Robin

In article <A0uJb.141206$ss5.3278@clgrps13>, "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com>
wrote:

> Well, i only bought the car last month and i already have a major problem
> with it. It is a 2004 honda civic lx automatic transmission. When i
> accellerate from a full stop, the car accellerates for a second, then loses
> all power and hesitates for about a second, then resumes normal pick up.
> Honda has not taken me serious at all, infact the top mechanic (foreman) at
> Alberta Honda, in edmonton, alberta, told me that i should just wait another
> 1000km and see if the problem works itself out. he felt that the car may
> still be breaking in seeing as it only has 554Km on it. Well, i thought
> that was bull , and tonight the car almost killed me, i was making a
> left hand turn and my car lost all power in the middle of the intersection
> and i litterly sat there for what felt like a lifetime before my car decided
> to move... by which point the light had changed and cars were beeping at me.
> My advise.... DO NOT EVER by a honda product... They sell juunk and obvoisly
> they have no intention of honoring their warranties. If you want an import
> stick with toyota!!!
> "Robin" <robinxjoy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:robinxjoy-3581AD.10270601012004@news.west.***.net...
> > Also, have your dealers been responsive and fixed problems quickly? Have
> > the dealers charged you to diagnose the problem? If under warranty, did
> > it go smoothly?
> > Thx
> >
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>
>

Ron,
My heart goes out to you. I owned a 1998 Accord EXL V6,and three years
later, got another one just like it. I've never had any problems and
assumed all Honda owners were enjoying the same experience. My lease is
up in a few months so considering what to do. I wanted to save some
money this year, so have been considering the (ok, here come the hisses
and boo's) a Hyundai Sonata LX, which is about $6000 less, which means
easier to buy, rather than lease (Yes, I know, it has no resale value).
So, I've been looking for feedback on Hyundai. On the consumer sites,
most people say stay away from it. On the Hyundai newsgroup, most
people are happy, some have 2-3 within the immediate family (spanning
over several years, not just new cars now) and have no regrets, many,
but not all,have had to get mostly minor warranty repairs, such as a
dome light or other minor electrical problem. Short battery life seems
to be a common problem there. There have been a few who said they
wouldn't do it again, just like you said you wouldn't buy Honda again.
Probably the sagest advice came from someone who said with every
manufacturer, you win some, you lose some. I have to consider that I
would minimize the chances of getting a problem car by going Honda
again. It looks like on this one, you lost. I do hope you can get this
resolved quickly and easily, and find you come to enjoy your car from
this point forward.
Robin

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Robin

In article <A0uJb.141206$ss5.3278@clgrps13>, "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com>
wrote:

> Well, i only bought the car last month and i already have a major problem
> with it. It is a 2004 honda civic lx automatic transmission. When i
> accellerate from a full stop, the car accellerates for a second, then loses
> all power and hesitates for about a second, then resumes normal pick up.
> Honda has not taken me serious at all, infact the top mechanic (foreman) at
> Alberta Honda, in edmonton, alberta, told me that i should just wait another
> 1000km and see if the problem works itself out. he felt that the car may
> still be breaking in seeing as it only has 554Km on it. Well, i thought
> that was bull , and tonight the car almost killed me, i was making a
> left hand turn and my car lost all power in the middle of the intersection
> and i litterly sat there for what felt like a lifetime before my car decided
> to move... by which point the light had changed and cars were beeping at me.
> My advise.... DO NOT EVER by a honda product... They sell juunk and obvoisly
> they have no intention of honoring their warranties. If you want an import
> stick with toyota!!!
> "Robin" <robinxjoy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:robinxjoy-3581AD.10270601012004@news.west.***.net...
> > Also, have your dealers been responsive and fixed problems quickly? Have
> > the dealers charged you to diagnose the problem? If under warranty, did
> > it go smoothly?
> > Thx
> >
> > --
> > Do not email if posting response. To email, replace x with 4
>
>

Ron,
My heart goes out to you. I owned a 1998 Accord EXL V6,and three years
later, got another one just like it. I've never had any problems and
assumed all Honda owners were enjoying the same experience. My lease is
up in a few months so considering what to do. I wanted to save some
money this year, so have been considering the (ok, here come the hisses
and boo's) a Hyundai Sonata LX, which is about $6000 less, which means
easier to buy, rather than lease (Yes, I know, it has no resale value).
So, I've been looking for feedback on Hyundai. On the consumer sites,
most people say stay away from it. On the Hyundai newsgroup, most
people are happy, some have 2-3 within the immediate family (spanning
over several years, not just new cars now) and have no regrets, many,
but not all,have had to get mostly minor warranty repairs, such as a
dome light or other minor electrical problem. Short battery life seems
to be a common problem there. There have been a few who said they
wouldn't do it again, just like you said you wouldn't buy Honda again.
Probably the sagest advice came from someone who said with every
manufacturer, you win some, you lose some. I have to consider that I
would minimize the chances of getting a problem car by going Honda
again. It looks like on this one, you lost. I do hope you can get this
resolved quickly and easily, and find you come to enjoy your car from
this point forward.
Robin

--
Do not email if posting response. To email, replace x with 4

Keith J

I watched a Car & Driver show recently and they were talking to the Hyundai
management. They are (or already have) opening a plant someplace in Alabama
or Mississippi that will be almost completely automated. They have a goal
to be the #1 import car manufacturer (Honda/Toyota/Nissan/etc.) by 2020.
Their claim for the much higher warranty is that there car is made better
and can last without costing the company on warranty work. It was
interesting as they definitely have a plan.

Two years ago, I helped a girlfriend while she was looking for a new car.
She wanted to look at the Hyundai Elantra 5-speed. I said to myself...
piece of crap deathtrap! But I was pleasantly surprised with the standard
list that was optional on the Honda/Toyota (sunroof/etc.). Even the door
closed without the hollow sound. But as we can all say, yeah they give you
more stuff but it's still just crap. Well, no. It drove very smoothly and
seemed to be put together fairly well. After the test drive I got out and
had to step back and look at it again... yes with a slight smile.

Keith
'99 Accord V6




>
> Ron,
> My heart goes out to you. I owned a 1998 Accord EXL V6,and three years
> later, got another one just like it. I've never had any problems and
> assumed all Honda owners were enjoying the same experience. My lease is
> up in a few months so considering what to do. I wanted to save some
> money this year, so have been considering the (ok, here come the hisses
> and boo's) a Hyundai Sonata LX, which is about $6000 less, which means
> easier to buy, rather than lease (Yes, I know, it has no resale value).
> So, I've been looking for feedback on Hyundai. On the consumer sites,
> most people say stay away from it. On the Hyundai newsgroup, most
> people are happy, some have 2-3 within the immediate family (spanning
> over several years, not just new cars now) and have no regrets, many,
> but not all,have had to get mostly minor warranty repairs, such as a
> dome light or other minor electrical problem. Short battery life seems
> to be a common problem there. There have been a few who said they
> wouldn't do it again, just like you said you wouldn't buy Honda again.
> Probably the sagest advice came from someone who said with every
> manufacturer, you win some, you lose some. I have to consider that I
> would minimize the chances of getting a problem car by going Honda
> again. It looks like on this one, you lost. I do hope you can get this
> resolved quickly and easily, and find you come to enjoy your car from
> this point forward.
> Robin
>
> --
> Do not email if posting response. To email, replace x with 4

Keith J

I watched a Car & Driver show recently and they were talking to the Hyundai
management. They are (or already have) opening a plant someplace in Alabama
or Mississippi that will be almost completely automated. They have a goal
to be the #1 import car manufacturer (Honda/Toyota/Nissan/etc.) by 2020.
Their claim for the much higher warranty is that there car is made better
and can last without costing the company on warranty work. It was
interesting as they definitely have a plan.

Two years ago, I helped a girlfriend while she was looking for a new car.
She wanted to look at the Hyundai Elantra 5-speed. I said to myself...
piece of crap deathtrap! But I was pleasantly surprised with the standard
list that was optional on the Honda/Toyota (sunroof/etc.). Even the door
closed without the hollow sound. But as we can all say, yeah they give you
more stuff but it's still just crap. Well, no. It drove very smoothly and
seemed to be put together fairly well. After the test drive I got out and
had to step back and look at it again... yes with a slight smile.

Keith
'99 Accord V6




>
> Ron,
> My heart goes out to you. I owned a 1998 Accord EXL V6,and three years
> later, got another one just like it. I've never had any problems and
> assumed all Honda owners were enjoying the same experience. My lease is
> up in a few months so considering what to do. I wanted to save some
> money this year, so have been considering the (ok, here come the hisses
> and boo's) a Hyundai Sonata LX, which is about $6000 less, which means
> easier to buy, rather than lease (Yes, I know, it has no resale value).
> So, I've been looking for feedback on Hyundai. On the consumer sites,
> most people say stay away from it. On the Hyundai newsgroup, most
> people are happy, some have 2-3 within the immediate family (spanning
> over several years, not just new cars now) and have no regrets, many,
> but not all,have had to get mostly minor warranty repairs, such as a
> dome light or other minor electrical problem. Short battery life seems
> to be a common problem there. There have been a few who said they
> wouldn't do it again, just like you said you wouldn't buy Honda again.
> Probably the sagest advice came from someone who said with every
> manufacturer, you win some, you lose some. I have to consider that I
> would minimize the chances of getting a problem car by going Honda
> again. It looks like on this one, you lost. I do hope you can get this
> resolved quickly and easily, and find you come to enjoy your car from
> this point forward.
> Robin
>
> --
> Do not email if posting response. To email, replace x with 4

Keith J

I watched a Car & Driver show recently and they were talking to the Hyundai
management. They are (or already have) opening a plant someplace in Alabama
or Mississippi that will be almost completely automated. They have a goal
to be the #1 import car manufacturer (Honda/Toyota/Nissan/etc.) by 2020.
Their claim for the much higher warranty is that there car is made better
and can last without costing the company on warranty work. It was
interesting as they definitely have a plan.

Two years ago, I helped a girlfriend while she was looking for a new car.
She wanted to look at the Hyundai Elantra 5-speed. I said to myself...
piece of crap deathtrap! But I was pleasantly surprised with the standard
list that was optional on the Honda/Toyota (sunroof/etc.). Even the door
closed without the hollow sound. But as we can all say, yeah they give you
more stuff but it's still just crap. Well, no. It drove very smoothly and
seemed to be put together fairly well. After the test drive I got out and
had to step back and look at it again... yes with a slight smile.

Keith
'99 Accord V6




>
> Ron,
> My heart goes out to you. I owned a 1998 Accord EXL V6,and three years
> later, got another one just like it. I've never had any problems and
> assumed all Honda owners were enjoying the same experience. My lease is
> up in a few months so considering what to do. I wanted to save some
> money this year, so have been considering the (ok, here come the hisses
> and boo's) a Hyundai Sonata LX, which is about $6000 less, which means
> easier to buy, rather than lease (Yes, I know, it has no resale value).
> So, I've been looking for feedback on Hyundai. On the consumer sites,
> most people say stay away from it. On the Hyundai newsgroup, most
> people are happy, some have 2-3 within the immediate family (spanning
> over several years, not just new cars now) and have no regrets, many,
> but not all,have had to get mostly minor warranty repairs, such as a
> dome light or other minor electrical problem. Short battery life seems
> to be a common problem there. There have been a few who said they
> wouldn't do it again, just like you said you wouldn't buy Honda again.
> Probably the sagest advice came from someone who said with every
> manufacturer, you win some, you lose some. I have to consider that I
> would minimize the chances of getting a problem car by going Honda
> again. It looks like on this one, you lost. I do hope you can get this
> resolved quickly and easily, and find you come to enjoy your car from
> this point forward.
> Robin
>
> --
> Do not email if posting response. To email, replace x with 4