Mushy acceleration
#46
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Re: Mushy acceleration
On 6/23/2006 8:44 AM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>
>> OK, here's my problem, as best I can describe it:
>>
>> '03 Accord 4 cyl, 84000 miles 5 speed Automatic transmission.
>>
>> When I accelerate, the response is generally somewhat delayed (by a
>> second or two). This is more or less noticeable, depending on my situation.
>>
>> Also, going up a fairly steep incline at 15 mph, I manually put the
>> transmission in 2nd gear; I can then push the accelerator 3/4 of the way
>> to the floor without getting much response at all. Only if I floor it,
>> thus shifting to first, do I get any real response. Otherwise, it's as
>> if it's in too high a gear - bogging. But a.) I'm talking 3/4 of the
>> accelerator travel at 15 mph in 2nd gear, and b.) it used to be much
>> more responsive.
>>
>> Also, my gas mileage is decreasing; at first I wrote this off to the
>> increased (pretty much all the time) use of the A/C, but I'm losing more
>> (3 -5 mpg) than I think I should, or than I have in previous summers.
>>
>> My first thought is a transmission flush, but I'm no expert.
>>
>> Opinions, please?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> RFT!!!
>> Dave Kelsen
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> 1) Put it in first gear if you're trying to climb a tall (parkade?) ramp
> with a cold engine.
This is when it's warm, and the hill isn't too tall, although pretty steep.
> 2) Run a can of Techron injector cleaner through it twice a year. It
> will solve dribbling / sloppy injectors and will help keep the throttle
> body clean.
Excellent idea. I'll do it soon.
> 3) Rev the **** out of it while using the cleaner. Hondas like that now
> and then anyway.
>
> 4) Check the TSB's for LOOSE THROTTLE CABLE.
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/ I know the first generation CR-V
> had it. You can adjust it yourself, but don't go too tight, it needs a
> bit of slack....
I'll do that as well.
Thanks, Curls, and the others who responded. I'll let you know what
results I get.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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You know, poetry would be a lot easier if the words "girlfriend" and
"Satan" rhymed.
> Dave Kelsen wrote:
>>
>> OK, here's my problem, as best I can describe it:
>>
>> '03 Accord 4 cyl, 84000 miles 5 speed Automatic transmission.
>>
>> When I accelerate, the response is generally somewhat delayed (by a
>> second or two). This is more or less noticeable, depending on my situation.
>>
>> Also, going up a fairly steep incline at 15 mph, I manually put the
>> transmission in 2nd gear; I can then push the accelerator 3/4 of the way
>> to the floor without getting much response at all. Only if I floor it,
>> thus shifting to first, do I get any real response. Otherwise, it's as
>> if it's in too high a gear - bogging. But a.) I'm talking 3/4 of the
>> accelerator travel at 15 mph in 2nd gear, and b.) it used to be much
>> more responsive.
>>
>> Also, my gas mileage is decreasing; at first I wrote this off to the
>> increased (pretty much all the time) use of the A/C, but I'm losing more
>> (3 -5 mpg) than I think I should, or than I have in previous summers.
>>
>> My first thought is a transmission flush, but I'm no expert.
>>
>> Opinions, please?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> RFT!!!
>> Dave Kelsen
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> 1) Put it in first gear if you're trying to climb a tall (parkade?) ramp
> with a cold engine.
This is when it's warm, and the hill isn't too tall, although pretty steep.
> 2) Run a can of Techron injector cleaner through it twice a year. It
> will solve dribbling / sloppy injectors and will help keep the throttle
> body clean.
Excellent idea. I'll do it soon.
> 3) Rev the **** out of it while using the cleaner. Hondas like that now
> and then anyway.
>
> 4) Check the TSB's for LOOSE THROTTLE CABLE.
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/ I know the first generation CR-V
> had it. You can adjust it yourself, but don't go too tight, it needs a
> bit of slack....
I'll do that as well.
Thanks, Curls, and the others who responded. I'll let you know what
results I get.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
You know, poetry would be a lot easier if the words "girlfriend" and
"Satan" rhymed.
#47
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Re: Mushy acceleration
"Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
> replaced 10-15K ago.
For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
replace it?
There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
I believe had a good citation on this recently.
Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
Curly), seriously too.
> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
> replaced 10-15K ago.
For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
replace it?
There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
I believe had a good citation on this recently.
Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
Curly), seriously too.
#48
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Re: Mushy acceleration
"Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
> replaced 10-15K ago.
For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
replace it?
There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
I believe had a good citation on this recently.
Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
Curly), seriously too.
> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
> replaced 10-15K ago.
For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
replace it?
There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
I believe had a good citation on this recently.
Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
Curly), seriously too.
#49
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Re: Mushy acceleration
"Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
> replaced 10-15K ago.
For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
replace it?
There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
I believe had a good citation on this recently.
Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
Curly), seriously too.
> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
> replaced 10-15K ago.
For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
replace it?
There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
I believe had a good citation on this recently.
Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
Curly), seriously too.
#50
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Re: Mushy acceleration
On 6/23/2006 9:12 PM Elle spake these words of knowledge:
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
>> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
>> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
>> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
>> replaced 10-15K ago.
>
> For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
> replace it?
>
> There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
> should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
> is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
> affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
> I believe had a good citation on this recently.
>
> Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
> Curly), seriously too.
I don't remember; I ordered it online, but I can't say that if I got it
from a Honda place or not. I do remember that prices weren't wildly
different, and in that case I ordinarily get parts from Honda, but I'm
not sure in this case.
I'm gonna try the cleaning as soon as I get a chance.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Dying is no excuse. Nixon in 2008.
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
>> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
>> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
>> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
>> replaced 10-15K ago.
>
> For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
> replace it?
>
> There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
> should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
> is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
> affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
> I believe had a good citation on this recently.
>
> Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
> Curly), seriously too.
I don't remember; I ordered it online, but I can't say that if I got it
from a Honda place or not. I do remember that prices weren't wildly
different, and in that case I ordinarily get parts from Honda, but I'm
not sure in this case.
I'm gonna try the cleaning as soon as I get a chance.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Dying is no excuse. Nixon in 2008.
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Re: Mushy acceleration
On 6/23/2006 9:12 PM Elle spake these words of knowledge:
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
>> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
>> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
>> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
>> replaced 10-15K ago.
>
> For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
> replace it?
>
> There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
> should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
> is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
> affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
> I believe had a good citation on this recently.
>
> Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
> Curly), seriously too.
I don't remember; I ordered it online, but I can't say that if I got it
from a Honda place or not. I do remember that prices weren't wildly
different, and in that case I ordinarily get parts from Honda, but I'm
not sure in this case.
I'm gonna try the cleaning as soon as I get a chance.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Dying is no excuse. Nixon in 2008.
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
>> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
>> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
>> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
>> replaced 10-15K ago.
>
> For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
> replace it?
>
> There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
> should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
> is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
> affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
> I believe had a good citation on this recently.
>
> Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
> Curly), seriously too.
I don't remember; I ordered it online, but I can't say that if I got it
from a Honda place or not. I do remember that prices weren't wildly
different, and in that case I ordinarily get parts from Honda, but I'm
not sure in this case.
I'm gonna try the cleaning as soon as I get a chance.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Dying is no excuse. Nixon in 2008.
#52
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Re: Mushy acceleration
On 6/23/2006 9:12 PM Elle spake these words of knowledge:
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
>> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
>> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
>> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
>> replaced 10-15K ago.
>
> For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
> replace it?
>
> There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
> should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
> is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
> affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
> I believe had a good citation on this recently.
>
> Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
> Curly), seriously too.
I don't remember; I ordered it online, but I can't say that if I got it
from a Honda place or not. I do remember that prices weren't wildly
different, and in that case I ordinarily get parts from Honda, but I'm
not sure in this case.
I'm gonna try the cleaning as soon as I get a chance.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Dying is no excuse. Nixon in 2008.
> "Dave Kelsen" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> I have had a failed O2 sensor (secondary), and it did give
>> me a check engine light. I think the code was P0141. I
>> replaced that myself, one of the easier things I've done.
>> There could be some correlation, although the sensor was
>> replaced 10-15K ago.
>
> For the record, did you use a genuine Honda O2 sensor to
> replace it?
>
> There are reports that the O2 sensors are not something one
> should go aftermarket with. Admittedly the secondary sensor
> is there mostly to monitor the cat converter, but it does
> affect fuel trim, too. Stephen H., our resident technician,
> I believe had a good citation on this recently.
>
> Take that PCV valve and the Chevron Techron (as suggested by
> Curly), seriously too.
I don't remember; I ordered it online, but I can't say that if I got it
from a Honda place or not. I do remember that prices weren't wildly
different, and in that case I ordinarily get parts from Honda, but I'm
not sure in this case.
I'm gonna try the cleaning as soon as I get a chance.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Dying is no excuse. Nixon in 2008.
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