jim beam

Dufus Systems wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
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>>Stephen H wrote:
>>
>>>I perform about 150-200 alignments a year, seldom are they dangerous
>>>on the road prior to the job.
>>
>>maybe not pottering about town or straight line on a freeway, but i
>>assure you, if the rear alignment on a civic is out, it radically
>>affects cornering stability - it makes a huge difference to the
>>adhesion limit and therefore can significantly reduce cornering speed.
>> do the experiments yourself some time.
>>
>
>
> In principal I agree but, how many people actually drive 9-10ths on the
> road? I think alignment guy's speaking of normal drivers.

but how many accidents occur at any less than 9/10th's? /and/ adhesion
limit depends on alignment!

>
> In the back and front on normal honda's, the only adjustment is toe (how
> pointed in the tires are to each other). In the front, if the caster's off
> you actually have to loosen and move the entire subframe fore and aft
> (which means effectively it's not adjultable) . Camber's completely not
> adjustable. If you have bad camber, you've either lowered the car or
> something's bent.

right, but if it's bent, straighten it! that's why we check these things!

>
> You can put adjustable parts in, if you want to change the camber, upper
> control arm's in the back and front can be replaced with adjustable ones.

unless the car's lowered and as long as the bushings are factory,
standard settings are fine.

Stephen H

yet OTOH, I've only seen a few punctures on the Prius/Potenza Combo...
Perhaps you just had a string of bad luck?
But seriously, When the Prius came out it was pointed out that the tires had
a heaver load rating than Standard Potenza's--We had to order extras in. We
saw a lot of premature wear on those tires, not lasting near as long as
needed, so the BOSS suggested bumping the pressure up a bit (34psi I
believe) and the wear slowed down. A local shop put a Toyo on the car and
when the dealer saw it they suggested the car be towed to a good tire shop
to have a proper tire with the adequate load rating put on.


Now this is all fine and dandy; and mind you this is Toyota thought process
not my personal thought. Just be sure the Pirellis are rated for that car.


--
Stephen W. Hansen
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
ASE Undercar Specialist

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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> "Stephen H" <hansensw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I hate Michelins only because thy have a stiff sidewall and are hard to
>> remove from the rim sometimes. But as far as being "nail magnets" it
>> seems as though all tires are equal. We do see more nails and flats in
>> tires that are 80% worn...
>>
> Our Prius came with Potenza tires, which have a treadwear rating of 160
> (!) - those really were "nail magnets." We had more punctures with those
> in two years than we had altogether in a 2-car family for more than 20
> years. I think the soft compound let road debris get a perch and work its
> way into the tire. The Pirellis we put on haven't had a puncture yet.
>
> Mike
>