Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

In article <20070817021953.3db1cc30@barada.griffincs.local> ,
Joe LaVigne <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

> It is silly to suggest that they give longer recommendations in order
> to compete with other manufacturers. Especially for Hondas and Toyotas,
> which sell (largely) on a history of longevity.

A reputation which they don't hesitate to throw down the toilet.

Case in point: Honda automatic transmissions hooked to V6 engines.
Those transmissions were CRAP for a solid 6 years. Honda knows it.
Everybody knows it. Honda was run by beancounters who threw away that
Honda reputation for the sake of a few shekels.

Case in point: Toyota sludge.

They may have reputations for longevity, but when it comes to saving a
few pennies, they will throw those reputations away without another
thought.

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:19:53 -0400, Joe LaVigne
<jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:58 -0700
>Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
>
>> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
>He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>

Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
requesting information.

I am sorry that Eric was offended. Sometimes these things just happen.
I noticed he did reply to the list, but the reply showed up in my
Agent as a graphics file which I did not open. So I do not know what
Eric's reply was.



Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:19:53 -0400, Joe LaVigne
<jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:58 -0700
>Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
>
>> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
>He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>

Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
requesting information.

I am sorry that Eric was offended. Sometimes these things just happen.
I noticed he did reply to the list, but the reply showed up in my
Agent as a graphics file which I did not open. So I do not know what
Eric's reply was.



Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:19:53 -0400, Joe LaVigne
<jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:58 -0700
>Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
>
>> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
>He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>

Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
requesting information.

I am sorry that Eric was offended. Sometimes these things just happen.
I noticed he did reply to the list, but the reply showed up in my
Agent as a graphics file which I did not open. So I do not know what
Eric's reply was.



Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

In article <7i0cc3tqc209nd46ss1cdl1ea0u8un1e42@4ax.com>,
Elliot Richmond <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

> >> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
> >He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>
>
> Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
> which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
> service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
> be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
> requesting information.

Depending on how you recount the tale, it is.

Look up "conversational implicature".

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

In article <7i0cc3tqc209nd46ss1cdl1ea0u8un1e42@4ax.com>,
Elliot Richmond <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

> >> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
> >He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>
>
> Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
> which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
> service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
> be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
> requesting information.

Depending on how you recount the tale, it is.

Look up "conversational implicature".

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

In article <7i0cc3tqc209nd46ss1cdl1ea0u8un1e42@4ax.com>,
Elliot Richmond <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

> >> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
> >He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>
>
> Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
> which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
> service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
> be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
> requesting information.

Depending on how you recount the tale, it is.

Look up "conversational implicature".

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

Elliot Richmond wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:19:53 -0400, Joe LaVigne
> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:58 -0700
> >Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
> >
> >> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
> >He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>
>
> Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
> which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
> service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
> be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
> requesting information.
>
> I am sorry that Eric was offended. Sometimes these things just happen.
> I noticed he did reply to the list, but the reply showed up in my
> Agent as a graphics file which I did not open. So I do not know what
> Eric's reply was.
>

The reply was html formatted to highlight the following quotes from your
original message.

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Well, I dug out the owners manual, and looked for a schedule.
Instead, it told me that the computer would tell me when the
car needed service. No mileage schedule. I remembered the
collective wisdom of this group and that this subject was
*discussed, so I dug through the archives. No mileage schedule.*
*I searched the internet. No mileage schedule.*

So, I replied to the email from the service facility,
explaining that all of the information I had was that the car
would tell me when it needed service and if the service manager
knew something I did not know, then he should share it with me.
*Particularly, I wanted to know if there really was a mileage*
*schedule that supplemented the maintenance minders.*

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

Elliot Richmond wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:19:53 -0400, Joe LaVigne
> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:58 -0700
> >Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
> >
> >> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
> >He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>
>
> Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
> which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
> service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
> be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
> requesting information.
>
> I am sorry that Eric was offended. Sometimes these things just happen.
> I noticed he did reply to the list, but the reply showed up in my
> Agent as a graphics file which I did not open. So I do not know what
> Eric's reply was.
>

The reply was html formatted to highlight the following quotes from your
original message.

· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·

Well, I dug out the owners manual, and looked for a schedule.
Instead, it told me that the computer would tell me when the
car needed service. No mileage schedule. I remembered the
collective wisdom of this group and that this subject was
*discussed, so I dug through the archives. No mileage schedule.*
*I searched the internet. No mileage schedule.*

So, I replied to the email from the service facility,
explaining that all of the information I had was that the car
would tell me when it needed service and if the service manager
knew something I did not know, then he should share it with me.
*Particularly, I wanted to know if there really was a mileage*
*schedule that supplemented the maintenance minders.*

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

Elliot Richmond wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 02:19:53 -0400, Joe LaVigne
> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:41:58 -0700
> >Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:
> >
> >> So, you asked for service mileage recommendations <snip>
> >He asked for Honda's recommendation. <snip>
>
> Thanks, but actually, I did not ask even for that. I told a tale,
> which included a report of my lack of success in finding a recommended
> service interval, but that is not the same as asking for one. It may
> be a fine point, but recounting an anecdote is not the same as
> requesting information.
>
> I am sorry that Eric was offended. Sometimes these things just happen.
> I noticed he did reply to the list, but the reply showed up in my
> Agent as a graphics file which I did not open. So I do not know what
> Eric's reply was.
>

The reply was html formatted to highlight the following quotes from your
original message.

· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·

Well, I dug out the owners manual, and looked for a schedule.
Instead, it told me that the computer would tell me when the
car needed service. No mileage schedule. I remembered the
collective wisdom of this group and that this subject was
*discussed, so I dug through the archives. No mileage schedule.*
*I searched the internet. No mileage schedule.*

So, I replied to the email from the service facility,
explaining that all of the information I had was that the car
would tell me when it needed service and if the service manager
knew something I did not know, then he should share it with me.
*Particularly, I wanted to know if there really was a mileage*
*schedule that supplemented the maintenance minders.*

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:38:13 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:

>The reply was html formatted to highlight the following quotes from your
>original message.

Okay, if you think I was asking for somebody on the list to supply a
maintenance schedule and you thought you were doing a favor for me by
supplying such a list, then I can see how you might have been
offended.

I have already apologized. Thanks for your help.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:38:13 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:

>The reply was html formatted to highlight the following quotes from your
>original message.

Okay, if you think I was asking for somebody on the list to supply a
maintenance schedule and you thought you were doing a favor for me by
supplying such a list, then I can see how you might have been
offended.

I have already apologized. Thanks for your help.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:38:13 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:

>The reply was html formatted to highlight the following quotes from your
>original message.

Okay, if you think I was asking for somebody on the list to supply a
maintenance schedule and you thought you were doing a favor for me by
supplying such a list, then I can see how you might have been
offended.

I have already apologized. Thanks for your help.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

In article <37ecc39c568r35ep90ep8496o2v8avbuoa@4ax.com>,
Elliot Richmond <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

> Okay, if you think I was asking for somebody on the list to supply a
> maintenance schedule

Well, let's see. What are we supposed to take from what you originally
said:

In article <auc6c3h58i85rchcamapffi1t4iirpijt6@4ax.com>,
Elliot Richmond <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

> Particularly, I wanted to know
> if there really was a mileage schedule that supplemented the
> maintenance minders.

When you come to the newsgroup and say something like that, the
implication (remember "conversational implicature"?) is that you're
asking the readers if THEY know of a mileage schedule.

The implication is NOT that you're just talking to hear yourself talk.

But, apparently you were talking just to hear yourself talk.

Re: Maintenance Reminders redux
 

In article <37ecc39c568r35ep90ep8496o2v8avbuoa@4ax.com>,
Elliot Richmond <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

> Okay, if you think I was asking for somebody on the list to supply a
> maintenance schedule

Well, let's see. What are we supposed to take from what you originally
said:

In article <auc6c3h58i85rchcamapffi1t4iirpijt6@4ax.com>,
Elliot Richmond <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

> Particularly, I wanted to know
> if there really was a mileage schedule that supplemented the
> maintenance minders.

When you come to the newsgroup and say something like that, the
implication (remember "conversational implicature"?) is that you're
asking the readers if THEY know of a mileage schedule.

The implication is NOT that you're just talking to hear yourself talk.

But, apparently you were talking just to hear yourself talk.