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Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9924CD600606Dtegger@207.14.116.130: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns9924A9269A444jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85: > >> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns9923CE64CF111tegger@207.14.116.130: >> > >>> >>> Remember, Honda made hundreds of thousands of bumpers. The >>> aftermarket makes a few thousand. Big, BIG difference. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Actually,some other company probably makes the bumpers FOR Honda >> under contract. > > > > Of course. But that's irrelevant. The working drawings come from > Honda, > > The point is that Honda has the budget to develop the thing properly > in the first place, and has the clout to demand extremely high > standards. The aftermarket has none of that. > > > They may not be allowed to. Honda paid for the development, remember? > > With modern CAD/CAM technology,they can take a bumper off a car,measure it and turn out detailed specs for manufacturing molds to make their own.They can buy the raw plastic from the same supplier the OEM company uses. For metal parts,the materials may be of lesser quality,a cheaper alloy,or not as thick a galvanized coating,or maybe no coating at all. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9924CD600606Dtegger@207.14.116.130: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns9924A9269A444jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85: > >> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns9923CE64CF111tegger@207.14.116.130: >> > >>> >>> Remember, Honda made hundreds of thousands of bumpers. The >>> aftermarket makes a few thousand. Big, BIG difference. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Actually,some other company probably makes the bumpers FOR Honda >> under contract. > > > > Of course. But that's irrelevant. The working drawings come from > Honda, > > The point is that Honda has the budget to develop the thing properly > in the first place, and has the clout to demand extremely high > standards. The aftermarket has none of that. > > > They may not be allowed to. Honda paid for the development, remember? > > With modern CAD/CAM technology,they can take a bumper off a car,measure it and turn out detailed specs for manufacturing molds to make their own.They can buy the raw plastic from the same supplier the OEM company uses. For metal parts,the materials may be of lesser quality,a cheaper alloy,or not as thick a galvanized coating,or maybe no coating at all. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns992517E29DF2jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86: >> > > With modern CAD/CAM technology,they can take a bumper off a > car,measure it and turn out detailed specs for manufacturing molds to > make their own. My experience with aftermarket body parts is that they are grossly approximate in dimensions and usually fit poorly. This can only mean either poor quality or bad dimensioning, or both. You cannot properly measure a made bumper and make a tool exactly the same as the original. You do not exactly know the shrink factor. > They can buy the raw plastic from the same supplier the > OEM company uses. They can, but do they? Again, my experience is that if they do, they're buying a substandard grade or something, because toughness, flexibility and stability are usually not the same as OEM. > > For metal parts,the materials may be of lesser quality,a cheaper > alloy,or not as thick a galvanized coating,or maybe no coating at all. > And bad dimensioning. Last aftermarket bumper rebar I looked at was bowed down in the middle. The thing was brand-new, so there was no excuse for that. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns992517E29DF2jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86: >> > > With modern CAD/CAM technology,they can take a bumper off a > car,measure it and turn out detailed specs for manufacturing molds to > make their own. My experience with aftermarket body parts is that they are grossly approximate in dimensions and usually fit poorly. This can only mean either poor quality or bad dimensioning, or both. You cannot properly measure a made bumper and make a tool exactly the same as the original. You do not exactly know the shrink factor. > They can buy the raw plastic from the same supplier the > OEM company uses. They can, but do they? Again, my experience is that if they do, they're buying a substandard grade or something, because toughness, flexibility and stability are usually not the same as OEM. > > For metal parts,the materials may be of lesser quality,a cheaper > alloy,or not as thick a galvanized coating,or maybe no coating at all. > And bad dimensioning. Last aftermarket bumper rebar I looked at was bowed down in the middle. The thing was brand-new, so there was no excuse for that. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
Ok. This is the part number for the bumper (front): 04711-SDA-A90zz
($259.80). It appears to be the same. I even compared it to other cars on the lot with the same color as mine. I also noticed that the right side that meets the headlight has a little gap along the bottom. The bumper seems to be a perfect fit otherwise. I have also noticed this same affect on other cars - on the same side... |
Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
Ok. This is the part number for the bumper (front): 04711-SDA-A90zz
($259.80). It appears to be the same. I even compared it to other cars on the lot with the same color as mine. I also noticed that the right side that meets the headlight has a little gap along the bottom. The bumper seems to be a perfect fit otherwise. I have also noticed this same affect on other cars - on the same side... |
Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
news:hZqdnTx_XaI2BKbbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > Ok. This is the part number for the bumper (front): 04711-SDA-A90zz > ($259.80). It appears to be the same. I even compared it to other > cars on the lot with the same color as mine. I also noticed that the > right side that meets the headlight has a little gap along the bottom. > The bumper seems to be a perfect fit otherwise. I have also noticed > this same affect on other cars - on the same side... > > > The number appears to be a valid Honda part number. Tong Yang Plastics in Taiwan is listed in my searches as the OEM supplier to Honda for that part number. But if your car was made in North America, then likely the bumper was made by a North American supplier intead. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: How to tell a genuine Honda Accord (05) Bumper from After market?
"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
news:hZqdnTx_XaI2BKbbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com: > Ok. This is the part number for the bumper (front): 04711-SDA-A90zz > ($259.80). It appears to be the same. I even compared it to other > cars on the lot with the same color as mine. I also noticed that the > right side that meets the headlight has a little gap along the bottom. > The bumper seems to be a perfect fit otherwise. I have also noticed > this same affect on other cars - on the same side... > > > The number appears to be a valid Honda part number. Tong Yang Plastics in Taiwan is listed in my searches as the OEM supplier to Honda for that part number. But if your car was made in North America, then likely the bumper was made by a North American supplier intead. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
2007 CRV Heavy fuel consumption
I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. Very well made car however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On average in City/Urban driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would expect from a truck not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews was 19.6mpg which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something? The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON 95. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
2007 CRV Heavy fuel consumption
I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. Very well made car however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On average in City/Urban driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would expect from a truck not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews was 19.6mpg which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something? The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON 95. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
Re: 2007 CRV Heavy fuel consumption
My 2005 gets 17 mpg on a good day city, they will tell you break in etc...
but my experience is the CRV is OVERstating the fuel MPG. best on highway I get is 23 MPG...Yes I know what some will say driving habits etc...I know... Not happy with the MPG Period,... I am sure yours will improve as it breaks in but not that much...If you find the reason send me an email as I have brought mine to dealer twice and all they say is all OK.... "Alice" <Alice@wonderland.com> wrote in message news:1178371241_81863@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > > I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. > Very well made car > however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On > average in City/Urban > driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would > expect from a truck > not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews > was 19.6mpg > which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something? > > The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON > 95. > > > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** > ---------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.usenet.com |
Re: 2007 CRV Heavy fuel consumption
My 2005 gets 17 mpg on a good day city, they will tell you break in etc...
but my experience is the CRV is OVERstating the fuel MPG. best on highway I get is 23 MPG...Yes I know what some will say driving habits etc...I know... Not happy with the MPG Period,... I am sure yours will improve as it breaks in but not that much...If you find the reason send me an email as I have brought mine to dealer twice and all they say is all OK.... "Alice" <Alice@wonderland.com> wrote in message news:1178371241_81863@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > > I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. > Very well made car > however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On > average in City/Urban > driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would > expect from a truck > not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews > was 19.6mpg > which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something? > > The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON > 95. > > > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** > ---------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.usenet.com |
Re: 2007 CRV Heavy fuel consumption
I'll keep you posted but no way are they getting away with 13 mpg.
"TF" <flannery16@insightbb.com> wrote: >My 2005 gets 17 mpg on a good day city, they will tell you break in etc... >but my experience is the CRV is OVERstating the fuel MPG. best on highway I >get is 23 MPG...Yes I know what some will say driving habits etc...I know... >Not happy with the MPG Period,... >I am sure yours will improve as it breaks in but not that much...If you find >the reason send me an email as I have brought mine to dealer twice and all >they say is all OK.... > >"Alice" <Alice@wonderland.com> wrote in message >news:1178371241_81863@sp6iad.superfeed.net... >> >> I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. >> Very well made car >> however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On >> average in City/Urban >> driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would >> expect from a truck >> not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews >> was 19.6mpg >> which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something? >> >> The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON >> 95. >> >> >> Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> http://www.usenet.com > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
Re: 2007 CRV Heavy fuel consumption
I'll keep you posted but no way are they getting away with 13 mpg.
"TF" <flannery16@insightbb.com> wrote: >My 2005 gets 17 mpg on a good day city, they will tell you break in etc... >but my experience is the CRV is OVERstating the fuel MPG. best on highway I >get is 23 MPG...Yes I know what some will say driving habits etc...I know... >Not happy with the MPG Period,... >I am sure yours will improve as it breaks in but not that much...If you find >the reason send me an email as I have brought mine to dealer twice and all >they say is all OK.... > >"Alice" <Alice@wonderland.com> wrote in message >news:1178371241_81863@sp6iad.superfeed.net... >> >> I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. >> Very well made car >> however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On >> average in City/Urban >> driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would >> expect from a truck >> not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews >> was 19.6mpg >> which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something? >> >> The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON >> 95. >> >> >> Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> http://www.usenet.com > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
Re: 2007 CRV Heavy fuel consumption
"Alice" <Alice@wonderland.com> wrote in
news:1178371241_81863@sp6iad.superfeed.net: > > I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). 2-wheel drive or 4WD/AWD? > So far so > good. Very well made car however I am getting ridiculously high fuel > consumption figures. On average in City/Urban driving I'm averaging > 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would expect from a > truck not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on > web reviews was 19.6mpg which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am > I missing something? > > The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using > RON 95. Why hi-test? Doesn't the CRV call for 86-87 octane? You're wasting money using a higher octane than specified. check tire pressures. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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