Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Bill Radio wrote:
> > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
acheive
> > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is
the
> > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar
3-4%
> > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
> > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window,
> > anyway.
> >
> > Anyone else question their odometer?
> >
> > Bill Radio
> >
> >
> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the
> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are
> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll.

An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting
higher mileage than is accurately on the car.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Bill Radio wrote:
>>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
> acheive
>>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is
> the
>>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar
> 3-4%
>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window,
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Anyone else question their odometer?
>>>
>>> Bill Radio
>>>
>>>
>> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the
>> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are
>> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll.
>
> An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting
> higher mileage than is accurately on the car.
>
>
1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy.
2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate.

makes no sense.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Bill Radio wrote:
>>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
> acheive
>>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is
> the
>>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar
> 3-4%
>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window,
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Anyone else question their odometer?
>>>
>>> Bill Radio
>>>
>>>
>> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the
>> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are
>> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll.
>
> An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting
> higher mileage than is accurately on the car.
>
>
1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy.
2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate.

makes no sense.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Bill Radio wrote:
>>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
> acheive
>>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is
> the
>>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar
> 3-4%
>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window,
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Anyone else question their odometer?
>>>
>>> Bill Radio
>>>
>>>
>> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the
>> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are
>> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll.
>
> An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting
> higher mileage than is accurately on the car.
>
>
1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy.
2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate.

makes no sense.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Bill Radio wrote:
>>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
> acheive
>>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is
> the
>>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar
> 3-4%
>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window,
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> Anyone else question their odometer?
>>>
>>> Bill Radio
>>>
>>>
>> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the
>> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are
>> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll.
>
> An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting
> higher mileage than is accurately on the car.
>
>
1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy.
2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate.

makes no sense.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in
news:12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com:

> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
> acheive Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05
> Accord is the most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that
> has a similar 3-4% error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm
> wondering how common a problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it
> all goes out the window, anyway.
>
> Anyone else question their odometer?
>
> Bill Radio
>
>

Well, enjoy the 5% warranty boost.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in
news:12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com:

> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
> acheive Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05
> Accord is the most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that
> has a similar 3-4% error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm
> wondering how common a problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it
> all goes out the window, anyway.
>
> Anyone else question their odometer?
>
> Bill Radio
>
>

Well, enjoy the 5% warranty boost.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in
news:12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com:

> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will
> acheive Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05
> Accord is the most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that
> has a similar 3-4% error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm
> wondering how common a problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it
> all goes out the window, anyway.
>
> Anyone else question their odometer?
>
> Bill Radio
>
>

Well, enjoy the 5% warranty boost.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:

> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4%
> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
> problem is this?

Apparently very common.

Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my
92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast,
no matter what.

Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell
it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove
years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94
behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:

> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4%
> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
> problem is this?

Apparently very common.

Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my
92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast,
no matter what.

Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell
it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove
years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94
behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:

> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4%
> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
> problem is this?

Apparently very common.

Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my
92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast,
no matter what.

Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell
it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove
years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94
behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:
>
>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4%
>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>> problem is this?
>
> Apparently very common.
>
> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my
> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast,
> no matter what.
>
> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell
> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove
> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94
> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did.
>
it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%.
almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others.
[bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where
there is no legal accuracy requirement.]

the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast".
[faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...]
cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference
to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:
>
>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4%
>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>> problem is this?
>
> Apparently very common.
>
> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my
> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast,
> no matter what.
>
> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell
> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove
> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94
> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did.
>
it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%.
almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others.
[bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where
there is no legal accuracy requirement.]

the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast".
[faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...]
cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference
to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:
>
>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4%
>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>> problem is this?
>
> Apparently very common.
>
> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my
> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast,
> no matter what.
>
> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell
> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove
> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94
> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did.
>
it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%.
almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others.
[bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where
there is no legal accuracy requirement.]

the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast".
[faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...]
cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference
to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem.

Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
 

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:10 -0800, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
>> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4%
>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a
>>> problem is this?
>>
>> Apparently very common.
>>
>> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my
>> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast,
>> no matter what.
>>
>> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell
>> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove
>> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94
>> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did.
>>
>it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%.
>almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others.
> [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where
>there is no legal accuracy requirement.]
>
>the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast".
>[faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...]
>cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference
>to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem.

The issue is really the odometer which does cost money by accelerating
depreciation, maintenance intervals, trade-in intervals and warranty
expiration. The odometer and speedometer do not necessarily have the
same error.