robm

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-A067FE.05495509112005@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> In article <dkrpe4$26s$1@reader2.panix.com>,
> "boobie" <boobie.webdeveloper@mailnull.com> wrote:
>
> > I have been wondering about VTEC engagement....
> >
> > Judging by the manner the "majority" of people (in the US) drive
> > and narrowing down to Honda owners....
> >
> > I am pretty sure most Honda owners either very, very rarely or NEVER
> > hit VTEC,
> > I mean especially owners with A/T,..I really think most NEVER ever hit
VTEC.
> >
> > I mean I think most people just never rev that high (5~6 K) to get into
> > VTEC...
>
> 02 Odyssey, VTEC comes in between 4000 and 4500rpm...and Dr. Jekyll
> turns into Mr. Hyde.
>
> I hit it all the time when I drive the van, and I rarely drive the van...
>
> when I had the 92 Civic Si, I was into to every time I drove the car.
>

amen and booyah from me w/ 93 civic Si 5 spd
VTEC almost every drive

I do not know about 5-6K, mine feels like i can engage around 4-4.5 k under
right conditions

need it especially on highway here, everyone thinks they are racing
somewhere and their goal in life is not to let you get in front of them,
which is fine (just slip behind right) except there is another guy right
behind that one with the same notion and the on-rampers get same treatment ?
where VTEC is handy

i just wish i had that 1.6 DOHC 160hp monster in the civic, watch the jaws
drop on those un-suspecting passer-bys

Jamco

lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read the
RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no true vtec)
are considered SLOW

"robm" <not@here.net> wrote in message
news:fxpcf.7079$AS6.4976@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-A067FE.05495509112005@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
>> In article <dkrpe4$26s$1@reader2.panix.com>,
>> "boobie" <boobie.webdeveloper@mailnull.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I have been wondering about VTEC engagement....
>> >
>> > Judging by the manner the "majority" of people (in the US) drive
>> > and narrowing down to Honda owners....
>> >
>> > I am pretty sure most Honda owners either very, very rarely or NEVER
>> > hit VTEC,
>> > I mean especially owners with A/T,..I really think most NEVER ever hit
> VTEC.
>> >
>> > I mean I think most people just never rev that high (5~6 K) to get into
>> > VTEC...
>>
>> 02 Odyssey, VTEC comes in between 4000 and 4500rpm...and Dr. Jekyll
>> turns into Mr. Hyde.
>>
>> I hit it all the time when I drive the van, and I rarely drive the van...
>>
>> when I had the 92 Civic Si, I was into to every time I drove the car.
>>
>
> amen and booyah from me w/ 93 civic Si 5 spd
> VTEC almost every drive
>
> I do not know about 5-6K, mine feels like i can engage around 4-4.5 k
> under
> right conditions
>
> need it especially on highway here, everyone thinks they are racing
> somewhere and their goal in life is not to let you get in front of them,
> which is fine (just slip behind right) except there is another guy right
> behind that one with the same notion and the on-rampers get same treatment
> ?
> where VTEC is handy
>
> i just wish i had that 1.6 DOHC 160hp monster in the civic, watch the jaws
> drop on those un-suspecting passer-bys
>
>
>
>
>

robm

well relatively speaking 160 is a monster, i am about 120 hp w/vtec and i
find it fun to drive so 160 hp ought to give quite a nice kick in the pants
giving more fun (i would hope)

160hp RSX slow ? i think it is more relativity at work there, whats the
comparison 220/240/260 hp

now that would be monster in a civic


"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:LGpcf.136303$Io.76133@clgrps13...
>
> lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read the
> RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no true vtec)
> are considered SLOW
>
> "robm" <not@here.net> wrote in message
> news:fxpcf.7079$AS6.4976@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> >
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> > news:elmop-A067FE.05495509112005@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> >> In article <dkrpe4$26s$1@reader2.panix.com>,
> >> "boobie" <boobie.webdeveloper@mailnull.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have been wondering about VTEC engagement....
> >> >
> >> > Judging by the manner the "majority" of people (in the US) drive
> >> > and narrowing down to Honda owners....
> >> >
> >> > I am pretty sure most Honda owners either very, very rarely or NEVER
> >> > hit VTEC,
> >> > I mean especially owners with A/T,..I really think most NEVER ever
hit
> > VTEC.
> >> >
> >> > I mean I think most people just never rev that high (5~6 K) to get
into
> >> > VTEC...
> >>
> >> 02 Odyssey, VTEC comes in between 4000 and 4500rpm...and Dr. Jekyll
> >> turns into Mr. Hyde.
> >>
> >> I hit it all the time when I drive the van, and I rarely drive the
van...
> >>
> >> when I had the 92 Civic Si, I was into to every time I drove the car.
> >>
> >
> > amen and booyah from me w/ 93 civic Si 5 spd
> > VTEC almost every drive
> >
> > I do not know about 5-6K, mine feels like i can engage around 4-4.5 k
> > under
> > right conditions
> >
> > need it especially on highway here, everyone thinks they are racing
> > somewhere and their goal in life is not to let you get in front of them,
> > which is fine (just slip behind right) except there is another guy right
> > behind that one with the same notion and the on-rampers get same
treatment
> > ?
> > where VTEC is handy
> >
> > i just wish i had that 1.6 DOHC 160hp monster in the civic, watch the
jaws
> > drop on those un-suspecting passer-bys
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Jonathan Upright

robm wrote:
> well relatively speaking 160 is a monster, i am about 120 hp w/vtec and i
> find it fun to drive so 160 hp ought to give quite a nice kick in the pants
> giving more fun (i would hope)
>
> 160hp RSX slow ? i think it is more relativity at work there, whats the
> comparison 220/240/260 hp
>
> now that would be monster in a civic
>
>
> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
> news:LGpcf.136303$Io.76133@clgrps13...
>
>>lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read the
>>RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no true vtec)
>>are considered SLOW
>>
>>"robm" <not@here.net> wrote in message
>>news:fxpcf.7079$AS6.4976@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
>>
>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>news:elmop-A067FE.05495509112005@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
>>>
>>>>In article <dkrpe4$26s$1@reader2.panix.com>,
>>>> "boobie" <boobie.webdeveloper@mailnull.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have been wondering about VTEC engagement....
>>>>>
>>>>>Judging by the manner the "majority" of people (in the US) drive
>>>>>and narrowing down to Honda owners....
>>>>>
>>>>>I am pretty sure most Honda owners either very, very rarely or NEVER
>>>>>hit VTEC,
>>>>>I mean especially owners with A/T,..I really think most NEVER ever
>
> hit
>
>>>VTEC.
>>>
>>>>>I mean I think most people just never rev that high (5~6 K) to get
>
> into
>
>>>>>VTEC...
>>>>
>>>>02 Odyssey, VTEC comes in between 4000 and 4500rpm...and Dr. Jekyll
>>>>turns into Mr. Hyde.
>>>>
>>>>I hit it all the time when I drive the van, and I rarely drive the
>
> van...
>
>>>>when I had the 92 Civic Si, I was into to every time I drove the car.
>>>>
>>>
>>>amen and booyah from me w/ 93 civic Si 5 spd
>>>VTEC almost every drive
>>>
>>>I do not know about 5-6K, mine feels like i can engage around 4-4.5 k
>>>under
>>>right conditions
>>>
>>>need it especially on highway here, everyone thinks they are racing
>>>somewhere and their goal in life is not to let you get in front of them,
>>>which is fine (just slip behind right) except there is another guy right
>>>behind that one with the same notion and the on-rampers get same
>
> treatment
>
>>>?
>>>where VTEC is handy
>>>
>>>i just wish i had that 1.6 DOHC 160hp monster in the civic, watch the
>
> jaws
>
>>>drop on those un-suspecting passer-bys

Get the new 2006 Civic Si; 197hp from the factory. "It'll reverse your
thinking." ;-) I personally would love to have one.

Jonathan

P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)

boobie

"Jamco"
> lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read the
> RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no true vtec)
> are considered SLOW

haha exactly
I have TSX (2.4 DOHC i-VTEC) and it IS a rather "slow" car **BUT** can be
driven fast !
You just gotta rev the hell out of it and yes, that engine begs for it.

Last car was good-ol' M/T Legend...VTEC all teh time, now the A/T TSX I
got goes into VTEC @ 6K
So unless I use the sportshift I've never been able to hit VTEC

robm

"Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Alrcf.5344$4C5.871563@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> robm wrote:
> > well relatively speaking 160 is a monster, i am about 120 hp w/vtec and
i
> > find it fun to drive so 160 hp ought to give quite a nice kick in the
pants
> > giving more fun (i would hope)
> >
> > 160hp RSX slow ? i think it is more relativity at work there, whats
the
> > comparison 220/240/260 hp
> >
> > now that would be monster in a civic
> >
> >
> > "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
> > news:LGpcf.136303$Io.76133@clgrps13...
> >
> >>lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read
the
> >>RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no true
vtec)
> >>are considered SLOW
> >>
> >>"robm" <not@here.net> wrote in message
> >>news:fxpcf.7079$AS6.4976@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> >>
> >>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:elmop-A067FE.05495509112005@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
> >>>
> >>>>In article <dkrpe4$26s$1@reader2.panix.com>,
> >>>> "boobie" <boobie.webdeveloper@mailnull.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have been wondering about VTEC engagement....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Judging by the manner the "majority" of people (in the US) drive
> >>>>>and narrowing down to Honda owners....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am pretty sure most Honda owners either very, very rarely or NEVER
> >>>>>hit VTEC,
> >>>>>I mean especially owners with A/T,..I really think most NEVER ever
> >
> > hit
> >
> >>>VTEC.
> >>>
> >>>>>I mean I think most people just never rev that high (5~6 K) to get
> >
> > into
> >
> >>>>>VTEC...
> >>>>
> >>>>02 Odyssey, VTEC comes in between 4000 and 4500rpm...and Dr. Jekyll
> >>>>turns into Mr. Hyde.
> >>>>
> >>>>I hit it all the time when I drive the van, and I rarely drive the
> >
> > van...
> >
> >>>>when I had the 92 Civic Si, I was into to every time I drove the car.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>amen and booyah from me w/ 93 civic Si 5 spd
> >>>VTEC almost every drive
> >>>
> >>>I do not know about 5-6K, mine feels like i can engage around 4-4.5 k
> >>>under
> >>>right conditions
> >>>
> >>>need it especially on highway here, everyone thinks they are racing
> >>>somewhere and their goal in life is not to let you get in front of
them,
> >>>which is fine (just slip behind right) except there is another guy
right
> >>>behind that one with the same notion and the on-rampers get same
> >
> > treatment
> >
> >>>?
> >>>where VTEC is handy
> >>>
> >>>i just wish i had that 1.6 DOHC 160hp monster in the civic, watch the
> >
> > jaws
> >
> >>>drop on those un-suspecting passer-bys
>
> Get the new 2006 Civic Si; 197hp from the factory. "It'll reverse your
> thinking." ;-) I personally would love to have one.
>
> Jonathan
>
> P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
> hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)

me too

Thats exactly why i try NOT to keep up with latest cars, I'll want one.
maybe i can go look and not touch, doubtful

Jim Yanik

"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in news:LGpcf.136303$Io.76133@clgrps13:

> lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read
> the RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no
> true vtec) are considered SLOW
>
> "robm" <not@here.net> wrote in message
> news:fxpcf.7079$AS6.4976@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>


>>
>> i just wish i had that 1.6 DOHC 160hp monster in the civic, watch the
>> jaws drop on those un-suspecting passer-bys
>>

A Civic (especially an older one)is probably a lot lighter than a newer
RSX.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik

Jonathan Upright <qaesar1@carolina.rr.com> wrote in
news:Alrcf.5344$4C5.871563@twister.southeast.rr.co m:

> Get the new 2006 Civic Si; 197hp from the factory. "It'll reverse
> your thinking." ;-) I personally would love to have one.
>
> Jonathan
>
> P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
> hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)
>

It may already incorporate some of those mods. (CAI and exhaust,cam.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

chris

My 2000 civic SiR (US Si) acts like a regular civic under 5500rpms. Once
vtec engages it's noticable, but I wouldn't call it a MONSTER.

chris


"boobie" <boobie.webdeveloper@mailnull.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jamco"
> > lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read
the
> > RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no true
vtec)
> > are considered SLOW
>
> haha exactly
> I have TSX (2.4 DOHC i-VTEC) and it IS a rather "slow" car **BUT** can be
> driven fast !
> You just gotta rev the hell out of it and yes, that engine begs for it.
>
> Last car was good-ol' M/T Legend...VTEC all teh time, now the A/T TSX I
> got goes into VTEC @ 6K
> So unless I use the sportshift I've never been able to hit VTEC
>
>

Jamco

yup, its basically a poor mans RSX...to bad they made it butt ugly

"Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Alrcf.5344$4C5.871563@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> robm wrote:
>> well relatively speaking 160 is a monster, i am about 120 hp w/vtec and i
>> find it fun to drive so 160 hp ought to give quite a nice kick in the
>> pants
>> giving more fun (i would hope)
>>
>> 160hp RSX slow ? i think it is more relativity at work there, whats the
>> comparison 220/240/260 hp
>>
>> now that would be monster in a civic
>>
>>
>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>> news:LGpcf.136303$Io.76133@clgrps13...
>>
>>>lol, kinda funny your calling the 160HP a monster, and yet if you read
>>>the
>>>RSX forums, the people with the base RSX (160HP Engine, and no true vtec)
>>>are considered SLOW
>>>
>>>"robm" <not@here.net> wrote in message
>>>news:fxpcf.7079$AS6.4976@newsread3.news.atl.ear thlink.net...
>>>
>>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:elmop-A067FE.05495509112005@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
>>>>
>>>>>In article <dkrpe4$26s$1@reader2.panix.com>,
>>>>> "boobie" <boobie.webdeveloper@mailnull.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have been wondering about VTEC engagement....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Judging by the manner the "majority" of people (in the US) drive
>>>>>>and narrowing down to Honda owners....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am pretty sure most Honda owners either very, very rarely or NEVER
>>>>>>hit VTEC,
>>>>>>I mean especially owners with A/T,..I really think most NEVER ever
>>
>> hit
>>
>>>>VTEC.
>>>>
>>>>>>I mean I think most people just never rev that high (5~6 K) to get
>>
>> into
>>
>>>>>>VTEC...
>>>>>
>>>>>02 Odyssey, VTEC comes in between 4000 and 4500rpm...and Dr. Jekyll
>>>>>turns into Mr. Hyde.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hit it all the time when I drive the van, and I rarely drive the
>>
>> van...
>>
>>>>>when I had the 92 Civic Si, I was into to every time I drove the car.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>amen and booyah from me w/ 93 civic Si 5 spd
>>>>VTEC almost every drive
>>>>
>>>>I do not know about 5-6K, mine feels like i can engage around 4-4.5 k
>>>>under
>>>>right conditions
>>>>
>>>>need it especially on highway here, everyone thinks they are racing
>>>>somewhere and their goal in life is not to let you get in front of them,
>>>>which is fine (just slip behind right) except there is another guy right
>>>>behind that one with the same notion and the on-rampers get same
>>
>> treatment
>>
>>>>?
>>>>where VTEC is handy
>>>>
>>>>i just wish i had that 1.6 DOHC 160hp monster in the civic, watch the
>>
>> jaws
>>
>>>>drop on those un-suspecting passer-bys
>
> Get the new 2006 Civic Si; 197hp from the factory. "It'll reverse your
> thinking." ;-) I personally would love to have one.
>
> Jonathan
>
> P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
> hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)

Sparky Spartacus

Jonathan Upright wrote:

<snip>

> P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
> hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)

Probably explode.

a95295823943

Except that the 06 Civic SI has LSD. The 2006 Civic SI is faster than
the RSX-S.

If you want to know how it would do with those mods, go to
clubrsx.com. Some guys are with the Cybernation Turbo and running
12's. A CAI/RH/Exhaust/Hondata should easily get it in the high 13's.


On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:05:41 GMT, "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote:

>yup, its basically a poor mans RSX...to bad they made it butt ugly
>>
>> Get the new 2006 Civic Si; 197hp from the factory. "It'll reverse your
>> thinking." ;-) I personally would love to have one.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
>> hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)
>

Jamco

but its still ugly!

"a95295823943" <a95295823943@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news7t9n1197jljmp7futegpoadfcsm0r1loj@4ax.com...
> Except that the 06 Civic SI has LSD. The 2006 Civic SI is faster than
> the RSX-S.
>
> If you want to know how it would do with those mods, go to
> clubrsx.com. Some guys are with the Cybernation Turbo and running
> 12's. A CAI/RH/Exhaust/Hondata should easily get it in the high 13's.
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:05:41 GMT, "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote:
>
>>yup, its basically a poor mans RSX...to bad they made it butt ugly
>>>
>>> Get the new 2006 Civic Si; 197hp from the factory. "It'll reverse your
>>> thinking." ;-) I personally would love to have one.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
>>> hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)
>>
>

TWW

"a95295823943" <a95295823943@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news7t9n1197jljmp7futegpoadfcsm0r1loj@4ax.com...
> Except that the 06 Civic SI has LSD. The 2006 Civic SI is faster than
> the RSX-S.
>
How do you know -- they are not on the showroom floors yet. I thought
Honda only had pre-production models which make for poor comparisons.


> If you want to know how it would do with those mods, go to
> clubrsx.com. Some guys are with the Cybernation Turbo and running
> 12's. A CAI/RH/Exhaust/Hondata should easily get it in the high 13's.
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:05:41 GMT, "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote:
>
> >yup, its basically a poor mans RSX...to bad they made it butt ugly
> >>
> >> Get the new 2006 Civic Si; 197hp from the factory. "It'll reverse your
> >> thinking." ;-) I personally would love to have one.
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >> P.S. Imagine what that engine would do with a cold-air intake,
> >> hi-performance exhaust system, new cam gear, turbo, etc. ;-)
> >
>

tegan.trejo@gmail.com

actually they hit dealers in less than amonth =x