Re: non-interference engine
 

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:22:47 -0400, High Tech Misfit wrote:

> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>
>> The salesman that sold me my 06 Si said that it was a timing belt, and the
>> scheduled maintenance for it was 100K. Is that incorrect?
>
> It is incorrect. It uses a timing chain.

Thanks.

Does this mean that there is no scheduled maintenance for the chain?

If so, it looks like just fluids, brakes and 100K tune-ups. Not bad for
maintenance costs...

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Re: non-interference engine
 

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
<jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

>
>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>tell.
>
>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>It really isn't their job.

Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
up.

Re: non-interference engine
 

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
<jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

>
>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>tell.
>
>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>It really isn't their job.

Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
up.

Re: non-interference engine
 

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
<jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

>
>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>tell.
>
>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>It really isn't their job.

Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
up.

Re: non-interference engine
 

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
<jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

>
>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>tell.
>
>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>It really isn't their job.

Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
up.

Re: non-interference engine
 

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:56 GMT, Gordon McGrew wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>>tell.
>>
>>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>>It really isn't their job.
>
> Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
> up.

That depends on the technicality of the questions.

Salesmen are not mechanics. A good salesman will often have you wait while
he gets the answer for you, but there are very few of those in the world.
Especially with the fear that you'll leave while waiting, or consider their
need to seek help a problem.

In my industry (server/networking engineer), we find this all the time.
Our salespeople often sell things that are damned near ridiculous, and rely
on us to make it happen. We try to make them better, but the allure of the
almighty buck is a great barrier.

As I said, this was the best sales experience I have ever had. And Honda's
always had a belt before. So his not knowing off-hand about a single
technical change, from a sales standpoint, is inconsequential. Especially
since he got the sale, anyhow... ;-)

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/19/2006 1:42:12 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

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Re: non-interference engine
 

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:56 GMT, Gordon McGrew wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>>tell.
>>
>>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>>It really isn't their job.
>
> Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
> up.

That depends on the technicality of the questions.

Salesmen are not mechanics. A good salesman will often have you wait while
he gets the answer for you, but there are very few of those in the world.
Especially with the fear that you'll leave while waiting, or consider their
need to seek help a problem.

In my industry (server/networking engineer), we find this all the time.
Our salespeople often sell things that are damned near ridiculous, and rely
on us to make it happen. We try to make them better, but the allure of the
almighty buck is a great barrier.

As I said, this was the best sales experience I have ever had. And Honda's
always had a belt before. So his not knowing off-hand about a single
technical change, from a sales standpoint, is inconsequential. Especially
since he got the sale, anyhow... ;-)

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/19/2006 1:42:12 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

¡§I never trusted a man who never smoked or drank.¡¨ ¡V Abraham Lincoln.

Re: non-interference engine
 

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:56 GMT, Gordon McGrew wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>>tell.
>>
>>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>>It really isn't their job.
>
> Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
> up.

That depends on the technicality of the questions.

Salesmen are not mechanics. A good salesman will often have you wait while
he gets the answer for you, but there are very few of those in the world.
Especially with the fear that you'll leave while waiting, or consider their
need to seek help a problem.

In my industry (server/networking engineer), we find this all the time.
Our salespeople often sell things that are damned near ridiculous, and rely
on us to make it happen. We try to make them better, but the allure of the
almighty buck is a great barrier.

As I said, this was the best sales experience I have ever had. And Honda's
always had a belt before. So his not knowing off-hand about a single
technical change, from a sales standpoint, is inconsequential. Especially
since he got the sale, anyhow... ;-)

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/19/2006 1:42:12 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

¡§I never trusted a man who never smoked or drank.¡¨ ¡V Abraham Lincoln.

Re: non-interference engine
 

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:04:56 GMT, Gordon McGrew wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:37:04 -0400, Joe LaVigne
> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>The manual doesn't mention the timing belt or chain at all, so far as I can
>>tell.
>>
>>I have never expected a salesman to be extremely knowledgeable about cars.
>>It really isn't their job.
>
> Of course it is their job. It's just easier to guess or make stuff
> up.

That depends on the technicality of the questions.

Salesmen are not mechanics. A good salesman will often have you wait while
he gets the answer for you, but there are very few of those in the world.
Especially with the fear that you'll leave while waiting, or consider their
need to seek help a problem.

In my industry (server/networking engineer), we find this all the time.
Our salespeople often sell things that are damned near ridiculous, and rely
on us to make it happen. We try to make them better, but the allure of the
almighty buck is a great barrier.

As I said, this was the best sales experience I have ever had. And Honda's
always had a belt before. So his not knowing off-hand about a single
technical change, from a sales standpoint, is inconsequential. Especially
since he got the sale, anyhow... ;-)

--
Joseph M. LaVigne
jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com
http://www.thelavignefamily.us/MyPipePages/ - 8/19/2006 1:42:12 AM
Tobacconist Brick and Mortar Database: http://bam.tobaccocellar.org/

¡§I never trusted a man who never smoked or drank.¡¨ ¡V Abraham Lincoln.