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Guest 05-01-2007 12:16 PM

How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.

Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

Tegger 05-01-2007 12:47 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
news:A6SdnWtysuNe-qrbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com:

> I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper.
> I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is
> Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was
> able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I
> want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of
> course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO
> far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.
>
> Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as
> original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.




Ask the bodyshop. They will have been told by the insurance company what to
use. If they've been told to use aftermarket, you can either phone Geico
and try to get them to pay for an OEM bumper (good luck!), or you can top
up the insurance company's money to have the bodyshop buy an OEM one.

OEM is considerably more expensive than aftermarket unless you get a used
one, and is considerably better quality. Used OEM is fine.

If the rebar is also being replaced, make sure that's OEM as well.
Aftermarket rebars are badly made. The bumper skin will assume the shape of
the rebar, so if the rebar is misshapen, so will be the skin.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-01-2007 12:47 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
news:A6SdnWtysuNe-qrbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com:

> I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper.
> I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is
> Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was
> able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I
> want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of
> course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO
> far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.
>
> Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as
> original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.




Ask the bodyshop. They will have been told by the insurance company what to
use. If they've been told to use aftermarket, you can either phone Geico
and try to get them to pay for an OEM bumper (good luck!), or you can top
up the insurance company's money to have the bodyshop buy an OEM one.

OEM is considerably more expensive than aftermarket unless you get a used
one, and is considerably better quality. Used OEM is fine.

If the rebar is also being replaced, make sure that's OEM as well.
Aftermarket rebars are badly made. The bumper skin will assume the shape of
the rebar, so if the rebar is misshapen, so will be the skin.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Guest 05-01-2007 01:31 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns992381D4B5C75tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
> news:A6SdnWtysuNe-qrbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper.
>> I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is
>> Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was
>> able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I
>> want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of
>> course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO
>> far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.
>>
>> Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as
>> original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

>
>
>
> Ask the bodyshop. They will have been told by the insurance company what
> to
> use. If they've been told to use aftermarket, you can either phone Geico
> and try to get them to pay for an OEM bumper (good luck!), or you can top
> up the insurance company's money to have the bodyshop buy an OEM one.
>
> OEM is considerably more expensive than aftermarket unless you get a used
> one, and is considerably better quality. Used OEM is fine.
>
> If the rebar is also being replaced, make sure that's OEM as well.
> Aftermarket rebars are badly made. The bumper skin will assume the shape
> of
> the rebar, so if the rebar is misshapen, so will be the skin.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such a
minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very buddy
buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM. I have a $250 deductable
and I would have to pay out of pocket for and aftermarket one when I could
buy that on my own.



Guest 05-01-2007 01:31 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns992381D4B5C75tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
> news:A6SdnWtysuNe-qrbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper.
>> I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is
>> Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was
>> able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I
>> want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of
>> course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO
>> far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.
>>
>> Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as
>> original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

>
>
>
> Ask the bodyshop. They will have been told by the insurance company what
> to
> use. If they've been told to use aftermarket, you can either phone Geico
> and try to get them to pay for an OEM bumper (good luck!), or you can top
> up the insurance company's money to have the bodyshop buy an OEM one.
>
> OEM is considerably more expensive than aftermarket unless you get a used
> one, and is considerably better quality. Used OEM is fine.
>
> If the rebar is also being replaced, make sure that's OEM as well.
> Aftermarket rebars are badly made. The bumper skin will assume the shape
> of
> the rebar, so if the rebar is misshapen, so will be the skin.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such a
minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very buddy
buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM. I have a $250 deductable
and I would have to pay out of pocket for and aftermarket one when I could
buy that on my own.



Art 05-01-2007 02:09 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
YOu might try asking someone in the parts department at your Honda dealer if
there is a way to tell. Also if there is only one Honda dealer in your
area, the bumper would probably have had to come thru him if it is original.


"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns992381D4B5C75tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
>> news:A6SdnWtysuNe-qrbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper.
>>> I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is
>>> Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was
>>> able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I
>>> want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of
>>> course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO
>>> far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.
>>>
>>> Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as
>>> original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

>>
>>
>>
>> Ask the bodyshop. They will have been told by the insurance company what
>> to
>> use. If they've been told to use aftermarket, you can either phone Geico
>> and try to get them to pay for an OEM bumper (good luck!), or you can top
>> up the insurance company's money to have the bodyshop buy an OEM one.
>>
>> OEM is considerably more expensive than aftermarket unless you get a used
>> one, and is considerably better quality. Used OEM is fine.
>>
>> If the rebar is also being replaced, make sure that's OEM as well.
>> Aftermarket rebars are badly made. The bumper skin will assume the shape
>> of
>> the rebar, so if the rebar is misshapen, so will be the skin.
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such a
> minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very buddy
> buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM. I have a $250
> deductable and I would have to pay out of pocket for and aftermarket one
> when I could buy that on my own.
>




Art 05-01-2007 02:09 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
YOu might try asking someone in the parts department at your Honda dealer if
there is a way to tell. Also if there is only one Honda dealer in your
area, the bumper would probably have had to come thru him if it is original.


"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns992381D4B5C75tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
>> news:A6SdnWtysuNe-qrbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>> I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper.
>>> I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is
>>> Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was
>>> able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I
>>> want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of
>>> course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO
>>> far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.
>>>
>>> Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as
>>> original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

>>
>>
>>
>> Ask the bodyshop. They will have been told by the insurance company what
>> to
>> use. If they've been told to use aftermarket, you can either phone Geico
>> and try to get them to pay for an OEM bumper (good luck!), or you can top
>> up the insurance company's money to have the bodyshop buy an OEM one.
>>
>> OEM is considerably more expensive than aftermarket unless you get a used
>> one, and is considerably better quality. Used OEM is fine.
>>
>> If the rebar is also being replaced, make sure that's OEM as well.
>> Aftermarket rebars are badly made. The bumper skin will assume the shape
>> of
>> the rebar, so if the rebar is misshapen, so will be the skin.
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such a
> minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very buddy
> buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM. I have a $250
> deductable and I would have to pay out of pocket for and aftermarket one
> when I could buy that on my own.
>




Earle Horton 05-01-2007 02:30 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>

....
> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on
> such a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem
> very buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM. I have
> a $250 deductable and I would have to pay out of pocket for and
> aftermarket one when I could buy that on my own.
>

No reason they shouldn't be buddy buddy. Markup on parts sold to insurance
companies is huge. If you really, really want to know, tell them you want
to see the parts number sticker, bag or tag that comes with it.

Earle




Earle Horton 05-01-2007 02:30 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>

....
> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on
> such a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem
> very buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM. I have
> a $250 deductable and I would have to pay out of pocket for and
> aftermarket one when I could buy that on my own.
>

No reason they shouldn't be buddy buddy. Markup on parts sold to insurance
companies is huge. If you really, really want to know, tell them you want
to see the parts number sticker, bag or tag that comes with it.

Earle




Tegger 05-01-2007 02:43 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com:


>
> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such
> a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very
> buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.




There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die is
marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without removing the
bumper from the car.

You can do one of two things:
1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper (price
removed of course), or
2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.

Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were told
you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The "buddy buddy"
thing is probably just because they deal with each other all the time on
business.




--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-01-2007 02:43 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com:


>
> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such
> a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very
> buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.




There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die is
marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without removing the
bumper from the car.

You can do one of two things:
1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper (price
removed of course), or
2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.

Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were told
you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The "buddy buddy"
thing is probably just because they deal with each other all the time on
business.




--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Guest 05-01-2007 03:03 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9923956F1B1ABtegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
> news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>
>>
>> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such
>> a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very
>> buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.

>
>
>
> There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die is
> marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without removing
> the
> bumper from the car.
>
> You can do one of two things:
> 1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper
> (price
> removed of course), or
> 2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.
>
> Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were told
> you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The "buddy buddy"
> thing is probably just because they deal with each other all the time on
> business.
>


Thanks. I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts before
they begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they said it will
be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on mine. I just like
it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't sue
anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your car!



Guest 05-01-2007 03:03 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9923956F1B1ABtegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
> news:obGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>
>>
>> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such
>> a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very
>> buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.

>
>
>
> There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die is
> marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without removing
> the
> bumper from the car.
>
> You can do one of two things:
> 1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper
> (price
> removed of course), or
> 2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.
>
> Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were told
> you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The "buddy buddy"
> thing is probably just because they deal with each other all the time on
> business.
>


Thanks. I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts before
they begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they said it will
be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on mine. I just like
it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't sue
anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your car!



Elle 05-01-2007 03:53 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
> I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
> before they begin. If it is painted already (was order
> today and they said it will be in tomorrow), then it will
> more likely than not be on mine. I just like it to be as
> it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't
> sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your
> car!


Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM
body parts. Because as you continue to insist none of this
was your fault, I can only think you are also rationalizing
what Geico should give you vs. what the contract /you
signed/ says it should give you.

Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take
responsibility for agreeing to them.



Elle 05-01-2007 03:53 PM

Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
 
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
> I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
> before they begin. If it is painted already (was order
> today and they said it will be in tomorrow), then it will
> more likely than not be on mine. I just like it to be as
> it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't
> sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your
> car!


Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM
body parts. Because as you continue to insist none of this
was your fault, I can only think you are also rationalizing
what Geico should give you vs. what the contract /you
signed/ says it should give you.

Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take
responsibility for agreeing to them.




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