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JoeSpareBedroom 02-14-2007 06:04 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
"Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1tMAh.4159$E71.1274@trnddc04...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8pMAh.2768$B25.588@news01.roc.ny...
> <...>
>
>>> None of these people are too stupid to use a spoon. And obviously smart
>>> enough to drive a car.

>>
>>
>> Smart enough to pass a driving test which checks about 2% of the skills
>> needed to drive a car.

>
> Don't complain here. Complain to your state representatives and ask that
> they change the test.


My son almost didn't pass my test, but because he is the NEXT highway god
(after I'm gone), I gave him lots of extra attention. Nobody else would pass
my test.



>>> And many tailgater older and/or male.

>>
>> Pay close attention to the age & gender of the next 100 people who
>> tailgate you, even if it means pulling to the side of local streets so
>> you can look in their cars. The vast majority are young women. I don't
>> know why.

>
> You appear to be making the false assumption that I don't see who is
> tailgating other drivers or myself.


Logic bomb. If you were paying attention, you'd see that I was correct.
Therefore, you are not paying attention. I don't like the gender-heavy idea
either, but it *is* factual.



>>>> I say 90%. My son says 95%. Take your pick. If you haven't noticed,
>>>> it's time to notice. And, you *know* that driving exams are a crock.
>>>> Parallel parking means you're qualified to drive on a highway in the
>>>> snow? I think not.
>>>
>>> If people are as stupid as you say, they would kill themselves (and
>>> everyone else). While the death rate is too high, it is not nearly as
>>> high as your figures would suggest.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>>
>> With all due respect, you are phenomenally wrong in your observations.
>> I'd still let you borrow my lawnmower if you were my neighbor, but you
>> need to be more observant of what really goes on around you on the roads.

>
> Well, we will have to disagree about that. I do watch what goes on.



Don't start with me, Jeff. I have 3 feet of snow in my driveway and I am
not in the mood for nonsense. :-)



JoeSpareBedroom 02-14-2007 06:04 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
"Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1tMAh.4159$E71.1274@trnddc04...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8pMAh.2768$B25.588@news01.roc.ny...
> <...>
>
>>> None of these people are too stupid to use a spoon. And obviously smart
>>> enough to drive a car.

>>
>>
>> Smart enough to pass a driving test which checks about 2% of the skills
>> needed to drive a car.

>
> Don't complain here. Complain to your state representatives and ask that
> they change the test.


My son almost didn't pass my test, but because he is the NEXT highway god
(after I'm gone), I gave him lots of extra attention. Nobody else would pass
my test.



>>> And many tailgater older and/or male.

>>
>> Pay close attention to the age & gender of the next 100 people who
>> tailgate you, even if it means pulling to the side of local streets so
>> you can look in their cars. The vast majority are young women. I don't
>> know why.

>
> You appear to be making the false assumption that I don't see who is
> tailgating other drivers or myself.


Logic bomb. If you were paying attention, you'd see that I was correct.
Therefore, you are not paying attention. I don't like the gender-heavy idea
either, but it *is* factual.



>>>> I say 90%. My son says 95%. Take your pick. If you haven't noticed,
>>>> it's time to notice. And, you *know* that driving exams are a crock.
>>>> Parallel parking means you're qualified to drive on a highway in the
>>>> snow? I think not.
>>>
>>> If people are as stupid as you say, they would kill themselves (and
>>> everyone else). While the death rate is too high, it is not nearly as
>>> high as your figures would suggest.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>>
>> With all due respect, you are phenomenally wrong in your observations.
>> I'd still let you borrow my lawnmower if you were my neighbor, but you
>> need to be more observant of what really goes on around you on the roads.

>
> Well, we will have to disagree about that. I do watch what goes on.



Don't start with me, Jeff. I have 3 feet of snow in my driveway and I am
not in the mood for nonsense. :-)



dbu,. 02-14-2007 06:10 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
In article <8pMAh.2768$B25.588@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:TbMAh.4154$E71.3327@trnddc04...
> >
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:L%LAh.2766$B25.2285@news01.roc.ny...
> >> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lXLAh.4149$E71.2334@trnddc04...
> >>
> >>>> Between 90% and 95% of drivers are either drunk, legally blind,
> >>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a spoon, much less a car. How
> >>>> do we get rid of them so composite (less safe) vehicles have a fighting
> >>>> chance? That would be tough because of:
> >>>
> >>> While too many drivers are drunk, the number of people who are in the
> >>> above catagories is rather small.
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, wrong. Add together the various categories:
> >>
> >> - Elderly drivers with failed peripheral vision, driving while terrified.

> >
> > Not legally blind.
> >
> >> - Drunks (all day long - alcoholics often start early)

> >
> > Small protion, maybe 5%.
> >> - People distracted by cell phones and other bullshit toys
> >> - People reading maps, newspaper, etc (yeah...newspapers - I've seen it.)
> >> - People with zero sense of the physics of cars, especially in adverse
> >> conditions.
> >> - People who never check their tire inflation
> >> - People who think red lights, yield signs and stop signs are for others
> >> - Tailgaters (almost all young women)

> >
> > None of these people are too stupid to use a spoon. And obviously smart
> > enough to drive a car.

>
>
> Smart enough to pass a driving test which checks about 2% of the skills
> needed to drive a car.
>
>
> > And many tailgater older and/or male.

>
> Pay close attention to the age & gender of the next 100 people who tailgate
> you, even if it means pulling to the side of local streets so you can look
> in their cars. The vast majority are young women. I don't know why.
>
>
> >> I say 90%. My son says 95%. Take your pick. If you haven't noticed, it's
> >> time to notice. And, you *know* that driving exams are a crock. Parallel
> >> parking means you're qualified to drive on a highway in the snow? I think
> >> not.

> >
> > If people are as stupid as you say, they would kill themselves (and
> > everyone else). While the death rate is too high, it is not nearly as high
> > as your figures would suggest.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Jeff

>
>
> With all due respect, you are phenomenally wrong in your observations. I'd
> still let you borrow my lawnmower if you were my neighbor, but you need to
> be more observant of what really goes on around you on the roads.


Like I've mentioned to a couple others, Joe is a couple bubbles off the
center.
--


dbu,. 02-14-2007 06:10 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
In article <8pMAh.2768$B25.588@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:TbMAh.4154$E71.3327@trnddc04...
> >
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:L%LAh.2766$B25.2285@news01.roc.ny...
> >> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lXLAh.4149$E71.2334@trnddc04...
> >>
> >>>> Between 90% and 95% of drivers are either drunk, legally blind,
> >>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a spoon, much less a car. How
> >>>> do we get rid of them so composite (less safe) vehicles have a fighting
> >>>> chance? That would be tough because of:
> >>>
> >>> While too many drivers are drunk, the number of people who are in the
> >>> above catagories is rather small.
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, wrong. Add together the various categories:
> >>
> >> - Elderly drivers with failed peripheral vision, driving while terrified.

> >
> > Not legally blind.
> >
> >> - Drunks (all day long - alcoholics often start early)

> >
> > Small protion, maybe 5%.
> >> - People distracted by cell phones and other bullshit toys
> >> - People reading maps, newspaper, etc (yeah...newspapers - I've seen it.)
> >> - People with zero sense of the physics of cars, especially in adverse
> >> conditions.
> >> - People who never check their tire inflation
> >> - People who think red lights, yield signs and stop signs are for others
> >> - Tailgaters (almost all young women)

> >
> > None of these people are too stupid to use a spoon. And obviously smart
> > enough to drive a car.

>
>
> Smart enough to pass a driving test which checks about 2% of the skills
> needed to drive a car.
>
>
> > And many tailgater older and/or male.

>
> Pay close attention to the age & gender of the next 100 people who tailgate
> you, even if it means pulling to the side of local streets so you can look
> in their cars. The vast majority are young women. I don't know why.
>
>
> >> I say 90%. My son says 95%. Take your pick. If you haven't noticed, it's
> >> time to notice. And, you *know* that driving exams are a crock. Parallel
> >> parking means you're qualified to drive on a highway in the snow? I think
> >> not.

> >
> > If people are as stupid as you say, they would kill themselves (and
> > everyone else). While the death rate is too high, it is not nearly as high
> > as your figures would suggest.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Jeff

>
>
> With all due respect, you are phenomenally wrong in your observations. I'd
> still let you borrow my lawnmower if you were my neighbor, but you need to
> be more observant of what really goes on around you on the roads.


Like I've mentioned to a couple others, Joe is a couple bubbles off the
center.
--


dbu,. 02-14-2007 06:10 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
In article <8pMAh.2768$B25.588@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:TbMAh.4154$E71.3327@trnddc04...
> >
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:L%LAh.2766$B25.2285@news01.roc.ny...
> >> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lXLAh.4149$E71.2334@trnddc04...
> >>
> >>>> Between 90% and 95% of drivers are either drunk, legally blind,
> >>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a spoon, much less a car. How
> >>>> do we get rid of them so composite (less safe) vehicles have a fighting
> >>>> chance? That would be tough because of:
> >>>
> >>> While too many drivers are drunk, the number of people who are in the
> >>> above catagories is rather small.
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, wrong. Add together the various categories:
> >>
> >> - Elderly drivers with failed peripheral vision, driving while terrified.

> >
> > Not legally blind.
> >
> >> - Drunks (all day long - alcoholics often start early)

> >
> > Small protion, maybe 5%.
> >> - People distracted by cell phones and other bullshit toys
> >> - People reading maps, newspaper, etc (yeah...newspapers - I've seen it.)
> >> - People with zero sense of the physics of cars, especially in adverse
> >> conditions.
> >> - People who never check their tire inflation
> >> - People who think red lights, yield signs and stop signs are for others
> >> - Tailgaters (almost all young women)

> >
> > None of these people are too stupid to use a spoon. And obviously smart
> > enough to drive a car.

>
>
> Smart enough to pass a driving test which checks about 2% of the skills
> needed to drive a car.
>
>
> > And many tailgater older and/or male.

>
> Pay close attention to the age & gender of the next 100 people who tailgate
> you, even if it means pulling to the side of local streets so you can look
> in their cars. The vast majority are young women. I don't know why.
>
>
> >> I say 90%. My son says 95%. Take your pick. If you haven't noticed, it's
> >> time to notice. And, you *know* that driving exams are a crock. Parallel
> >> parking means you're qualified to drive on a highway in the snow? I think
> >> not.

> >
> > If people are as stupid as you say, they would kill themselves (and
> > everyone else). While the death rate is too high, it is not nearly as high
> > as your figures would suggest.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Jeff

>
>
> With all due respect, you are phenomenally wrong in your observations. I'd
> still let you borrow my lawnmower if you were my neighbor, but you need to
> be more observant of what really goes on around you on the roads.


Like I've mentioned to a couple others, Joe is a couple bubbles off the
center.
--


dbu,. 02-14-2007 06:10 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
In article <8pMAh.2768$B25.588@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:TbMAh.4154$E71.3327@trnddc04...
> >
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:L%LAh.2766$B25.2285@news01.roc.ny...
> >> "Geoff" <news@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:lXLAh.4149$E71.2334@trnddc04...
> >>
> >>>> Between 90% and 95% of drivers are either drunk, legally blind,
> >>>> clinically dead, or too stupid to operate a spoon, much less a car. How
> >>>> do we get rid of them so composite (less safe) vehicles have a fighting
> >>>> chance? That would be tough because of:
> >>>
> >>> While too many drivers are drunk, the number of people who are in the
> >>> above catagories is rather small.
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, wrong. Add together the various categories:
> >>
> >> - Elderly drivers with failed peripheral vision, driving while terrified.

> >
> > Not legally blind.
> >
> >> - Drunks (all day long - alcoholics often start early)

> >
> > Small protion, maybe 5%.
> >> - People distracted by cell phones and other bullshit toys
> >> - People reading maps, newspaper, etc (yeah...newspapers - I've seen it.)
> >> - People with zero sense of the physics of cars, especially in adverse
> >> conditions.
> >> - People who never check their tire inflation
> >> - People who think red lights, yield signs and stop signs are for others
> >> - Tailgaters (almost all young women)

> >
> > None of these people are too stupid to use a spoon. And obviously smart
> > enough to drive a car.

>
>
> Smart enough to pass a driving test which checks about 2% of the skills
> needed to drive a car.
>
>
> > And many tailgater older and/or male.

>
> Pay close attention to the age & gender of the next 100 people who tailgate
> you, even if it means pulling to the side of local streets so you can look
> in their cars. The vast majority are young women. I don't know why.
>
>
> >> I say 90%. My son says 95%. Take your pick. If you haven't noticed, it's
> >> time to notice. And, you *know* that driving exams are a crock. Parallel
> >> parking means you're qualified to drive on a highway in the snow? I think
> >> not.

> >
> > If people are as stupid as you say, they would kill themselves (and
> > everyone else). While the death rate is too high, it is not nearly as high
> > as your figures would suggest.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Jeff

>
>
> With all due respect, you are phenomenally wrong in your observations. I'd
> still let you borrow my lawnmower if you were my neighbor, but you need to
> be more observant of what really goes on around you on the roads.


Like I've mentioned to a couple others, Joe is a couple bubbles off the
center.
--


Brian Smith 02-14-2007 06:16 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>
> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
> have access to vehicles.


That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
consider operating any one of those vehicles.



Brian Smith 02-14-2007 06:16 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>
> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
> have access to vehicles.


That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
consider operating any one of those vehicles.



Brian Smith 02-14-2007 06:16 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>
> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
> have access to vehicles.


That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
consider operating any one of those vehicles.



Brian Smith 02-14-2007 06:16 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>
> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
> have access to vehicles.


That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
consider operating any one of those vehicles.



JoeSpareBedroom 02-14-2007 06:17 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:XKMAh.76375$Fd.9581@edtnps90...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
>> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
>> have access to vehicles.

>
> That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
> because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
> consider operating any one of those vehicles.



I don't know about Canada, but here (NY), the cops find endless numbers of
people whose licenses have been revoked, but are still driving cars. What do
you do with them up there? Send them to the Inuits for reorientation?



JoeSpareBedroom 02-14-2007 06:17 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:XKMAh.76375$Fd.9581@edtnps90...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
>> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
>> have access to vehicles.

>
> That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
> because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
> consider operating any one of those vehicles.



I don't know about Canada, but here (NY), the cops find endless numbers of
people whose licenses have been revoked, but are still driving cars. What do
you do with them up there? Send them to the Inuits for reorientation?



JoeSpareBedroom 02-14-2007 06:17 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:XKMAh.76375$Fd.9581@edtnps90...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
>> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
>> have access to vehicles.

>
> That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
> because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
> consider operating any one of those vehicles.



I don't know about Canada, but here (NY), the cops find endless numbers of
people whose licenses have been revoked, but are still driving cars. What do
you do with them up there? Send them to the Inuits for reorientation?



JoeSpareBedroom 02-14-2007 06:17 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:XKMAh.76375$Fd.9581@edtnps90...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3eLAh.2851$ya1.1770@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> It's not true, but it would be if I were king. People without licenses
>> still get away with driving. I'd find a way make it harder for them to
>> have access to vehicles.

>
> That doesn't make any sense (although I know what you're saying), just
> because a person owns vehicles doesn't mean that that person would ever
> consider operating any one of those vehicles.



I don't know about Canada, but here (NY), the cops find endless numbers of
people whose licenses have been revoked, but are still driving cars. What do
you do with them up there? Send them to the Inuits for reorientation?



Geoff 02-14-2007 06:34 PM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9AMAh.2860$ya1.2030@news02.roc.ny...
<...>

> Don't start with me, Jeff. I have 3 feet of snow in my driveway and I am
> not in the mood for nonsense. :-)


Based on what you typed, you have plenty of time for nonsense. ;-)

Jeff



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