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jim beam 01-28-2007 11:46 AM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>>
>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>
>>

>
>
> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>
> <G>
>
> JT
>
>

the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
absolutely flies. i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
variance "noise".

jim beam 01-28-2007 11:46 AM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>>
>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>
>>

>
>
> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>
> <G>
>
> JT
>
>

the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
absolutely flies. i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
variance "noise".

jim beam 01-28-2007 11:46 AM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>>
>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>
>>

>
>
> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>
> <G>
>
> JT
>
>

the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
absolutely flies. i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
variance "noise".

jim beam 01-28-2007 11:46 AM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>>
>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>
>>

>
>
> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>
> <G>
>
> JT
>
>

the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
absolutely flies. i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
variance "noise".

Jim Yanik 01-28-2007 02:38 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>
>> <G>
>>
>> JT
>>
>>

> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
> absolutely flies.


Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)

> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
> variance "noise".
>


Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?

you will get more torque from more displacement.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-28-2007 02:38 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>
>> <G>
>>
>> JT
>>
>>

> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
> absolutely flies.


Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)

> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
> variance "noise".
>


Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?

you will get more torque from more displacement.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-28-2007 02:38 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>
>> <G>
>>
>> JT
>>
>>

> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
> absolutely flies.


Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)

> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
> variance "noise".
>


Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?

you will get more torque from more displacement.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 01-28-2007 02:38 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>
>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>
>> <G>
>>
>> JT
>>
>>

> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
> absolutely flies.


Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)

> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
> variance "noise".
>


Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?

you will get more torque from more displacement.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Grumpy AuContraire 01-28-2007 04:30 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 


Jim Yanik wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>>
>>>>> JT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>>
>>> <G>
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
>> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
>> absolutely flies.

>
> Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)
>
>> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
>> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
>> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
>> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
>> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
>> variance "noise".
>>

>
> Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?
>
> you will get more torque from more displacement.
>




Maybe but torque is a direct result of stroke whereas a short stroker
will enjoy a faster windup...

How's dat fer a daffynishun?

JT


Grumpy AuContraire 01-28-2007 04:30 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 


Jim Yanik wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>>
>>>>> JT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>>
>>> <G>
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
>> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
>> absolutely flies.

>
> Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)
>
>> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
>> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
>> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
>> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
>> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
>> variance "noise".
>>

>
> Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?
>
> you will get more torque from more displacement.
>




Maybe but torque is a direct result of stroke whereas a short stroker
will enjoy a faster windup...

How's dat fer a daffynishun?

JT


Grumpy AuContraire 01-28-2007 04:30 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 


Jim Yanik wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>>
>>>>> JT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>>
>>> <G>
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
>> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
>> absolutely flies.

>
> Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)
>
>> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
>> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
>> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
>> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
>> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
>> variance "noise".
>>

>
> Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?
>
> you will get more torque from more displacement.
>




Maybe but torque is a direct result of stroke whereas a short stroker
will enjoy a faster windup...

How's dat fer a daffynishun?

JT


Grumpy AuContraire 01-28-2007 04:30 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 


Jim Yanik wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:xaOdnZQaOJz_TiHYnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:LMPuh.474974$Fi1.65926@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH, how can someone have a car for that long and not be aware of
>>>>> what exactly is in it???
>>>>>
>>>>> JT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And does it matter now, if it wasn't a problem all those years?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If it were me... I wouldn't even admit it!
>>>
>>> <G>
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>>

>> the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
>> issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
>> absolutely flies.

>
> Didya check first to see what motor was in it? ;-)
>
>> i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
>> improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
>> between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
>> variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
>> therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
>> variance "noise".
>>

>
> Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?
>
> you will get more torque from more displacement.
>




Maybe but torque is a direct result of stroke whereas a short stroker
will enjoy a faster windup...

How's dat fer a daffynishun?

JT


Elmo P. Shagnasty 01-28-2007 05:00 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
In article <Xns98C695078BB76jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?


Absolutely!


Elmo P. Shagnasty 01-28-2007 05:00 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
In article <Xns98C695078BB76jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?


Absolutely!


Elmo P. Shagnasty 01-28-2007 05:00 PM

Re: My Si has a DX motor!
 
In article <Xns98C695078BB76jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> Wasn't it Smokey Yunick who said "there's no substitute for cubic inches"?


Absolutely!



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