Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
vehicle. I want a manual.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

On Sep 28, 9:55 pm, "techtechx...@gmail.com" <techtechx...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual transmission.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

On Sep 28, 9:55 pm, "techtechx...@gmail.com" <techtechx...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual transmission.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups. com>,
"techtechxxxx@gmail.com" <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.

Get the one where you get the best support from the dealer.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups. com>,
"techtechxxxx@gmail.com" <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.

Get the one where you get the best support from the dealer.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.
<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.
<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <WbuLi.1575$yc5.106@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:

> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
> >I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> > looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> > vehicle. I want a manual.
> >
> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.

He posted to all groups.

Face it: all those cars are so similar, it really doesn't matter which
one he gets. He could throw a dart on the wall and end up with a good
car.

What he DOESN'T want is to end up with a good car but absolutely no
support, with a bad dealer who won't fix warranty items and who doesn't
take care of him and his $25,000 purchase.

It all comes down to his support system. Does he have a friend who works
on Hondas? Get a Honda. Is the Honda dealer 50 miles away, but the
Nissan dealer 3 miles away? Does the Nissan dealer have a good
reputation in the community? Yes? Then get the Nissan.

And so on.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <WbuLi.1575$yc5.106@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:

> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
> >I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> > looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> > vehicle. I want a manual.
> >
> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.

He posted to all groups.

Face it: all those cars are so similar, it really doesn't matter which
one he gets. He could throw a dart on the wall and end up with a good
car.

What he DOESN'T want is to end up with a good car but absolutely no
support, with a bad dealer who won't fix warranty items and who doesn't
take care of him and his $25,000 purchase.

It all comes down to his support system. Does he have a friend who works
on Hondas? Get a Honda. Is the Honda dealer 50 miles away, but the
Nissan dealer 3 miles away? Does the Nissan dealer have a good
reputation in the community? Yes? Then get the Nissan.

And so on.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.

4 cylinder or V-6? Coupe or sedan? What are you used to? Fully loaded or
stripped? Of the three you have mentioned, if you are going "cheap" I'd say
Toyota, Honda, Nissan. If you are going more upscale, then I'd go Honda,
Toyota, Nissan. If cost is the main factor, the Nissan might be slightly
cheaper. Looks are subjective, but I like the looks of the Altima Coupe,
then the Accord Coupe. The Camry is that usual Toyota combination of dull
and odd - not bad, but not as good as the others. You should at least test
drive a Ford Fusion (although a manual is only available with the 4
cylinder).

Most cars are reliable these days. You should just test drive a variety of
cars and then by the car you like the best.

Ed

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.

4 cylinder or V-6? Coupe or sedan? What are you used to? Fully loaded or
stripped? Of the three you have mentioned, if you are going "cheap" I'd say
Toyota, Honda, Nissan. If you are going more upscale, then I'd go Honda,
Toyota, Nissan. If cost is the main factor, the Nissan might be slightly
cheaper. Looks are subjective, but I like the looks of the Altima Coupe,
then the Accord Coupe. The Camry is that usual Toyota combination of dull
and odd - not bad, but not as good as the others. You should at least test
drive a Ford Fusion (although a manual is only available with the 4
cylinder).

Most cars are reliable these days. You should just test drive a variety of
cars and then by the car you like the best.

Ed

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <WbuLi.1575$yc5.106@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:
>
>> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>>> I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>>> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>>> vehicle. I want a manual.
>>>
>> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.
>
> He posted to all groups.
>
> Face it: all those cars are so similar, it really doesn't matter which
> one he gets. He could throw a dart on the wall and end up with a good
> car.
>
> What he DOESN'T want is to end up with a good car but absolutely no
> support, with a bad dealer who won't fix warranty items and who doesn't
> take care of him and his $25,000 purchase.
>
> It all comes down to his support system. Does he have a friend who works
> on Hondas? Get a Honda. Is the Honda dealer 50 miles away, but the
> Nissan dealer 3 miles away? Does the Nissan dealer have a good
> reputation in the community? Yes? Then get the Nissan.
>
> And so on.
>

That is exactly why I went with the Honda Accord. The dealership is one
mile from my house and I know the owner's son as well as the service
manager. It is so convenient when I have routine maintenance performed
because I drive it over, and walk home. The last time I walked back to
pick it up, they said they would have drove it to me.... I need the
exercise anyway (ha, ha).

Of course, I got a great deal on the EX L V6 in February '07 because
they sold it to me for $500 below invoice! I wish I could have held out
for an 08, but I needed a car very badly in February.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <WbuLi.1575$yc5.106@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:
>
>> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>>> I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>>> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>>> vehicle. I want a manual.
>>>
>> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.
>
> He posted to all groups.
>
> Face it: all those cars are so similar, it really doesn't matter which
> one he gets. He could throw a dart on the wall and end up with a good
> car.
>
> What he DOESN'T want is to end up with a good car but absolutely no
> support, with a bad dealer who won't fix warranty items and who doesn't
> take care of him and his $25,000 purchase.
>
> It all comes down to his support system. Does he have a friend who works
> on Hondas? Get a Honda. Is the Honda dealer 50 miles away, but the
> Nissan dealer 3 miles away? Does the Nissan dealer have a good
> reputation in the community? Yes? Then get the Nissan.
>
> And so on.
>

That is exactly why I went with the Honda Accord. The dealership is one
mile from my house and I know the owner's son as well as the service
manager. It is so convenient when I have routine maintenance performed
because I drive it over, and walk home. The last time I walked back to
pick it up, they said they would have drove it to me.... I need the
exercise anyway (ha, ha).

Of course, I got a great deal on the EX L V6 in February '07 because
they sold it to me for $500 below invoice! I wish I could have held out
for an 08, but I needed a car very badly in February.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

He's looking for a 2007 and you're anticipating vehicle problems on the most
reliable cars in America. A dealer turning away a warranty repair....Are
you kidding me? Dealers have 2 or 3 people who do nothing all day except
bill the factory for warranty repairs. It's easy money for them or are you
thinking about disputable issues beyond the 3/36 total 5/60 powertrain
warranties?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-7AA1E9.12073829092007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <WbuLi.1575$yc5.106@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:
>
>> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>> >I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>> > looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>> > vehicle. I want a manual.
>> >
>> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.
>
> He posted to all groups.
>
> Face it: all those cars are so similar, it really doesn't matter which
> one he gets. He could throw a dart on the wall and end up with a good
> car.
>
> What he DOESN'T want is to end up with a good car but absolutely no
> support, with a bad dealer who won't fix warranty items and who doesn't
> take care of him and his $25,000 purchase.
>
> It all comes down to his support system. Does he have a friend who works
> on Hondas? Get a Honda. Is the Honda dealer 50 miles away, but the
> Nissan dealer 3 miles away? Does the Nissan dealer have a good
> reputation in the community? Yes? Then get the Nissan.
>
> And so on.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

He's looking for a 2007 and you're anticipating vehicle problems on the most
reliable cars in America. A dealer turning away a warranty repair....Are
you kidding me? Dealers have 2 or 3 people who do nothing all day except
bill the factory for warranty repairs. It's easy money for them or are you
thinking about disputable issues beyond the 3/36 total 5/60 powertrain
warranties?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-7AA1E9.12073829092007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <WbuLi.1575$yc5.106@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:
>
>> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>> >I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>> > looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>> > vehicle. I want a manual.
>> >
>> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.
>
> He posted to all groups.
>
> Face it: all those cars are so similar, it really doesn't matter which
> one he gets. He could throw a dart on the wall and end up with a good
> car.
>
> What he DOESN'T want is to end up with a good car but absolutely no
> support, with a bad dealer who won't fix warranty items and who doesn't
> take care of him and his $25,000 purchase.
>
> It all comes down to his support system. Does he have a friend who works
> on Hondas? Get a Honda. Is the Honda dealer 50 miles away, but the
> Nissan dealer 3 miles away? Does the Nissan dealer have a good
> reputation in the community? Yes? Then get the Nissan.
>
> And so on.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <brALi.1181$sw6.439@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:

> He's looking for a 2007 and you're anticipating vehicle problems on the most
> reliable cars in America. A dealer turning away a warranty repair....Are
> you kidding me?

Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
shop, or whatever.

The point is, to them it's just another car, to you it's $25,000 out of
your life.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <brALi.1181$sw6.439@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:

> He's looking for a 2007 and you're anticipating vehicle problems on the most
> reliable cars in America. A dealer turning away a warranty repair....Are
> you kidding me?

Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
shop, or whatever.

The point is, to them it's just another car, to you it's $25,000 out of
your life.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

I joined the Camry group because I have problems with my 07 Camry. I
wanted to know if the other owners experienced the same weird things
that I have experienced with the car. So I wouldn't call myself
biased. The reason I chose the Camry over the Accord when I purchased
the car last year was due to the "new body" design. It was love at
first sight. But like most relationship there will be some love-hate
issues. I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
bit better. If your going to test drive the Camry, try accelerating
quickly from a turn on an intersection or full throttle from a rolling
start and see if the car will hesitate. Anyway it wouldn't matter if
you got a stick shift. The Camry stick shift is only available with
the 4 cyl. Check what tires comes with the Car, some owners said that
the brdigestones didn't last for a longtime and were noisy at high
speeds, my car came with michellin and they are fine. The 07 Camry has
no coupe version like the altima and accord. The Solara is just a
carry over from the 5th generation camrys and not the 6th gen 2007s.
There were no consumer reports yet when I bought my Camry in 2006 and
there are several websites now that reports discontented buyers of
camrys. Try to google <2007 camry transmission> and see what pops
out.

Dealer support is also good to consider since I've been back to 2
different dealers for warranty support and none of them turned me down
and I didn't even purchase the car from them. Though Toyota of North
Hollywood kept me waiting for a very loooong time before finishing a
simple fix.

And lastly, If the 2008 Scion Xb was already out there last year, that
would have been my car now =)


On Sep 29, 11:29 am, "CamryMan98" <Camry...@camry.com> wrote:
> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.<techtechx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

I joined the Camry group because I have problems with my 07 Camry. I
wanted to know if the other owners experienced the same weird things
that I have experienced with the car. So I wouldn't call myself
biased. The reason I chose the Camry over the Accord when I purchased
the car last year was due to the "new body" design. It was love at
first sight. But like most relationship there will be some love-hate
issues. I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
bit better. If your going to test drive the Camry, try accelerating
quickly from a turn on an intersection or full throttle from a rolling
start and see if the car will hesitate. Anyway it wouldn't matter if
you got a stick shift. The Camry stick shift is only available with
the 4 cyl. Check what tires comes with the Car, some owners said that
the brdigestones didn't last for a longtime and were noisy at high
speeds, my car came with michellin and they are fine. The 07 Camry has
no coupe version like the altima and accord. The Solara is just a
carry over from the 5th generation camrys and not the 6th gen 2007s.
There were no consumer reports yet when I bought my Camry in 2006 and
there are several websites now that reports discontented buyers of
camrys. Try to google <2007 camry transmission> and see what pops
out.

Dealer support is also good to consider since I've been back to 2
different dealers for warranty support and none of them turned me down
and I didn't even purchase the car from them. Though Toyota of North
Hollywood kept me waiting for a very loooong time before finishing a
simple fix.

And lastly, If the 2008 Scion Xb was already out there last year, that
would have been my car now =)


On Sep 29, 11:29 am, "CamryMan98" <Camry...@camry.com> wrote:
> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.<techtechx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <1191112845.960571.73360@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
EdV <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> bit better.

Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.

I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <1191112845.960571.73360@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
EdV <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> bit better.

Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.

I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.


If the "ONLY" qualification you're looking for is now good a manual is, my
preference is the Honda. I've owned a manual from all three of these makes
over the years and I prefer the manual on the Hondas. However you'll need
to define what you consider "better". Exactly what else are you looking
for? Exterior design, reliablity, gas mileage, etc.... Have you driven
each one? Preferably on the same day?

-Dave

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.


If the "ONLY" qualification you're looking for is now good a manual is, my
preference is the Honda. I've owned a manual from all three of these makes
over the years and I prefer the manual on the Hondas. However you'll need
to define what you consider "better". Exactly what else are you looking
for? Exterior design, reliablity, gas mileage, etc.... Have you driven
each one? Preferably on the same day?

-Dave

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more
sporty-but was a little cramped for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better
air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks like my parents car
Michael
<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more
sporty-but was a little cramped for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better
air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks like my parents car
Michael
<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"M.Balarama" <mbalar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EYMLi.975$ih1.118@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more sporty-but was a little cramped
> for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks
> like my parents car
> Michael

Well your parents probably have MORE money, MORE experience and MORE sense, all around that YOU have, so
it makes sense that they would choose a Camry or a Camry like vehicle rather than a car that gang members
like, i.e. a Honda.




> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>> vehicle. I want a manual.
>>
>
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"M.Balarama" <mbalar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EYMLi.975$ih1.118@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more sporty-but was a little cramped
> for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks
> like my parents car
> Michael

Well your parents probably have MORE money, MORE experience and MORE sense, all around that YOU have, so
it makes sense that they would choose a Camry or a Camry like vehicle rather than a car that gang members
like, i.e. a Honda.




> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>> vehicle. I want a manual.
>>
>
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Thanks, and all the while I wanted to trade in my Camry for an IS350,
to get more oomph.. hehehe.

On Sep 29, 9:12 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <1191112845.960571.73...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> EdV <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> > been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> > issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> > bit better.
>
> Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
> problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.
>
> I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
> honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Thanks, and all the while I wanted to trade in my Camry for an IS350,
to get more oomph.. hehehe.

On Sep 29, 9:12 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <1191112845.960571.73...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> EdV <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> > been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> > issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> > bit better.
>
> Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
> problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.
>
> I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
> honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-69FBC6.20032029092007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <brALi.1181$sw6.439@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:
>
>
> Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
> can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
> shop, or whatever.
Not true! Honda warranty pays the going rate for the area. Usually at least
95% of the posted door rate. Warranty parts also get a similar return.
Considering the negative aspect of receiving poor survey feedback, a dealer
would be more concerned about their warranty work thereby getting the best
techs to do the repair.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-69FBC6.20032029092007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <brALi.1181$sw6.439@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:
>
>
> Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
> can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
> shop, or whatever.
Not true! Honda warranty pays the going rate for the area. Usually at least
95% of the posted door rate. Warranty parts also get a similar return.
Considering the negative aspect of receiving poor survey feedback, a dealer
would be more concerned about their warranty work thereby getting the best
techs to do the repair.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <46fff348$0$32474$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Howard" <howardh1951-at-hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
> > can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
> > shop, or whatever.
> Not true! Honda warranty pays the going rate for the area.

Nope.

They have a separate schedule, irrespective of the going rate for any
area.

Trust me.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <46fff348$0$32474$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Howard" <howardh1951-at-hotmail.com> wrote:

> > Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
> > can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
> > shop, or whatever.
> Not true! Honda warranty pays the going rate for the area.

Nope.

They have a separate schedule, irrespective of the going rate for any
area.

Trust me.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-DB1308.15212330092007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <46fff348$0$32474$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Howard" <howardh1951-at-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah,
>> > they
>> > can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
>> > shop, or whatever.
>> Not true! Honda warranty pays the going rate for the area.
>
> Nope.
>
> They have a separate schedule, irrespective of the going rate for any
> area.

> Trust me.
Nope!
They have THE schedule. Factory times are what is recommended for any
prescribed job. It's the dealer who creates his own schedule over and above
what is recommended. It's what gives gouging dealers a bad name

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-DB1308.15212330092007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <46fff348$0$32474$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Howard" <howardh1951-at-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah,
>> > they
>> > can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
>> > shop, or whatever.
>> Not true! Honda warranty pays the going rate for the area.
>
> Nope.
>
> They have a separate schedule, irrespective of the going rate for any
> area.

> Trust me.
Nope!
They have THE schedule. Factory times are what is recommended for any
prescribed job. It's the dealer who creates his own schedule over and above
what is recommended. It's what gives gouging dealers a bad name

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Techtech,

Both cars are exceptional. However, make sure that you spend the extra $2500
for the v6, otherwise you get the 4cyl that feels like a Kia. I prefer the
honda's new 2008 body style and would not suggest getting a 2007 honda what
so ever, as it is like buying a body style several years old and resell will
be poor. Additionally, the honda 2008 has a better safety rating. I would
stay away from the Nissan, as I never liked my Z and the repair costs.

Like I said, stick with the v6 and purchase either the camry or honda. For
the honda buy the 2008, the camry you can settle for the 2007 since the
style hasn't changed. The options are totally up to you and the choice is
yours. Good luck.


<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Techtech,

Both cars are exceptional. However, make sure that you spend the extra $2500
for the v6, otherwise you get the 4cyl that feels like a Kia. I prefer the
honda's new 2008 body style and would not suggest getting a 2007 honda what
so ever, as it is like buying a body style several years old and resell will
be poor. Additionally, the honda 2008 has a better safety rating. I would
stay away from the Nissan, as I never liked my Z and the repair costs.

Like I said, stick with the v6 and purchase either the camry or honda. For
the honda buy the 2008, the camry you can settle for the 2007 since the
style hasn't changed. The options are totally up to you and the choice is
yours. Good luck.


<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <4700032c$0$18983$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Howard" <howardh1951-at-hotmail.com> wrote:

> > They have a separate schedule, irrespective of the going rate for any
> > area.
>
> > Trust me.
> Nope!
> They have THE schedule. Factory times are what is recommended for any
> prescribed job.

TIMES, yes. Pay rate? Honda doesn't pay the $80/hour or whatever is
current for pay customers off the street.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <4700032c$0$18983$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Howard" <howardh1951-at-hotmail.com> wrote:

> > They have a separate schedule, irrespective of the going rate for any
> > area.
>
> > Trust me.
> Nope!
> They have THE schedule. Factory times are what is recommended for any
> prescribed job.

TIMES, yes. Pay rate? Honda doesn't pay the $80/hour or whatever is
current for pay customers off the street.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Some says the 2008 Accords are considered full sized sedans? is this
true?

On Sep 30, 5:09 pm, "Honda-Man" <eastviewontheba...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> Techtech,
>
> Both cars are exceptional. However, make sure that you spend the extra $2500
> for the v6, otherwise you get the 4cyl that feels like a Kia. I prefer the
> honda's new 2008 body style and would not suggest getting a 2007 honda what
> so ever, as it is like buying a body style several years old and resell will
> be poor. Additionally, the honda 2008 has a better safety rating. I would
> stay away from the Nissan, as I never liked my Z and the repair costs.
>
> Like I said, stick with the v6 and purchase either the camry or honda. For
> the honda buy the 2008, the camry you can settle for the 2007 since the
> style hasn't changed. The options are totally up to you and the choice is
> yours. Good luck.
>
> <techtechx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>
> >I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> > looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> > vehicle. I want a manual.