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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 04-06-2007 11:50 AM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:23:18 -0500, Gordon McGrew wrote:

>>> OTOH, I know a guy who had one of those turbo Mitsubishi awd sports
>>> cars that were sold under the (Chrysler) Eagle brand back in the 90's.
>>> He went over the 45K recommended interval by about 1000 miles and the
>>> belt broke and trashed the engine. He fixed it and swore he would
>>> never miss another change interval. The next belt broke at 44K. Moral
>>> of the story: stick to Honda and Toyota.

>>
>>Mitsu's are notorious for throwing belts!
>>
>>And, if I were your friend, I would think about a 40,000 mile interval!!!
>>
>>

> He dumped that car and bought an Isuzu mini SUV. Some guys never learn.



LOL! How do you say "Blown head gasket" in Japanese?

It's either Isuzu or Supra, I can't remember now...



Codifus 04-07-2007 11:09 AM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:23:18 -0500, Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
>
>>>>OTOH, I know a guy who had one of those turbo Mitsubishi awd sports
>>>>cars that were sold under the (Chrysler) Eagle brand back in the 90's.
>>>>He went over the 45K recommended interval by about 1000 miles and the
>>>>belt broke and trashed the engine. He fixed it and swore he would
>>>>never miss another change interval. The next belt broke at 44K. Moral
>>>>of the story: stick to Honda and Toyota.
>>>
>>>Mitsu's are notorious for throwing belts!
>>>
>>>And, if I were your friend, I would think about a 40,000 mile interval!!!
>>>
>>>

>>
>>He dumped that car and bought an Isuzu mini SUV. Some guys never learn.

>
>
>
> LOL! How do you say "Blown head gasket" in Japanese?
>
> It's either Isuzu or Supra, I can't remember now...
>
>

Yup. Supra MKIII turbos. Mine was one of many with blown head gaskets.
Pity, such a beautiful car.

CD

Danny G. 04-07-2007 01:28 PM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 

"Codifus" <codifus@optonline.net> wrote in message news:ruORh.24$fy6.13@newsfe12.lga...
> Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:23:18 -0500, Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>OTOH, I know a guy who had one of those turbo Mitsubishi awd sports
>>>>>cars that were sold under the (Chrysler) Eagle brand back in the 90's.
>>>>>He went over the 45K recommended interval by about 1000 miles and the
>>>>>belt broke and trashed the engine. He fixed it and swore he would
>>>>>never miss another change interval. The next belt broke at 44K. Moral
>>>>>of the story: stick to Honda and Toyota.
>>>>
>>>>Mitsu's are notorious for throwing belts!
>>>>
>>>>And, if I were your friend, I would think about a 40,000 mile interval!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>He dumped that car and bought an Isuzu mini SUV. Some guys never learn.

>>
>>
>>
>> LOL! How do you say "Blown head gasket" in Japanese? It's either Isuzu or Supra, I can't remember now...
>>
>>

> Yup. Supra MKIII turbos. Mine was one of many with blown head gaskets. Pity, such a beautiful car.
>
> CD




Was your Supra stock? Ever overheat or leak coolant?
I'm just curious because I have been following the issue (own a Supra) for a long time.

Thanks
Dan



Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 04-07-2007 01:34 PM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 11:09:52 -0400, Codifus wrote:

> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:23:18 -0500, Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>OTOH, I know a guy who had one of those turbo Mitsubishi awd sports
>>>>>cars that were sold under the (Chrysler) Eagle brand back in the 90's.
>>>>>He went over the 45K recommended interval by about 1000 miles and the
>>>>>belt broke and trashed the engine. He fixed it and swore he would
>>>>>never miss another change interval. The next belt broke at 44K. Moral
>>>>>of the story: stick to Honda and Toyota.
>>>>
>>>>Mitsu's are notorious for throwing belts!
>>>>
>>>>And, if I were your friend, I would think about a 40,000 mile
>>>>interval!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>He dumped that car and bought an Isuzu mini SUV. Some guys never learn.

>>
>>
>>
>> LOL! How do you say "Blown head gasket" in Japanese?
>>
>> It's either Isuzu or Supra, I can't remember now...
>>
>>

> Yup. Supra MKIII turbos. Mine was one of many with blown head gaskets.
> Pity, such a beautiful car.
>
> CD



When I bought mine, I had all the records from the previous owner (but not
from the original owner). I know the last owner spent $1100 on cooling
system components. I wonder if that included a HG. I'll have to see if I
can find it.

I ran it one year just fine, and then last year it started overheating.
Thanks to Ray O and Danny G I discovered the fan clutch had bitten the big
one. A new clutch and no overheating problems!

The only problem is, I went aftermarket. When the fan comes on it does so
with a vengance, and the car sounds like a B-17 taking off! (If you've
ever heard one, that is!)


Codifus 04-07-2007 07:55 PM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
Danny G. wrote:
> "Codifus" <codifus@optonline.net> wrote in message news:ruORh.24$fy6.13@newsfe12.lga...
>
>>Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:23:18 -0500, Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>OTOH, I know a guy who had one of those turbo Mitsubishi awd sports
>>>>>>cars that were sold under the (Chrysler) Eagle brand back in the 90's.
>>>>>>He went over the 45K recommended interval by about 1000 miles and the
>>>>>>belt broke and trashed the engine. He fixed it and swore he would
>>>>>>never miss another change interval. The next belt broke at 44K. Moral
>>>>>>of the story: stick to Honda and Toyota.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mitsu's are notorious for throwing belts!
>>>>>
>>>>>And, if I were your friend, I would think about a 40,000 mile interval!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>He dumped that car and bought an Isuzu mini SUV. Some guys never learn.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>LOL! How do you say "Blown head gasket" in Japanese? It's either Isuzu or Supra, I can't remember now...
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Yup. Supra MKIII turbos. Mine was one of many with blown head gaskets. Pity, such a beautiful car.
>>
>>CD

>
>
>
>
> Was your Supra stock? Ever overheat or leak coolant?
> I'm just curious because I have been following the issue (own a Supra) or a long time.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>

Classic symptoms of a blown head gasket:

Car overheats and the overflow tanks boils over. You stop the car and
let it cool down. Surprisingly, it cools down rather quickly. You fill
the radiator and overflow with coolant and drive off. The car is fine
for some time, like a week or so before it does it again.

I kept that going for a year, then one day the car was totally sick. No
power, exhaust was pure smoke. I knew the the head gasket just blew a
whole chunk by then and coolant was going directly into the combustion
chamber.

Had the gasket replaced and car was good after that.

CD

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 04-07-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:55:29 -0400, Codifus wrote:

>> Was your Supra stock? Ever overheat or leak coolant? I'm just curious
>> because I have been following the issue (own a Supra) or a long time.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dan
>>
>>

> Classic symptoms of a blown head gasket:
>
> Car overheats and the overflow tanks boils over.


Uh, oh..


> You stop the car and let
> it cool down. Surprisingly, it cools down rather quickly.


Well, that didn't happen...it took quite a while!

> You fill the
> radiator and overflow with coolant and drive off. The car is fine for some
> time, like a week or so before it does it again.


Nah, not in my case.


>
> I kept that going for a year, then one day the car was totally sick. No
> power, exhaust was pure smoke. I knew the the head gasket just blew a
> whole chunk by then and coolant was going directly into the combustion
> chamber.
>
> Had the gasket replaced and car was good after that.


Mine was a fan clutch that wasn't working right. After I replaced it,
everthing was fine.

But, one time the overflow bottle was boiling...

Or at least had steam bubbling up in it.


Codifus 04-10-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>
> Mine was a fan clutch that wasn't working right. After I replaced it,
> everthing was fine.
>
> But, one time the overflow bottle was boiling...
>
> Or at least had steam bubbling up in it.
>


Yeah, after you replaced the fan and you still had bubbles in the
overflow tank, yours was on the way out. Keep in mind that it varies
driving style. For my style, let's just say that I would stop the car at
night and pop the hood to see the turbo glowing bright orange . . . . .
.. .and it was definitely NOT from any neon lights:)

CD

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 04-10-2007 11:09 PM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:48:55 -0400, Codifus wrote:

> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>>
>> Mine was a fan clutch that wasn't working right. After I replaced it,
>> everthing was fine.
>>
>> But, one time the overflow bottle was boiling...
>>
>> Or at least had steam bubbling up in it.
>>
>>

> Yeah, after you replaced the fan and you still had bubbles in the overflow
> tank, yours was on the way out. Keep in mind that it varies driving style.
> For my style, let's just say that I would stop the car at night and pop
> the hood to see the turbo glowing bright orange . . . . . . .and it was
> definitely NOT from any neon lights:)
>
> CD



No, after I replaced the fan clutch the overheating and the bubbling
stopped. And, I don't have the Turbo, so I ain't overheating much
(pavement included...I have the Sport Roof model...4400 LBS, automatic and
NO TURBO!!!)


Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 04-10-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Lose your timing belt, lose your engine
 
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:04:10 +0200, George Orwell wrote:

> Watch out! Many Japanese products use timing belts with non-free running
> (interference) engines. When, not if, the belt skips or breaks, your
> engine and $8,000 is gone. Even if you get through the warranty period,
> the resale takes a big hit because the word has got around.
>
> Auto makers, heed this warning. The public knows gear, shaft, or chain
> driven single or double OHC engines are are safe design. Timing belt
> driven setups are not.
>
> Suzuki is an exception. Their cars are okay.



Oh, yeah...Codifus made me remember something. When I bought my Supra, it
had...a BROKEN TIMING BELT!!!! But since I knew this was a
Non-Interference engine, $100 and a new timing belt later it was up and
running just fine again.

so there.



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