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ElisabethBaker 12-16-2006 10:55 AM

Hunting for my next car
 
Greetings!

I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
maybe you can tell me!

I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
wheels/tires and a manual transmission.

The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.

Where should I look?

Merry Christmas!
Elisabeth


Art 12-16-2006 11:12 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
How about natural gas instead:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...natural_g.html


"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




Art 12-16-2006 11:12 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
How about natural gas instead:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...natural_g.html


"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




Art 12-16-2006 11:12 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
How about natural gas instead:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...natural_g.html


"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




Art 12-16-2006 11:12 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
How about natural gas instead:

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006...natural_g.html


"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




Andy & Carol 12-16-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Manual transmission is very tiresome in bumper to bumper,
rush hour traffic!



"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




Andy & Carol 12-16-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Manual transmission is very tiresome in bumper to bumper,
rush hour traffic!



"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




Andy & Carol 12-16-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Manual transmission is very tiresome in bumper to bumper,
rush hour traffic!



"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




Andy & Carol 12-16-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Manual transmission is very tiresome in bumper to bumper,
rush hour traffic!



"ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166284520.029945.321880@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>




JXStern 12-16-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
This not good enuf for you?

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...lName=Civic+GX

Does have an auto - maybe a CVT?

J.



On 16 Dec 2006 07:55:20 -0800, "ElisabethBaker"
<Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>maybe you can tell me!
>
>I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
>The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
>Where should I look?
>
>Merry Christmas!
>Elisabeth



JXStern 12-16-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
This not good enuf for you?

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...lName=Civic+GX

Does have an auto - maybe a CVT?

J.



On 16 Dec 2006 07:55:20 -0800, "ElisabethBaker"
<Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>maybe you can tell me!
>
>I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
>The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
>Where should I look?
>
>Merry Christmas!
>Elisabeth



JXStern 12-16-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
This not good enuf for you?

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...lName=Civic+GX

Does have an auto - maybe a CVT?

J.



On 16 Dec 2006 07:55:20 -0800, "ElisabethBaker"
<Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>maybe you can tell me!
>
>I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
>The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
>Where should I look?
>
>Merry Christmas!
>Elisabeth



JXStern 12-16-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
This not good enuf for you?

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...lName=Civic+GX

Does have an auto - maybe a CVT?

J.



On 16 Dec 2006 07:55:20 -0800, "ElisabethBaker"
<Elisabeth.G.Baker@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greetings!
>
>I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>maybe you can tell me!
>
>I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
>The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
>Where should I look?
>
>Merry Christmas!
>Elisabeth



jim beam 12-16-2006 06:40 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
ElisabethBaker wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>

search for a civic gx.

jim beam 12-16-2006 06:40 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
ElisabethBaker wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>

search for a civic gx.

jim beam 12-16-2006 06:40 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
ElisabethBaker wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>

search for a civic gx.

jim beam 12-16-2006 06:40 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
ElisabethBaker wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
> maybe you can tell me!
>
> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>
> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>
> Where should I look?
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Elisabeth
>

search for a civic gx.

jim beam 12-16-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
jim beam wrote:
> ElisabethBaker wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>> maybe you can tell me!
>>
>> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>>
>> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>
>> Where should I look?
>>
>> Merry Christmas!
>> Elisabeth
>>

> search for a civic gx.


ps. why do you want one? the fuel is more expensive, less available,
and has a lower calorific value.

jim beam 12-16-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
jim beam wrote:
> ElisabethBaker wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>> maybe you can tell me!
>>
>> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>>
>> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>
>> Where should I look?
>>
>> Merry Christmas!
>> Elisabeth
>>

> search for a civic gx.


ps. why do you want one? the fuel is more expensive, less available,
and has a lower calorific value.

jim beam 12-16-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
jim beam wrote:
> ElisabethBaker wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>> maybe you can tell me!
>>
>> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>>
>> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>
>> Where should I look?
>>
>> Merry Christmas!
>> Elisabeth
>>

> search for a civic gx.


ps. why do you want one? the fuel is more expensive, less available,
and has a lower calorific value.

jim beam 12-16-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
jim beam wrote:
> ElisabethBaker wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I'm afraid I might be looking for something that doesn't exist, but
>> maybe you can tell me!
>>
>> I want a Honda vehicle, and right now it doesn't matter whether it's a
>> Civic, Accord, Element, or other size/shape, as long as it has four
>> wheels/tires and a manual transmission.
>>
>> The tricky part is that I want it to have been built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG, and I want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>
>> Where should I look?
>>
>> Merry Christmas!
>> Elisabeth
>>

> search for a civic gx.


ps. why do you want one? the fuel is more expensive, less available,
and has a lower calorific value.

ElisabethBaker 12-17-2006 05:33 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Thanks for your responses!

I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
experience with CNG,
so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
driving out of my way to get it.

I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
Beam, how you find it more expensive.
I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
environment.

Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!

Thanks again for your time!
Elisabeth

On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
> Where should I look?



ElisabethBaker 12-17-2006 05:33 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Thanks for your responses!

I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
experience with CNG,
so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
driving out of my way to get it.

I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
Beam, how you find it more expensive.
I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
environment.

Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!

Thanks again for your time!
Elisabeth

On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
> Where should I look?



ElisabethBaker 12-17-2006 05:33 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Thanks for your responses!

I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
experience with CNG,
so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
driving out of my way to get it.

I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
Beam, how you find it more expensive.
I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
environment.

Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!

Thanks again for your time!
Elisabeth

On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
> Where should I look?



ElisabethBaker 12-17-2006 05:33 AM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Thanks for your responses!

I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
experience with CNG,
so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
driving out of my way to get it.

I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
Beam, how you find it more expensive.
I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
environment.

Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!

Thanks again for your time!
Elisabeth

On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
> Where should I look?



Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 12:10 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:

> Thanks for your responses!
>
> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
> experience with CNG,
> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
> driving out of my way to get it.
>
> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
> environment.
>
> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>
> Thanks again for your time!
> Elisabeth
>
> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>> Where should I look?


As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
(production). At least for the US market.

And the GX does not come in a manual.

I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 12:10 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:

> Thanks for your responses!
>
> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
> experience with CNG,
> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
> driving out of my way to get it.
>
> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
> environment.
>
> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>
> Thanks again for your time!
> Elisabeth
>
> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>> Where should I look?


As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
(production). At least for the US market.

And the GX does not come in a manual.

I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 12:10 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:

> Thanks for your responses!
>
> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
> experience with CNG,
> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
> driving out of my way to get it.
>
> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
> environment.
>
> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>
> Thanks again for your time!
> Elisabeth
>
> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>> Where should I look?


As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
(production). At least for the US market.

And the GX does not come in a manual.

I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 12:10 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:

> Thanks for your responses!
>
> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
> experience with CNG,
> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
> driving out of my way to get it.
>
> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
> environment.
>
> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>
> Thanks again for your time!
> Elisabeth
>
> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>> Where should I look?


As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
(production). At least for the US market.

And the GX does not come in a manual.

I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

jim beam 12-17-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your responses!
>>
>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>> experience with CNG,
>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>
>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>> environment.
>>
>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>
>> Thanks again for your time!
>> Elisabeth
>>
>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>> Where should I look?

>
> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
> (production). At least for the US market.
>
> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>
> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...


if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???

jim beam 12-17-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your responses!
>>
>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>> experience with CNG,
>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>
>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>> environment.
>>
>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>
>> Thanks again for your time!
>> Elisabeth
>>
>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>> Where should I look?

>
> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
> (production). At least for the US market.
>
> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>
> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...


if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???

jim beam 12-17-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your responses!
>>
>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>> experience with CNG,
>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>
>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>> environment.
>>
>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>
>> Thanks again for your time!
>> Elisabeth
>>
>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>> Where should I look?

>
> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
> (production). At least for the US market.
>
> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>
> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...


if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???

jim beam 12-17-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your responses!
>>
>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>> experience with CNG,
>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>
>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>> environment.
>>
>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>
>> Thanks again for your time!
>> Elisabeth
>>
>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>> Where should I look?

>
> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
> (production). At least for the US market.
>
> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>
> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...


if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???

Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:

> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your responses!
>>>
>>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>>> experience with CNG,
>>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>>
>>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your time!
>>> Elisabeth
>>>
>>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>>> Where should I look?

>>
>> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
>> (production). At least for the US market.
>>
>> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>>
>> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
>> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

>
> if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???


The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.

Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.

Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:

> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your responses!
>>>
>>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>>> experience with CNG,
>>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>>
>>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your time!
>>> Elisabeth
>>>
>>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>>> Where should I look?

>>
>> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
>> (production). At least for the US market.
>>
>> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>>
>> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
>> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

>
> if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???


The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.

Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.

Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:

> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your responses!
>>>
>>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>>> experience with CNG,
>>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>>
>>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your time!
>>> Elisabeth
>>>
>>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>>> Where should I look?

>>
>> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
>> (production). At least for the US market.
>>
>> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>>
>> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
>> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

>
> if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???


The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.

Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.

Joe LaVigne 12-17-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:

> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your responses!
>>>
>>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>>> experience with CNG,
>>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>>
>>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your time!
>>> Elisabeth
>>>
>>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>>> Where should I look?

>>
>> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
>> (production). At least for the US market.
>>
>> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>>
>> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
>> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

>
> if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???


The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.

Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.

jim beam 12-17-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>
>> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your responses!
>>>>
>>>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>>>> experience with CNG,
>>>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>>>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>>>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>>>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>>>
>>>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>>>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>>>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>>>> environment.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>>>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your time!
>>>> Elisabeth
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>>>> Where should I look?
>>> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
>>> (production). At least for the US market.
>>>
>>> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>>>
>>> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
>>> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

>> if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???

>
> The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
> a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.
>
> Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
> a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.


personally, i'm a good deal more concerned about hydrogen. i had the
"privilege" to witness a gas cylinder fire with subsequent explosions
one time, from a safe distance, and that was pretty impressive. bits of
metal were flying at least 100m vertically each time one went off and
the evacuation radius was a good two blocks. in a good hydrogen tank
explosion, i wouldn't want to be inside 10 blocks. getting into an
accident with one of those things on the highway? there wouldn't be
much /scene/ left for accident investigation, let alone bits of car.
probably not much point even fitting air bags to one of those things!

jim beam 12-17-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>
>> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your responses!
>>>>
>>>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>>>> experience with CNG,
>>>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>>>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>>>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>>>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>>>
>>>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>>>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>>>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>>>> environment.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>>>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your time!
>>>> Elisabeth
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>>>> Where should I look?
>>> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
>>> (production). At least for the US market.
>>>
>>> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>>>
>>> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
>>> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

>> if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???

>
> The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
> a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.
>
> Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
> a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.


personally, i'm a good deal more concerned about hydrogen. i had the
"privilege" to witness a gas cylinder fire with subsequent explosions
one time, from a safe distance, and that was pretty impressive. bits of
metal were flying at least 100m vertically each time one went off and
the evacuation radius was a good two blocks. in a good hydrogen tank
explosion, i wouldn't want to be inside 10 blocks. getting into an
accident with one of those things on the highway? there wouldn't be
much /scene/ left for accident investigation, let alone bits of car.
probably not much point even fitting air bags to one of those things!

jim beam 12-17-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Hunting for my next car
 
Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:25:55 -0800, jim beam wrote:
>
>> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:33:32 -0800, ElisabethBaker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your responses!
>>>>
>>>> I have international experience with manual transmission, and a year's
>>>> experience with CNG,
>>>> so Andy & Carol I know I want manual, and Art, JXStern and Jim Beam I
>>>> know I don't want CNG (=natural gas =Civic GX food)
>>>> CNG is too inconvenient to find -- I have to spend a lot of time
>>>> driving out of my way to get it.
>>>>
>>>> I have driven with LPG (=LP Gas =autogas) in Europe and wonder, Jim
>>>> Beam, how you find it more expensive.
>>>> I have understood it to be better for the wallet as well as for the
>>>> environment.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe worldlpgas.com can give me an idea when/where such a car will be
>>>> available here in the US, or if you find anything, please do post me!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your time!
>>>> Elisabeth
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 10:55 am, "ElisabethBaker" <Elisabeth.G.Ba...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Honda vehicle...manual transmission...built (not modified) to
>>>>> run on LPG...want to buy it (new or used) in the United States.
>>>>> Where should I look?
>>> As far as I can tell, Honda does not make a LPG propelled vehicle
>>> (production). At least for the US market.
>>>
>>> And the GX does not come in a manual.
>>>
>>> I am kind of leary of driving any vehicle with an explosive pressurized
>>> tank, though. Just my own thing, I guess...

>> if you're leery of lpg, how do you feel about hydrogen???

>
> The same. Anything that puts a pressurized tank of explosive material in
> a position to be impacted in a crash is a little scary to me.
>
> Just having a pressurized tanks of anything is dangerous in a crash. Even
> a highly pressurized tank of air being impacted would not be very safe.


personally, i'm a good deal more concerned about hydrogen. i had the
"privilege" to witness a gas cylinder fire with subsequent explosions
one time, from a safe distance, and that was pretty impressive. bits of
metal were flying at least 100m vertically each time one went off and
the evacuation radius was a good two blocks. in a good hydrogen tank
explosion, i wouldn't want to be inside 10 blocks. getting into an
accident with one of those things on the highway? there wouldn't be
much /scene/ left for accident investigation, let alone bits of car.
probably not much point even fitting air bags to one of those things!


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