Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <brALi.1181$sw6.439@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:

> He's looking for a 2007 and you're anticipating vehicle problems on the most
> reliable cars in America. A dealer turning away a warranty repair....Are
> you kidding me?

Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
shop, or whatever.

The point is, to them it's just another car, to you it's $25,000 out of
your life.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <brALi.1181$sw6.439@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:

> He's looking for a 2007 and you're anticipating vehicle problems on the most
> reliable cars in America. A dealer turning away a warranty repair....Are
> you kidding me?

Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
shop, or whatever.

The point is, to them it's just another car, to you it's $25,000 out of
your life.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

I joined the Camry group because I have problems with my 07 Camry. I
wanted to know if the other owners experienced the same weird things
that I have experienced with the car. So I wouldn't call myself
biased. The reason I chose the Camry over the Accord when I purchased
the car last year was due to the "new body" design. It was love at
first sight. But like most relationship there will be some love-hate
issues. I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
bit better. If your going to test drive the Camry, try accelerating
quickly from a turn on an intersection or full throttle from a rolling
start and see if the car will hesitate. Anyway it wouldn't matter if
you got a stick shift. The Camry stick shift is only available with
the 4 cyl. Check what tires comes with the Car, some owners said that
the brdigestones didn't last for a longtime and were noisy at high
speeds, my car came with michellin and they are fine. The 07 Camry has
no coupe version like the altima and accord. The Solara is just a
carry over from the 5th generation camrys and not the 6th gen 2007s.
There were no consumer reports yet when I bought my Camry in 2006 and
there are several websites now that reports discontented buyers of
camrys. Try to google <2007 camry transmission> and see what pops
out.

Dealer support is also good to consider since I've been back to 2
different dealers for warranty support and none of them turned me down
and I didn't even purchase the car from them. Though Toyota of North
Hollywood kept me waiting for a very loooong time before finishing a
simple fix.

And lastly, If the 2008 Scion Xb was already out there last year, that
would have been my car now =)


On Sep 29, 11:29 am, "CamryMan98" <Camry...@camry.com> wrote:
> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.<techtechx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

I joined the Camry group because I have problems with my 07 Camry. I
wanted to know if the other owners experienced the same weird things
that I have experienced with the car. So I wouldn't call myself
biased. The reason I chose the Camry over the Accord when I purchased
the car last year was due to the "new body" design. It was love at
first sight. But like most relationship there will be some love-hate
issues. I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
bit better. If your going to test drive the Camry, try accelerating
quickly from a turn on an intersection or full throttle from a rolling
start and see if the car will hesitate. Anyway it wouldn't matter if
you got a stick shift. The Camry stick shift is only available with
the 4 cyl. Check what tires comes with the Car, some owners said that
the brdigestones didn't last for a longtime and were noisy at high
speeds, my car came with michellin and they are fine. The 07 Camry has
no coupe version like the altima and accord. The Solara is just a
carry over from the 5th generation camrys and not the 6th gen 2007s.
There were no consumer reports yet when I bought my Camry in 2006 and
there are several websites now that reports discontented buyers of
camrys. Try to google <2007 camry transmission> and see what pops
out.

Dealer support is also good to consider since I've been back to 2
different dealers for warranty support and none of them turned me down
and I didn't even purchase the car from them. Though Toyota of North
Hollywood kept me waiting for a very loooong time before finishing a
simple fix.

And lastly, If the 2008 Scion Xb was already out there last year, that
would have been my car now =)


On Sep 29, 11:29 am, "CamryMan98" <Camry...@camry.com> wrote:
> Get the Camry, but we're biased here, it's the Camry group.<techtechx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <1191112845.960571.73360@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
EdV <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> bit better.

Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.

I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

In article <1191112845.960571.73360@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
EdV <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> bit better.

Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.

I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.


If the "ONLY" qualification you're looking for is now good a manual is, my
preference is the Honda. I've owned a manual from all three of these makes
over the years and I prefer the manual on the Hondas. However you'll need
to define what you consider "better". Exactly what else are you looking
for? Exterior design, reliablity, gas mileage, etc.... Have you driven
each one? Preferably on the same day?

-Dave

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.


If the "ONLY" qualification you're looking for is now good a manual is, my
preference is the Honda. I've owned a manual from all three of these makes
over the years and I prefer the manual on the Hondas. However you'll need
to define what you consider "better". Exactly what else are you looking
for? Exterior design, reliablity, gas mileage, etc.... Have you driven
each one? Preferably on the same day?

-Dave

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more
sporty-but was a little cramped for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better
air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks like my parents car
Michael
<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more
sporty-but was a little cramped for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better
air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks like my parents car
Michael
<techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
> vehicle. I want a manual.
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"M.Balarama" <mbalar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EYMLi.975$ih1.118@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more sporty-but was a little cramped
> for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks
> like my parents car
> Michael

Well your parents probably have MORE money, MORE experience and MORE sense, all around that YOU have, so
it makes sense that they would choose a Camry or a Camry like vehicle rather than a car that gang members
like, i.e. a Honda.




> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>> vehicle. I want a manual.
>>
>
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"M.Balarama" <mbalar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:EYMLi.975$ih1.118@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> We had an accord and a camry-both great cars-accord was a little more sporty-but was a little cramped
> for a 6 foot person--camry has a much better air conditioner. I liked the accord looks--camry looks
> like my parents car
> Michael

Well your parents probably have MORE money, MORE experience and MORE sense, all around that YOU have, so
it makes sense that they would choose a Camry or a Camry like vehicle rather than a car that gang members
like, i.e. a Honda.




> <techtechxxxx@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191030935.390290.70960@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
>>I am looking to buy a car. What do you guys think is better. I am
>> looking at 2007s. I figure this is the time to get a decent discounted
>> vehicle. I want a manual.
>>
>
>

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Thanks, and all the while I wanted to trade in my Camry for an IS350,
to get more oomph.. hehehe.

On Sep 29, 9:12 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <1191112845.960571.73...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> EdV <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> > been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> > issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> > bit better.
>
> Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
> problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.
>
> I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
> honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

Thanks, and all the while I wanted to trade in my Camry for an IS350,
to get more oomph.. hehehe.

On Sep 29, 9:12 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <1191112845.960571.73...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> EdV <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I hate the Automatic transmission response of the 07 and have
> > been with the dealer several times for warranty work due to said
> > issue, and up to now the response time is still the same, but a little
> > bit better.
>
> Try hanging out in the lexus groups for awhile. They've had this tranny
> problem for a few years now, and Toyota has done NOTHING about it.
>
> I'm surprised it took this long to make it into the Camry, quite
> honestly.

Re: Pro and Cons - Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord vs Nissan Altima
 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-69FBC6.20032029092007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <brALi.1181$sw6.439@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "CamryMan98" <CamryMan@camry.com> wrote:
>
>
> Warranty work pays a pittance compared to customer pay work. Yeah, they
> can balk at it, and/or do it badly, or give it to the worst guy in the
> shop, or whatever.
Not true! Honda warranty pays the going rate for the area. Usually at least
95% of the posted door rate. Warranty parts also get a similar return.
Considering the negative aspect of receiving poor survey feedback, a dealer
would be more concerned about their warranty work thereby getting the best
techs to do the repair.