Re: Need Alignment After Camber Adjustment?
 

jim beam wrote:
> so get a mustang! it sounds like you're saying that it doesn't pick up
> fast when you try flooring it from low revs. if that's the case, you're
> not using the clutch/gears enough - no honda motor will pick up much
> below 4k. revs, gears and clutch - don't be afraid to use them.

A bit impractical. Aside from the fact that I would never buy a Ford,
I'm not looking to get a new car just because it has more torque. And
again, I'm not talking about "flooring it", I'm talking about
run-of-the-mill town driving. I also understand Honda motors inherently
have all their power in the high-rev ranges, so consider my complaints
rhetorical.

> whatever tire you choose, you want wide, low-pro sticky rubber mounted
> on lightweight wheels if you want to start working on handling. be
> careful about how low-pro you go for road wheels - rim dents are common
> around my neck of the woods because surface conditions are so bad.

I considered wider wheels/tires but decided against it because of the
decreased gas mileage and increased risk of hydroplaning. I also don't
have hundreds of dollars to blow on nice 18 inchers, though that would
be nice. I, too, have heard horror stories about dented rims... the
local shops around me sell insurance policies for rims 19" and over for
this reason.

> which is how far from factory? factory front toe on my civic is 0, +/-
> 2. that's a wide spec!

Total OEM front toe is 2mm (0.08in), but makes no specification about
max allowance. Front camber is 0°, +/- 3' and rear camber is 1° 3',
+/- 3'.

> go ahead and play around with this stuff since you want to experiment.
> but like i told you right at the start, if you're serious about
> handling, you'll get a car with wishbones. the dilemma any low end
> performance enthusiast has is how to get a car that handles and goes
> fast. mustangs are plenty fast, but lack handling. wishbone hondas
> handle, but aren't that fast, stock. it is however much easier to get a
> wishbone honda to go fast than it is to get a mustang to handle, which
> is why so many people go for the wishbone honda. with respect to your
> mcpherson civic, it's tough to do either. again, if i were faced with
> your situation, i'd sell the 06 and go for the larry widmer solution.

Again, I'm not looking to turn my car into a performance machine. I
just wanna optimize the equipment I have right now, and possibly do
some low-cost modification. If I wanted a full double-wishbone car with
serious power, I'd buy an S2000... Mustangs can't hold a candle to the
overall package the S2000 offers. Their V8 GTs are powerful, but have
nothing else going for them.

Re: Need Alignment After Camber Adjustment?
 

On 9 Sep 2006 16:22:23 -0700, televascular wrote:

> jim beam wrote:
>> so get a mustang! it sounds like you're saying that it doesn't pick up
>> fast when you try flooring it from low revs. if that's the case, you're
>> not using the clutch/gears enough - no honda motor will pick up much
>> below 4k. revs, gears and clutch - don't be afraid to use them.
>
> A bit impractical. Aside from the fact that I would never buy a Ford,
> I'm not looking to get a new car just because it has more torque. And
> again, I'm not talking about "flooring it", I'm talking about
> run-of-the-mill town driving. I also understand Honda motors inherently
> have all their power in the high-rev ranges, so consider my complaints
> rhetorical.

For "run-of-the-mill town driving" you should already be fine. You
shouldn't be racing to the next red light or stop sign, anyhow. It is very
dangerous.

The thing does 0-60 in under 7 seconds. That is plenty more than you
should ever need around town... I find I have to concentrate to slow it
down around the city. I wouldn't really care to have more power in that
situation.


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http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 9/11/2006 5:39:19 AM
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movie will give kids a mistaken impression. What about the fact that the
dinosaurs are singing and dancing?
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Re: Need Alignment After Camber Adjustment?
 

On 9 Sep 2006 16:22:23 -0700, televascular wrote:

> jim beam wrote:
>> so get a mustang! it sounds like you're saying that it doesn't pick up
>> fast when you try flooring it from low revs. if that's the case, you're
>> not using the clutch/gears enough - no honda motor will pick up much
>> below 4k. revs, gears and clutch - don't be afraid to use them.
>
> A bit impractical. Aside from the fact that I would never buy a Ford,
> I'm not looking to get a new car just because it has more torque. And
> again, I'm not talking about "flooring it", I'm talking about
> run-of-the-mill town driving. I also understand Honda motors inherently
> have all their power in the high-rev ranges, so consider my complaints
> rhetorical.

For "run-of-the-mill town driving" you should already be fine. You
shouldn't be racing to the next red light or stop sign, anyhow. It is very
dangerous.

The thing does 0-60 in under 7 seconds. That is plenty more than you
should ever need around town... I find I have to concentrate to slow it
down around the city. I wouldn't really care to have more power in that
situation.


--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 9/11/2006 5:39:19 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

Scientists are complaining that the new Dinosaur movie shows dinosaurs with
lemurs, who didn't evolve for another million years. They're afraid the
movie will give kids a mistaken impression. What about the fact that the
dinosaurs are singing and dancing?
--Jay Leno

Re: Need Alignment After Camber Adjustment?
 

On 9 Sep 2006 16:22:23 -0700, televascular wrote:

> jim beam wrote:
>> so get a mustang! it sounds like you're saying that it doesn't pick up
>> fast when you try flooring it from low revs. if that's the case, you're
>> not using the clutch/gears enough - no honda motor will pick up much
>> below 4k. revs, gears and clutch - don't be afraid to use them.
>
> A bit impractical. Aside from the fact that I would never buy a Ford,
> I'm not looking to get a new car just because it has more torque. And
> again, I'm not talking about "flooring it", I'm talking about
> run-of-the-mill town driving. I also understand Honda motors inherently
> have all their power in the high-rev ranges, so consider my complaints
> rhetorical.

For "run-of-the-mill town driving" you should already be fine. You
shouldn't be racing to the next red light or stop sign, anyhow. It is very
dangerous.

The thing does 0-60 in under 7 seconds. That is plenty more than you
should ever need around town... I find I have to concentrate to slow it
down around the city. I wouldn't really care to have more power in that
situation.


--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 9/11/2006 5:39:19 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

Scientists are complaining that the new Dinosaur movie shows dinosaurs with
lemurs, who didn't evolve for another million years. They're afraid the
movie will give kids a mistaken impression. What about the fact that the
dinosaurs are singing and dancing?
--Jay Leno