Jim Yanik

"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
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>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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>> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
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>>
>>
>>>
>>> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on
>>> such a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem
>>> very buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.
>>
>>
>>
>> There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die
>> is marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without
>> removing the
>> bumper from the car.
>>
>> You can do one of two things:
>> 1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper
>> (price
>> removed of course), or
>> 2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were
>> told you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The
>> "buddy buddy" thing is probably just because they deal with each
>> other all the time on business.
>>
>
> Thanks. I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
> before they begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they
> said it will be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on
> mine. I just like it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal
> laws, but you can't sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide
> with your car!
>
>
>

Seems like you could sue the pet's owner in small claims court for allowing
their pet to run loose and causing damage to your property.
Many locales have leash laws.

You would need proof like a photo of the killed pet and it's dog tags,the
paperwork from the body shop,etc.;the more evidence,the better chances of
success. Probably too late for all that,though.

your monetary award would be limited bacause your insurance is paying all
but the deductible.(it's fraud to claim more than what you actually paid)
That might make it not worth the trouble,then again,if the deductible is
$500 or $1000,then it's possibly worthwhile.

I'm not a lawyer.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik

"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
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>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9923956F1B1ABtegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
>> newsbGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on
>>> such a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem
>>> very buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.
>>
>>
>>
>> There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die
>> is marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without
>> removing the
>> bumper from the car.
>>
>> You can do one of two things:
>> 1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper
>> (price
>> removed of course), or
>> 2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were
>> told you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The
>> "buddy buddy" thing is probably just because they deal with each
>> other all the time on business.
>>
>
> Thanks. I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
> before they begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they
> said it will be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on
> mine. I just like it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal
> laws, but you can't sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide
> with your car!
>
>
>

Seems like you could sue the pet's owner in small claims court for allowing
their pet to run loose and causing damage to your property.
Many locales have leash laws.

You would need proof like a photo of the killed pet and it's dog tags,the
paperwork from the body shop,etc.;the more evidence,the better chances of
success. Probably too late for all that,though.

your monetary award would be limited bacause your insurance is paying all
but the deductible.(it's fraud to claim more than what you actually paid)
That might make it not worth the trouble,then again,if the deductible is
$500 or $1000,then it's possibly worthwhile.

I'm not a lawyer.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Elle

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
>> There are cruelty to animal
>> laws, but you can't sue anyone when they decide to
>> committ suicide
>> with your car!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Seems like you could sue the pet's owner in small claims
> court for allowing
> their pet to run loose and causing damage to your
> property.
> Many locales have leash laws.
>
> You would need proof like a photo of the killed pet and
> it's dog tags,the
> paperwork from the body shop,etc.;the more evidence,the
> better chances of
> success.

Plus proof of being sober; driving within the speed limit;
driving on the road and not off it; not having a grudge
against the pet's owner; not having poisoned said pet and
thrown it against the car to get a new bumper when the old
one had a little scratch; etc. I encourage the pet's owner
to countersue at this point, because the OP looks like
sharkbait to me.

Why are you encouraging this guy in his whine about the
inevitable "stuff happens"? Cars get damaged. You can try to
milk the insurance cos. for more than what the contract
provides, and so push up rates for all, or you can read the
contract BEFORE signing.

> I'm not a lawyer.

Just supportive of their trade. :-)

Elle

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
>> There are cruelty to animal
>> laws, but you can't sue anyone when they decide to
>> committ suicide
>> with your car!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Seems like you could sue the pet's owner in small claims
> court for allowing
> their pet to run loose and causing damage to your
> property.
> Many locales have leash laws.
>
> You would need proof like a photo of the killed pet and
> it's dog tags,the
> paperwork from the body shop,etc.;the more evidence,the
> better chances of
> success.

Plus proof of being sober; driving within the speed limit;
driving on the road and not off it; not having a grudge
against the pet's owner; not having poisoned said pet and
thrown it against the car to get a new bumper when the old
one had a little scratch; etc. I encourage the pet's owner
to countersue at this point, because the OP looks like
sharkbait to me.

Why are you encouraging this guy in his whine about the
inevitable "stuff happens"? Cars get damaged. You can try to
milk the insurance cos. for more than what the contract
provides, and so push up rates for all, or you can read the
contract BEFORE signing.

> I'm not a lawyer.

Just supportive of their trade. :-)

Guest

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9923956F1B1ABtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
>>> newsbGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on
>>>> such a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem
>>>> very buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die
>>> is marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without
>>> removing the
>>> bumper from the car.
>>>
>>> You can do one of two things:
>>> 1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper
>>> (price
>>> removed of course), or
>>> 2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were
>>> told you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The
>>> "buddy buddy" thing is probably just because they deal with each
>>> other all the time on business.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
>> before they begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they
>> said it will be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on
>> mine. I just like it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal
>> laws, but you can't sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide
>> with your car!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Seems like you could sue the pet's owner in small claims court for
> allowing
> their pet to run loose and causing damage to your property.
> Many locales have leash laws.
>
> You would need proof like a photo of the killed pet and it's dog tags,the
> paperwork from the body shop,etc.;the more evidence,the better chances of
> success. Probably too late for all that,though.
>
> your monetary award would be limited bacause your insurance is paying all
> but the deductible.(it's fraud to claim more than what you actually paid)
> That might make it not worth the trouble,then again,if the deductible is
> $500 or $1000,then it's possibly worthwhile.
>
> I'm not a lawyer.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

Well, this was a wild animal that came out of the woods. It is dead of
course and I can't sue it or anyone.

Guest

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9923956F1B1ABtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
>>> newsbGdnfbUFfX75KrbnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on
>>>> such a minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem
>>>> very buddy buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die
>>> is marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without
>>> removing the
>>> bumper from the car.
>>>
>>> You can do one of two things:
>>> 1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper
>>> (price
>>> removed of course), or
>>> 2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were
>>> told you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The
>>> "buddy buddy" thing is probably just because they deal with each
>>> other all the time on business.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
>> before they begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they
>> said it will be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on
>> mine. I just like it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal
>> laws, but you can't sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide
>> with your car!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Seems like you could sue the pet's owner in small claims court for
> allowing
> their pet to run loose and causing damage to your property.
> Many locales have leash laws.
>
> You would need proof like a photo of the killed pet and it's dog tags,the
> paperwork from the body shop,etc.;the more evidence,the better chances of
> success. Probably too late for all that,though.
>
> your monetary award would be limited bacause your insurance is paying all
> but the deductible.(it's fraud to claim more than what you actually paid)
> That might make it not worth the trouble,then again,if the deductible is
> $500 or $1000,then it's possibly worthwhile.
>
> I'm not a lawyer.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

Well, this was a wild animal that came out of the woods. It is dead of
course and I can't sue it or anyone.

Guest

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
>> I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts before they
>> begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they said it will
>> be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on mine. I just
>> like it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't
>> sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your car!
>
> Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM body parts.
> Because as you continue to insist none of this was your fault, I can only
> think you are also rationalizing what Geico should give you vs. what the
> contract /you signed/ says it should give you.
>
> Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take responsibility for
> agreeing to them.
>

I assume that I can because I had a windshield replaced and they approved a
Honda glass. I did ask the Geico man about OEM and he said yes. If he did
not, I would have raised hell.

Guest

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
>> I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts before they
>> begin. If it is painted already (was order today and they said it will
>> be in tomorrow), then it will more likely than not be on mine. I just
>> like it to be as it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't
>> sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your car!
>
> Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM body parts.
> Because as you continue to insist none of this was your fault, I can only
> think you are also rationalizing what Geico should give you vs. what the
> contract /you signed/ says it should give you.
>
> Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take responsibility for
> agreeing to them.
>

I assume that I can because I had a windshield replaced and they approved a
Honda glass. I did ask the Geico man about OEM and he said yes. If he did
not, I would have raised hell.

Earle Horton

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
> > I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
> > before they begin. If it is painted already (was order
> > today and they said it will be in tomorrow), then it will
> > more likely than not be on mine. I just like it to be as
> > it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't
> > sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your
> > car!
>
> Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM
> body parts. Because as you continue to insist none of this
> was your fault, I can only think you are also rationalizing
> what Geico should give you vs. what the contract /you
> signed/ says it should give you.
>
> Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take
> responsibility for agreeing to them.
>
A bumper too might not be enough of a savings to justify the inevitable
increase in insurance premiums that will occur. He says "I recently had an
animal run into my car" but it's hard to conceive of any animal doing much
damage to the bumper of a car that isn't moving. Whether it's "your fault"
or not, insurance companies have actuarial tables, that say that people who
get in accidents, get in more accidents.

Earle

Earle Horton

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:lVMZh.2701$296.2678@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
> > I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
> > before they begin. If it is painted already (was order
> > today and they said it will be in tomorrow), then it will
> > more likely than not be on mine. I just like it to be as
> > it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't
> > sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your
> > car!
>
> Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM
> body parts. Because as you continue to insist none of this
> was your fault, I can only think you are also rationalizing
> what Geico should give you vs. what the contract /you
> signed/ says it should give you.
>
> Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take
> responsibility for agreeing to them.
>
A bumper too might not be enough of a savings to justify the inevitable
increase in insurance premiums that will occur. He says "I recently had an
animal run into my car" but it's hard to conceive of any animal doing much
damage to the bumper of a car that isn't moving. Whether it's "your fault"
or not, insurance companies have actuarial tables, that say that people who
get in accidents, get in more accidents.

Earle

Tegger

"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
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>>
>
> I assume that I can because I had a windshield replaced and they
> approved a Honda glass. I did ask the Geico man about OEM and he said
> yes. If he did not, I would have raised hell.
>
>
>


Depends on the age of the car, too. Many insurance companies have a policy
of using OEM until the car is three years old.

Also I understand some states mandate the use of OEM parts on insurance
replacements, no matter what.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger

"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in
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>>
>
> I assume that I can because I had a windshield replaced and they
> approved a Honda glass. I did ask the Geico man about OEM and he said
> yes. If he did not, I would have raised hell.
>
>
>


Depends on the age of the car, too. Many insurance companies have a policy
of using OEM until the car is three years old.

Also I understand some states mandate the use of OEM parts on insurance
replacements, no matter what.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jrk

"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
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I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took
my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made
sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on
my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the
car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause
damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is
beyond my control.

Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original
OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

---

For what its worth, I've been told that after market body parts are not made
to exactly match the OEM parts by design. Something about patents and such.
My brother fixes cars at a body shop and tells me that quite often when
working with non-oem parts he needs to modify them to make them fit. (cut
off a bit here and there, drill extra holes, bend something, etc...) He
agrees with another poster saying that used oem is preferable to after
market.

jrk

"Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
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I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took
my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made
sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on
my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the
car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause
damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is
beyond my control.

Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original
OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.

---

For what its worth, I've been told that after market body parts are not made
to exactly match the OEM parts by design. Something about patents and such.
My brother fixes cars at a body shop and tells me that quite often when
working with non-oem parts he needs to modify them to make them fit. (cut
off a bit here and there, drill extra holes, bend something, etc...) He
agrees with another poster saying that used oem is preferable to after
market.

Guest

"Earle Horton" <earle@vascongado.usa> wrote in message
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> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:lVMZh.2701$296.2678@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> "Guest" <llcoolj@aol.com> wrote
>> > I was thinking about asking them to let me see the parts
>> > before they begin. If it is painted already (was order
>> > today and they said it will be in tomorrow), then it will
>> > more likely than not be on mine. I just like it to be as
>> > it was. There are cruelty to animal laws, but you can't
>> > sue anyone when they decide to committ suicide with your
>> > car!
>>
>> Ask Geico what exactly the contract says about using OEM
>> body parts. Because as you continue to insist none of this
>> was your fault, I can only think you are also rationalizing
>> what Geico should give you vs. what the contract /you
>> signed/ says it should give you.
>>
>> Start flames. Then post the contract terms and take
>> responsibility for agreeing to them.
>>
> A bumper too might not be enough of a savings to justify the inevitable
> increase in insurance premiums that will occur. He says "I recently had
> an
> animal run into my car" but it's hard to conceive of any animal doing much
> damage to the bumper of a car that isn't moving. Whether it's "your
> fault"
> or not, insurance companies have actuarial tables, that say that people
> who
> get in accidents, get in more accidents.
>
> Earle
>
>

I am sorry. "An animal waited and jumped into my MOVING car that was going
at east 60 mph." I hope that they do not raise my premium since I have a
clean driving record. This is only my second time utilizing their services.
The first was a windshield that cracked for no reason.