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mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com 01-12-2007 01:47 PM

push button start
 
I have a 95 civic ex 5 speed manual. I'm putting in a push button
start, but I'm not sure what wires to tap into. I have a test light and
I'm pretty good with electrical, but does anyone know the exact wire
colors to tap into on the ignition. I have my haynes manual, but I'm
not to good a reading these diagrams. If anyone knows the wires it
would help. I already have to button mounted and I'm going to put an
in-line fuse instead of a relay and if anyone knows the exact wire
colors to tap into. it would help thanks.


Seth 01-12-2007 03:54 PM

Re: push button start
 
<mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168627673.545148.69610@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
>I have a 95 civic ex 5 speed manual. I'm putting in a push button
> start, but I'm not sure what wires to tap into. I have a test light and
> I'm pretty good with electrical, but does anyone know the exact wire
> colors to tap into on the ignition. I have my haynes manual, but I'm
> not to good a reading these diagrams. If anyone knows the wires it
> would help. I already have to button mounted and I'm going to put an
> in-line fuse instead of a relay and if anyone knows the exact wire
> colors to tap into. it would help thanks.


I no longer have them memorized, but here is how you figure it out for ANY
car...

Stop using a test light! They are only good for circuits that you know you
can safely work on with a load. This particular project a test light is
fine for, but what about your next project? Probe the wrong wire with a
test light and you fry a circuit. When in doubt, use a multimeter.

Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a bundle of
wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for under a dash)
usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the key is in the crank
position.

Other wires in that bundle...

Constant 12v - Always 12v
Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want to
power unnecessary items during crank)
Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed during
RUN and CRANK)

Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out (or
probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.



Seth 01-12-2007 03:54 PM

Re: push button start
 
<mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168627673.545148.69610@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
>I have a 95 civic ex 5 speed manual. I'm putting in a push button
> start, but I'm not sure what wires to tap into. I have a test light and
> I'm pretty good with electrical, but does anyone know the exact wire
> colors to tap into on the ignition. I have my haynes manual, but I'm
> not to good a reading these diagrams. If anyone knows the wires it
> would help. I already have to button mounted and I'm going to put an
> in-line fuse instead of a relay and if anyone knows the exact wire
> colors to tap into. it would help thanks.


I no longer have them memorized, but here is how you figure it out for ANY
car...

Stop using a test light! They are only good for circuits that you know you
can safely work on with a load. This particular project a test light is
fine for, but what about your next project? Probe the wrong wire with a
test light and you fry a circuit. When in doubt, use a multimeter.

Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a bundle of
wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for under a dash)
usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the key is in the crank
position.

Other wires in that bundle...

Constant 12v - Always 12v
Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want to
power unnecessary items during crank)
Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed during
RUN and CRANK)

Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out (or
probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.



Seth 01-12-2007 03:54 PM

Re: push button start
 
<mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168627673.545148.69610@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
>I have a 95 civic ex 5 speed manual. I'm putting in a push button
> start, but I'm not sure what wires to tap into. I have a test light and
> I'm pretty good with electrical, but does anyone know the exact wire
> colors to tap into on the ignition. I have my haynes manual, but I'm
> not to good a reading these diagrams. If anyone knows the wires it
> would help. I already have to button mounted and I'm going to put an
> in-line fuse instead of a relay and if anyone knows the exact wire
> colors to tap into. it would help thanks.


I no longer have them memorized, but here is how you figure it out for ANY
car...

Stop using a test light! They are only good for circuits that you know you
can safely work on with a load. This particular project a test light is
fine for, but what about your next project? Probe the wrong wire with a
test light and you fry a circuit. When in doubt, use a multimeter.

Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a bundle of
wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for under a dash)
usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the key is in the crank
position.

Other wires in that bundle...

Constant 12v - Always 12v
Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want to
power unnecessary items during crank)
Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed during
RUN and CRANK)

Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out (or
probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.



Seth 01-12-2007 03:54 PM

Re: push button start
 
<mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168627673.545148.69610@11g2000cwr.googlegrou ps.com...
>I have a 95 civic ex 5 speed manual. I'm putting in a push button
> start, but I'm not sure what wires to tap into. I have a test light and
> I'm pretty good with electrical, but does anyone know the exact wire
> colors to tap into on the ignition. I have my haynes manual, but I'm
> not to good a reading these diagrams. If anyone knows the wires it
> would help. I already have to button mounted and I'm going to put an
> in-line fuse instead of a relay and if anyone knows the exact wire
> colors to tap into. it would help thanks.


I no longer have them memorized, but here is how you figure it out for ANY
car...

Stop using a test light! They are only good for circuits that you know you
can safely work on with a load. This particular project a test light is
fine for, but what about your next project? Probe the wrong wire with a
test light and you fry a circuit. When in doubt, use a multimeter.

Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a bundle of
wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for under a dash)
usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the key is in the crank
position.

Other wires in that bundle...

Constant 12v - Always 12v
Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want to
power unnecessary items during crank)
Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed during
RUN and CRANK)

Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out (or
probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.



Tegger 01-12-2007 07:39 PM

Re: push button start
 
"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:

<snip>


>
> Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> key is in the crank position.
>
> Other wires in that bundle...
>
> Constant 12v - Always 12v
> Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> to power unnecessary items during crank)
> Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> during RUN and CRANK)
>
> Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
>
>




Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.

If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html

A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
ACC terminal "IG2".


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 01-12-2007 07:39 PM

Re: push button start
 
"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:

<snip>


>
> Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> key is in the crank position.
>
> Other wires in that bundle...
>
> Constant 12v - Always 12v
> Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> to power unnecessary items during crank)
> Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> during RUN and CRANK)
>
> Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
>
>




Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.

If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html

A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
ACC terminal "IG2".


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 01-12-2007 07:39 PM

Re: push button start
 
"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:

<snip>


>
> Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> key is in the crank position.
>
> Other wires in that bundle...
>
> Constant 12v - Always 12v
> Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> to power unnecessary items during crank)
> Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> during RUN and CRANK)
>
> Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
>
>




Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.

If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html

A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
ACC terminal "IG2".


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 01-12-2007 07:39 PM

Re: push button start
 
"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:

<snip>


>
> Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> key is in the crank position.
>
> Other wires in that bundle...
>
> Constant 12v - Always 12v
> Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> to power unnecessary items during crank)
> Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> during RUN and CRANK)
>
> Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
>
>




Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.

If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html

A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
ACC terminal "IG2".


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com 01-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: push button start
 

Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.


mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com 01-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: push button start
 

Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.


mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com 01-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: push button start
 

Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.


mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com 01-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: push button start
 

Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.


mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com 01-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: push button start
 

Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.


mitsurugi3644@hotmail.com 01-12-2007 11:00 PM

Re: push button start
 

Tegger wrote:
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oASph.640$3w7.612@newsfe12.lga:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> >
> > Under the dash, high up along the steering column you will find a
> > bundle of wires on the right side of the column. Heavy wires (for
> > under a dash) usually 10 or 12ga. Check each one for 12v while the
> > key is in the crank position.
> >
> > Other wires in that bundle...
> >
> > Constant 12v - Always 12v
> > Accessory - 12v in Acc and RUN position, dead during crank (don't want
> > to power unnecessary items during crank)
> > Ignition - 12v in RUN and CRANK position (only power what is needed
> > during RUN and CRANK)
> >
> > Avoid any wire or group of wires in a yellow wiring loom. Those are
> > universally used as an indicator of airbag wiring. Short those out
> > (or probe them incorrectly) and the airbags will pop.
> >
> >

>
>
>
> Two thumbs up to Seth. He's right on the money.
>
> If anybody wants a quick snapshot on what the ignition switch wires do, see
> the diagrams on this Main Relay page:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html
> And see this one for a dissection of the ignition switch:
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ignit...tch/index.html
>
> A quick study of the diagrams will prove Seth's assertions. Honda calls the
> ACC terminal "IG2".
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/




So when I'm turning the key to crank the engine whatever 2 wires are
hot are the 2 wires that I want to hook up my push button switch to?
correct.



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