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....
>>
>
> I couldn't disagree more. It's pretty easy, and a lot more friendly on
> the
> environment, to store the old brake fluid and dispose of it at a repair
> shop usually for a small fee or dispose of it for free at a community
> household hazardous waste collection day (my community has those about 2
> or
> 3 times a year and they're great for getting rid of small quantities of
> old
> chemicals, oil, etc).
>
> Eric

I'll go along with that - leaving the details to professionals at no cost to
us. They may even have a recycling program. Thanks, Eric.

Mike

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:44632BAA.997BBBEE@spam.now...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>> Disposal is best done by dumping the old fluid back into the bottle - as
>> mentioned, it doesn't store well once opened - closing it tightly and
>> putting it into the trash. In theory it can be poured onto the ground
>> because it is biodegradable, but that doesn't seem kosher when a better
>> method is available. Or, I suppose you could burn it in an oil lamp....
>>
>
> I couldn't disagree more. It's pretty easy, and a lot more friendly on
> the
> environment, to store the old brake fluid and dispose of it at a repair
> shop usually for a small fee or dispose of it for free at a community
> household hazardous waste collection day (my community has those about 2
> or
> 3 times a year and they're great for getting rid of small quantities of
> old
> chemicals, oil, etc).
>
> Eric

I'll go along with that - leaving the details to professionals at no cost to
us. They may even have a recycling program. Thanks, Eric.

Mike

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> 'sup all,
>

How much brake fluid would be good...hmmm...interesting question. As a
start, enough to fill all the lines and the reservoir.


> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.

Flush ALL of the old fluid out and use only new fluid. And be sure to
bleed the brakes following the manufacturers recommended procedure for
that car.


>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

I'm more than a bit concerned by your questions because they tell me
you don't have a lot of experience working on brakes. Brake work can
be done at home, but someone at the work site has to be knowlegable in
how a brake system works. My strong suggestion is that you either ask
a friend who has that knowlege to sit with you or that you have a
mechanic do the work. Brakes are not something you want to have fixed
just part of the way.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> 'sup all,
>

How much brake fluid would be good...hmmm...interesting question. As a
start, enough to fill all the lines and the reservoir.


> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.

Flush ALL of the old fluid out and use only new fluid. And be sure to
bleed the brakes following the manufacturers recommended procedure for
that car.


>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

I'm more than a bit concerned by your questions because they tell me
you don't have a lot of experience working on brakes. Brake work can
be done at home, but someone at the work site has to be knowlegable in
how a brake system works. My strong suggestion is that you either ask
a friend who has that knowlege to sit with you or that you have a
mechanic do the work. Brakes are not something you want to have fixed
just part of the way.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> 'sup all,
>

How much brake fluid would be good...hmmm...interesting question. As a
start, enough to fill all the lines and the reservoir.


> I've got a 1993 Honda Accord and I'm going to change my master
> cylinder, as well as replace the brake fluid that's in there. I was
> thinking about letting gravity drain the fluid from the reservoir and
> replace the fluid as it drains. Is that a good idea? I wonder if I
> don't get it all out, how would the two different (assuming just
> different in age) behave together? Old vs. New. I guess I should get
> a little bit more fluid to drain it good.

Flush ALL of the old fluid out and use only new fluid. And be sure to
bleed the brakes following the manufacturers recommended procedure for
that car.


>
> Then I was going to replace the Master Cylinder. I need to take the
> brake hoses off, but do I drain the reservoir first? Maybe until
> almost empty. my main quandry is How does air not get into the brake
> lines when I unscrew them from the old master cylinder?
>
> How much brake fluid does anyone recommend I should get to drain
> the system fully and put the new MC on? I was thinking one of those
> big bottles, like 1Ltr. or something would do, though I don't know how
> much fluid the system even contains.
>
> Could anyone help me with this? How much brake fluid is in the
> system? I don't want to run out, but I don't know what I'd do with
> alot of extra fluid either. maybe I'll just flush until I have enough
> to fill the MC plus a little bit more for later :) <grin>

I'm more than a bit concerned by your questions because they tell me
you don't have a lot of experience working on brakes. Brake work can
be done at home, but someone at the work site has to be knowlegable in
how a brake system works. My strong suggestion is that you either ask
a friend who has that knowlege to sit with you or that you have a
mechanic do the work. Brakes are not something you want to have fixed
just part of the way.

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

Okay,

Thanks for all the responses!!

From suggestions, I gather that I should empty the brake system
first, and then replace the master cylinder. I can pump the new fluid
into the system after I install the new MC, correct?

That sounds like a good Idea actually. I was going to flush AFTER
installing the new MC, but I guess I could get some old/new fluids
mixed together that way.

Has anyone tackled replacing a Master Cylinder?

I am concerned about setting the pushrod freeplay. Any
suggestions? The honda manual has a special tool that is used, and
Tegger's method of MC changes (at his website
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/maste...ace/index.html) uses
an alternate and interesting approach as well. This would be my main
concern, as I wouldn't want my brakes to slowly lock on me while
driving, nor would I want them to not slow me down...<grin>

Thanks all...

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

Okay,

Thanks for all the responses!!

From suggestions, I gather that I should empty the brake system
first, and then replace the master cylinder. I can pump the new fluid
into the system after I install the new MC, correct?

That sounds like a good Idea actually. I was going to flush AFTER
installing the new MC, but I guess I could get some old/new fluids
mixed together that way.

Has anyone tackled replacing a Master Cylinder?

I am concerned about setting the pushrod freeplay. Any
suggestions? The honda manual has a special tool that is used, and
Tegger's method of MC changes (at his website
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/maste...ace/index.html) uses
an alternate and interesting approach as well. This would be my main
concern, as I wouldn't want my brakes to slowly lock on me while
driving, nor would I want them to not slow me down...<grin>

Thanks all...

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

Okay,

Thanks for all the responses!!

From suggestions, I gather that I should empty the brake system
first, and then replace the master cylinder. I can pump the new fluid
into the system after I install the new MC, correct?

That sounds like a good Idea actually. I was going to flush AFTER
installing the new MC, but I guess I could get some old/new fluids
mixed together that way.

Has anyone tackled replacing a Master Cylinder?

I am concerned about setting the pushrod freeplay. Any
suggestions? The honda manual has a special tool that is used, and
Tegger's method of MC changes (at his website
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/maste...ace/index.html) uses
an alternate and interesting approach as well. This would be my main
concern, as I wouldn't want my brakes to slowly lock on me while
driving, nor would I want them to not slow me down...<grin>

Thanks all...

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> Okay,
>
> Thanks for all the responses!!
>
> From suggestions, I gather that I should empty the brake system
> first, and then replace the master cylinder. I can pump the new fluid
> into the system after I install the new MC, correct?
>
> That sounds like a good Idea actually. I was going to flush AFTER
> installing the new MC, but I guess I could get some old/new fluids
> mixed together that way.
>
> Has anyone tackled replacing a Master Cylinder?
>
> I am concerned about setting the pushrod freeplay. Any
> suggestions? The honda manual has a special tool that is used, and
> Tegger's method of MC changes (at his website
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/maste...ace/index.html) uses
> an alternate and interesting approach as well. This would be my main
> concern, as I wouldn't want my brakes to slowly lock on me while
> driving, nor would I want them to not slow me down...<grin>


One more time...have someone there who has done more than one brake job
before or have it done by a mechanic. It isn't something to <grin>
about.

>
> Thanks all...

Re: How much brake fluid would ge good?
 

scube wrote:
> Okay,
>
> Thanks for all the responses!!
>
> From suggestions, I gather that I should empty the brake system
> first, and then replace the master cylinder. I can pump the new fluid
> into the system after I install the new MC, correct?
>
> That sounds like a good Idea actually. I was going to flush AFTER
> installing the new MC, but I guess I could get some old/new fluids
> mixed together that way.
>
> Has anyone tackled replacing a Master Cylinder?
>
> I am concerned about setting the pushrod freeplay. Any
> suggestions? The honda manual has a special tool that is used, and
> Tegger's method of MC changes (at his website
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/maste...ace/index.html) uses
> an alternate and interesting approach as well. This would be my main
> concern, as I wouldn't want my brakes to slowly lock on me while
> driving, nor would I want them to not slow me down...<grin>


One more time...have someone there who has done more than one brake job
before or have it done by a mechanic. It isn't something to <grin>
about.

>
> Thanks all...