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SFTVratings 02-14-2007 10:47 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
Geoff wrote:
> ...... Considering that
> the motors only work in an electric car when the engine is working, it
> probably pays off for both the enivronment and in cash for all-electric cars
> with gasoline generators for longer trips (which is what the VW car might
> be).



No. The VW cigar-shaped car/prototype was a conventional diesel
engine. The reason it could get ~250 mpg at highway speeds is because
it was very, very narrow & its Air resistance was almost null.

All they needed was an 8 horsepower engine, which burns very little
fuel.


SFTVratings 02-14-2007 10:47 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
Geoff wrote:
> ...... Considering that
> the motors only work in an electric car when the engine is working, it
> probably pays off for both the enivronment and in cash for all-electric cars
> with gasoline generators for longer trips (which is what the VW car might
> be).



No. The VW cigar-shaped car/prototype was a conventional diesel
engine. The reason it could get ~250 mpg at highway speeds is because
it was very, very narrow & its Air resistance was almost null.

All they needed was an 8 horsepower engine, which burns very little
fuel.


SFTVratings 02-14-2007 10:47 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
Geoff wrote:
> ...... Considering that
> the motors only work in an electric car when the engine is working, it
> probably pays off for both the enivronment and in cash for all-electric cars
> with gasoline generators for longer trips (which is what the VW car might
> be).



No. The VW cigar-shaped car/prototype was a conventional diesel
engine. The reason it could get ~250 mpg at highway speeds is because
it was very, very narrow & its Air resistance was almost null.

All they needed was an 8 horsepower engine, which burns very little
fuel.


Dano 02-14-2007 10:53 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1171452408.323940.77550@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
>>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
>>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
>>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
>>> idea
>>> when you saw it?

>>
>>
>> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
>> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
>> the absence thereof = 0.)
>>

>
>
> Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
>

You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
Re-read the person's post.


Dano 02-14-2007 10:53 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1171452408.323940.77550@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
>>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
>>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
>>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
>>> idea
>>> when you saw it?

>>
>>
>> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
>> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
>> the absence thereof = 0.)
>>

>
>
> Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
>

You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
Re-read the person's post.


Dano 02-14-2007 10:53 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1171452408.323940.77550@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
>>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
>>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
>>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
>>> idea
>>> when you saw it?

>>
>>
>> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
>> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
>> the absence thereof = 0.)
>>

>
>
> Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
>

You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
Re-read the person's post.


Dano 02-14-2007 10:53 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1171452408.323940.77550@p10g2000cwp.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
>>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
>>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
>>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
>>> idea
>>> when you saw it?

>>
>>
>> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
>> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
>> the absence thereof = 0.)
>>

>
>
> Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
>

You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
Re-read the person's post.


cja 02-14-2007 10:59 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
On Feb 14, 9:55 am, "Geoff" <n...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Car and Driver drove a hybrid prius behind a truck that basically eliminated
> all drag. They got around 80 mpg. This was rolling resistance.
>

IIRC, they used a Honda Insight, not a Prius.

- cja




cja 02-14-2007 10:59 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
On Feb 14, 9:55 am, "Geoff" <n...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Car and Driver drove a hybrid prius behind a truck that basically eliminated
> all drag. They got around 80 mpg. This was rolling resistance.
>

IIRC, they used a Honda Insight, not a Prius.

- cja




cja 02-14-2007 10:59 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
On Feb 14, 9:55 am, "Geoff" <n...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Car and Driver drove a hybrid prius behind a truck that basically eliminated
> all drag. They got around 80 mpg. This was rolling resistance.
>

IIRC, they used a Honda Insight, not a Prius.

- cja




cja 02-14-2007 10:59 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
On Feb 14, 9:55 am, "Geoff" <n...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Car and Driver drove a hybrid prius behind a truck that basically eliminated
> all drag. They got around 80 mpg. This was rolling resistance.
>

IIRC, they used a Honda Insight, not a Prius.

- cja




SMS 02-14-2007 11:18 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com wrote:
> Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> doing it (and bragging about it on the television).


They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.

SMS 02-14-2007 11:18 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com wrote:
> Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> doing it (and bragging about it on the television).


They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.

SMS 02-14-2007 11:18 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com wrote:
> Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> doing it (and bragging about it on the television).


They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.

SMS 02-14-2007 11:18 AM

Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
 
SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com wrote:
> Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> doing it (and bragging about it on the television).


They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.


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