Question re first 3 month service
05-09-2007, 09:16 PM
#46
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 8, 8:19�pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googleg roups.com...
>
> >>On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
>
> >>>>I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >>>>came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >>>Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >>>your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> >>i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> >>or a synthetic mix in.
> >>me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >>>You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >>>vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> >>wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> >>a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
> > Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and
> > maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to
> > automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient
> >BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in
> > operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly
> > denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad andugly,
> > ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> > modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque
> > converters) built in.
>
> > Mike
>
> My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. To increase fuel mileage,
> one would start in low then shift into drive. Gotya about 11 instead of
> the typical 10 mpg.
>
> Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! Wish I still had it..
>
> JT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have a 1950 Roadmaster right now!
wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googleg roups.com...
>
> >>On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
>
> >>>>I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >>>>came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >>>Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >>>your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> >>i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> >>or a synthetic mix in.
> >>me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >>>You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >>>vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> >>wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> >>a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
> > Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and
> > maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to
> > automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient
> >BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in
> > operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly
> > denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad andugly,
> > ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> > modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque
> > converters) built in.
>
> > Mike
>
> My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. To increase fuel mileage,
> one would start in low then shift into drive. Gotya about 11 instead of
> the typical 10 mpg.
>
> Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! Wish I still had it..
>
> JT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have a 1950 Roadmaster right now!
05-09-2007, 09:16 PM
#47
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 8, 8:19�pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googleg roups.com...
>
> >>On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
>
> >>>>I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >>>>came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >>>Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >>>your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> >>i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> >>or a synthetic mix in.
> >>me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >>>You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >>>vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> >>wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> >>a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
> > Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and
> > maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to
> > automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient
> >BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in
> > operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly
> > denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad andugly,
> > ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> > modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque
> > converters) built in.
>
> > Mike
>
> My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. To increase fuel mileage,
> one would start in low then shift into drive. Gotya about 11 instead of
> the typical 10 mpg.
>
> Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! Wish I still had it..
>
> JT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have a 1950 Roadmaster right now!
wrote:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
> > <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googleg roups.com...
>
> >>On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
>
> >>>>I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >>>>came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >>>Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >>>your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> >>i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> >>or a synthetic mix in.
> >>me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >>>You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >>>vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> >>wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> >>a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
> > Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and
> > maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to
> > automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient
> >BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in
> > operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly
> > denigrate the entire gamut of automatic transmissions, good, bad andugly,
> > ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> > modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque
> > converters) built in.
>
> > Mike
>
> My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. To increase fuel mileage,
> one would start in low then shift into drive. Gotya about 11 instead of
> the typical 10 mpg.
>
> Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! Wish I still had it..
>
> JT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have a 1950 Roadmaster right now!
05-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
CAYOBLUES@AOL.COM wrote:
> On May 8, 8:19�pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>>><isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googl egroups.com...
>>
>>>>On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
>>>>>>came on, on the dashboard?
>>
>>>>>Correct. �In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
>>>>>your oil early, for your first oil change.
>>
>>>>i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
>>>>or a synthetic mix in.
>>>>me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>>
>>>>>You'll get service reminders all the time. �Just ignore them until your
>>>>>vehicle tells you it needs service.
>>
>>>>wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
>>>>a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>>
>>>Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and
>>>maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to
>>>automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient
>>>BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in
>>>operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly
>>>denigrate the entire gamut of �automatic transmissions, good, bad and ugly,
>>>ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
>>>modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque
>>>converters) built in.
>>
>>>Mike
>>
>>My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. �To increase fuel mileage,
>>one would start in low then shift into drive. �Gotya about 11 instead of
>>the typical 10 mpg.
>>
>>Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! �Wish I still had it..
>>
>>JT- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> I have a 1950 Roadmaster right now!
>
Four door? Black?? Maybe it's the same one...
<G>
JT
05-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
CAYOBLUES@AOL.COM wrote:
> On May 8, 8:19�pm, Grumpy AuContraire <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>>><isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googl egroups.com...
>>
>>>>On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
>>>>>>came on, on the dashboard?
>>
>>>>>Correct. �In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
>>>>>your oil early, for your first oil change.
>>
>>>>i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
>>>>or a synthetic mix in.
>>>>me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>>
>>>>>You'll get service reminders all the time. �Just ignore them until your
>>>>>vehicle tells you it needs service.
>>
>>>>wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
>>>>a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>>
>>>Wow, are you out of date! Slushboxes were contemporary to the Beatniks and
>>>maybe Hippies. Although the term "slushbox" has been applied wrongly to
>>>automatic transmissions since I was a kid, it actually only fit the ancient
>>>BuickDynaflow... although the 2-speed GM Powerglide came close in
>>>operation. Conceited stick jockies have used it to carelessly or mindlessly
>>>denigrate the entire gamut of �automatic transmissions, good, bad and ugly,
>>>ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
>>>modern manual transmissions but with controls (including lock-up torque
>>>converters) built in.
>>
>>>Mike
>>
>>My second car was a 1950BuickRoadmaster. �To increase fuel mileage,
>>one would start in low then shift into drive. �Gotya about 11 instead of
>>the typical 10 mpg.
>>
>>Even though, I love that biiiiiiig car! �Wish I still had it..
>>
>>JT- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> I have a 1950 Roadmaster right now!
>
Four door? Black?? Maybe it's the same one...
<G>
JT
05-16-2007, 04:05 AM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
> >> > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >> > came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >> Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >> your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> > i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> > or a synthetic mix in.
> > me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >> You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >> vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> > wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> > a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
,
> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> modern manual transmissions
really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
> >> > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >> > came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >> Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >> your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> > i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> > or a synthetic mix in.
> > me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >> You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >> vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> > wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> > a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
,
> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> modern manual transmissions
really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination
05-16-2007, 04:05 AM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
> >> > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >> > came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >> Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >> your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> > i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> > or a synthetic mix in.
> > me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >> You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >> vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> > wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> > a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
,
> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> modern manual transmissions
really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178599579.128945.288600@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 8:26 am, Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:
> >> > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light
> >> > came on, on the dashboard?
>
> >> Correct. In fact, your manual specifically advises you to NOT change
> >> your oil early, for your first oil change.
>
> > i could not see how it could hurt as long as you don't put synthetics
> > or a synthetic mix in.
> > me thinks no point to change the oil filter though.
>
> >> You'll get service reminders all the time. Just ignore them until your
> >> vehicle tells you it needs service.
>
> > wow. i'm glad i'm not buying a used honda not that i'd want
> > a toaster on wheels with a slushbox anyway :^)
>
,
> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same as
> modern manual transmissions
really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
evo?
That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
imagination
05-16-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
<isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
> ,
>> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
>> as
>> modern manual transmissions
>
> really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> evo?
> That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> imagination
>
>
"Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
"slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
mostly a clutch.
Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
as any manual tranny :-)
Mike
news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
> ,
>> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
>> as
>> modern manual transmissions
>
> really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> evo?
> That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> imagination
>
>
"Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
"slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
mostly a clutch.
Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
as any manual tranny :-)
Mike
05-16-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
<isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
> ,
>> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
>> as
>> modern manual transmissions
>
> really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> evo?
> That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> imagination
>
>
"Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
"slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
mostly a clutch.
Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
as any manual tranny :-)
Mike
news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
> ,
>> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
>> as
>> modern manual transmissions
>
> really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> evo?
> That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> imagination
>
>
"Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
"slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
mostly a clutch.
Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
as any manual tranny :-)
Mike
05-16-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
Michael Pardee wrote:
> <isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
>>wrote:
>>,
>>
>>>ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
>>>as
>>>modern manual transmissions
>>
>>really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
>>are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
>>evo?
>>That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
>>public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
>>marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
>>we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
>>imagination
>>
>>
>
> "Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
> that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
> manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
> "slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
> things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
> trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
> Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
> fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
> mostly a clutch.
>
> Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
> shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
> as any manual tranny :-)
>
> Mike
>
I believe that Studebaker was the pioneer with regards to lock up
converters with the Automatic Drive introduced in 1950.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Drive
JT
05-16-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
Michael Pardee wrote:
> <isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
>>wrote:
>>,
>>
>>>ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
>>>as
>>>modern manual transmissions
>>
>>really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
>>are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
>>evo?
>>That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
>>public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
>>marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
>>we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
>>imagination
>>
>>
>
> "Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
> that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
> manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow); thus
> "slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
> things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
> trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
> Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
> fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
> mostly a clutch.
>
> Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
> shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
> as any manual tranny :-)
>
> Mike
>
I believe that Studebaker was the pioneer with regards to lock up
converters with the Automatic Drive introduced in 1950.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Drive
JT
05-17-2007, 04:04 AM
#56
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 16, 12:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> > wrote:
> > ,
> >> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
> >> as
> >> modern manual transmissions
>
> > really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> > are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> > evo?
> > That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> > public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> > marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> > we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> > imagination
>
> "Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
> that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
> manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow);thus
> "slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
> things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
> trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
> Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
> fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
> mostly a clutch.
>
> Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
> shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
> as any manual tranny :-)
i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
before?
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> > wrote:
> > ,
> >> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
> >> as
> >> modern manual transmissions
>
> > really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> > are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> > evo?
> > That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> > public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> > marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> > we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> > imagination
>
> "Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
> that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
> manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow);thus
> "slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
> things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
> trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
> Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
> fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
> mostly a clutch.
>
> Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
> shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
> as any manual tranny :-)
i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
before?
05-17-2007, 04:04 AM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 16, 12:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> > wrote:
> > ,
> >> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
> >> as
> >> modern manual transmissions
>
> > really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> > are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> > evo?
> > That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> > public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> > marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> > we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> > imagination
>
> "Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
> that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
> manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow);thus
> "slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
> things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
> trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
> Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
> fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
> mostly a clutch.
>
> Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
> shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
> as any manual tranny :-)
i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
before?
wrote:
> <isq...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1179302752.470075.82110@e65g2000hsc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > On May 8, 4:14 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> > wrote:
> > ,
> >> ever since. Modern automatic transmissions are mostly very much the same
> >> as
> >> modern manual transmissions
>
> > really??? I thought DSG is only found on certain VWs and even those
> > are far in between. Are you referring to the DSG clone in the upcoming
> > evo?
> > That car hasn't even been released to reviewers let alone the driving
> > public yet. Would you please be specific which technological
> > marvels you are referring to? found in which cars, specifically?
> > we're not marketing here and don't like things to me left to
> > imagination
>
> "Slushboxes" were non-geared trannies. The venerable Dynaflow - the tranny
> that gave rise to the term - was a fluid coupled torque converter with a
> manual granny underdrive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflow);thus
> "slushbox" to denote the coupling didn't involve gears. If you know of
> things today that uses such an arrangement, please enlighten me. Even manual
> trannies are lubricated, so having liquid in the gearbox isn't the issue.
> Almost anything built in the last decade uses a lockup torque converter so
> fluid coupling isn't normally going on there - the torque converter is
> mostly a clutch.
>
> Then there was Renault's powdered iron magnetic clutch on the electrically
> shifted manual tranny to make it fully automatic, back in the '60s... as dry
> as any manual tranny :-)
i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
before?
05-17-2007, 10:50 PM
#58
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Posts: n/a
Re: Question re first 3 month service
I am a Service Advisor in a Honda dealership..We advise on the newer
vehicles to watch your oil life...at 15% you should call for a Service
appointment.This is by American Honda Standards.There are two schedules
for maintence for Honda Vehicles one for the older and one for the newer
vehicles..if you dont put a lot of miles on a new vehicle an oil change
should be done in at least 6 months..The older 3 months or 3,000
miles...We don't want to make any extra money off of you , we make our
money off of people who DON'T take care of their cars.
vehicles to watch your oil life...at 15% you should call for a Service
appointment.This is by American Honda Standards.There are two schedules
for maintence for Honda Vehicles one for the older and one for the newer
vehicles..if you dont put a lot of miles on a new vehicle an oil change
should be done in at least 6 months..The older 3 months or 3,000
miles...We don't want to make any extra money off of you , we make our
money off of people who DON'T take care of their cars.
05-17-2007, 10:50 PM
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Question re first 3 month service
I am a Service Advisor in a Honda dealership..We advise on the newer
vehicles to watch your oil life...at 15% you should call for a Service
appointment.This is by American Honda Standards.There are two schedules
for maintence for Honda Vehicles one for the older and one for the newer
vehicles..if you dont put a lot of miles on a new vehicle an oil change
should be done in at least 6 months..The older 3 months or 3,000
miles...We don't want to make any extra money off of you , we make our
money off of people who DON'T take care of their cars.
vehicles to watch your oil life...at 15% you should call for a Service
appointment.This is by American Honda Standards.There are two schedules
for maintence for Honda Vehicles one for the older and one for the newer
vehicles..if you dont put a lot of miles on a new vehicle an oil change
should be done in at least 6 months..The older 3 months or 3,000
miles...We don't want to make any extra money off of you , we make our
money off of people who DON'T take care of their cars.
05-18-2007, 12:20 AM
#60
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Re: Question re first 3 month service
<isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179389076.318197.130640@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 16, 12:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
>
> i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
> or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
> before?
>
>
Sorry... engineer, not lawyer. I do get wound up in pointless discussions,
though :-}
Mike
news:1179389076.318197.130640@o5g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 16, 12:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
>
> i think you would've made one helluva flesh eating lawyer,
> or at least some kind of a politician, did anyone tell you that
> before?
>
>
Sorry... engineer, not lawyer. I do get wound up in pointless discussions,
though :-}
Mike
