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Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... > That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 > Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more > than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry > and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) > Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. Why do you write here? Why do you embarrass yourself? It's right up there with "I did not have sex with that woman" or "I promise no new taxes." |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:49:53 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry and >the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) > d> >mike hunt Compare Avalon to CV on Edmunds: http://tinyurl.com/fqke8 The market price is almost identical. The Avalon has more power, is generally better equipped and gets much better milage. Over 100,000 miles, the CV will burn about 1000 gallons more fuel than the Avalon. At the end of this period, the Avalon will probably be worth a few thousand dollars more. Outside the CV much larger and less maneuverable. Inside it is a little larger and carries one more passenger (if you don't mind front bench seats). It's biggest advantage is about a third more trunk space. The final advantage for the Avalon, it isn't primitive. |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:49:53 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry and >the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) > d> >mike hunt Compare Avalon to CV on Edmunds: http://tinyurl.com/fqke8 The market price is almost identical. The Avalon has more power, is generally better equipped and gets much better milage. Over 100,000 miles, the CV will burn about 1000 gallons more fuel than the Avalon. At the end of this period, the Avalon will probably be worth a few thousand dollars more. Outside the CV much larger and less maneuverable. Inside it is a little larger and carries one more passenger (if you don't mind front bench seats). It's biggest advantage is about a third more trunk space. The final advantage for the Avalon, it isn't primitive. |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:49:53 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry and >the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) > d> >mike hunt Compare Avalon to CV on Edmunds: http://tinyurl.com/fqke8 The market price is almost identical. The Avalon has more power, is generally better equipped and gets much better milage. Over 100,000 miles, the CV will burn about 1000 gallons more fuel than the Avalon. At the end of this period, the Avalon will probably be worth a few thousand dollars more. Outside the CV much larger and less maneuverable. Inside it is a little larger and carries one more passenger (if you don't mind front bench seats). It's biggest advantage is about a third more trunk space. The final advantage for the Avalon, it isn't primitive. |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:49:53 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry and >the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) > d> >mike hunt Compare Avalon to CV on Edmunds: http://tinyurl.com/fqke8 The market price is almost identical. The Avalon has more power, is generally better equipped and gets much better milage. Over 100,000 miles, the CV will burn about 1000 gallons more fuel than the Avalon. At the end of this period, the Avalon will probably be worth a few thousand dollars more. Outside the CV much larger and less maneuverable. Inside it is a little larger and carries one more passenger (if you don't mind front bench seats). It's biggest advantage is about a third more trunk space. The final advantage for the Avalon, it isn't primitive. |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Bob Palmer wrote:
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >> Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >> than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry >> and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >> > > Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. > Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. > > Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Bob Palmer wrote:
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >> Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >> than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry >> and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >> > > Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. > Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. > > Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Bob Palmer wrote:
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >> Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >> than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry >> and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >> > > Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. > Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. > > Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Bob Palmer wrote:
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message > news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped V8 >> Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot more >> than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or Camry >> and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >> > > Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. > Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. > > Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:80SFg.1959$u1.361@trnddc05... > Bob Palmer wrote: >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message >> news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >>> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped >>> V8 Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot >>> more than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or >>> Camry and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >>> >> >> Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. >> Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. >> >> Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. >> > > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the > moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according > to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after > discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. > Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. > Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. > > It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. > The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to > only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I > wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford > shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? > > John http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=2&id=28545 |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:80SFg.1959$u1.361@trnddc05... > Bob Palmer wrote: >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message >> news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >>> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped >>> V8 Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot >>> more than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or >>> Camry and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >>> >> >> Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. >> Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. >> >> Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. >> > > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the > moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according > to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after > discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. > Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. > Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. > > It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. > The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to > only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I > wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford > shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? > > John http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=2&id=28545 |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:80SFg.1959$u1.361@trnddc05... > Bob Palmer wrote: >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message >> news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >>> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped >>> V8 Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot >>> more than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or >>> Camry and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >>> >> >> Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. >> Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. >> >> Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. >> > > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the > moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according > to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after > discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. > Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. > Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. > > It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. > The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to > only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I > wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford > shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? > > John http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=2&id=28545 |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:80SFg.1959$u1.361@trnddc05... > Bob Palmer wrote: >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message >> news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >>> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped >>> V8 Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot >>> more than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or >>> Camry and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >>> >> >> Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. >> Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. >> >> Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. >> > > I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the > moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according > to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after > discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. > Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. > Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. > > It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. > The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to > only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I > wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford > shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? > > John http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=2&id=28545 |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
dbltap wrote:
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:80SFg.1959$u1.361@trnddc05... >> Bob Palmer wrote: >>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message >>> news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >>>> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped >>>> V8 Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot >>>> more than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or >>>> Camry and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >>>> >>> Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. >>> Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. >>> >>> Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. >>> >> I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the >> moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according >> to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after >> discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. >> Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. >> Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. >> >> It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. >> The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to >> only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I >> wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford >> shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? >> >> John > http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=2&id=28545 > > Yep, it sure looks like Ford is handing the police car business over to Daimler-Chrysler. An interesting side story is that just before Ford bought Volvo, Volvo had an active evaluation program going with the California Highway Patrol for a police version of the 850 turbo as a cop car. They are used as such in several European countries. When Ford bought Volvo they immediately killed the project as Ford saw no reason to foster competition for their lucrative Police Interceptor line. Yet another short sighted decision. The Crown Vic is an ancient design and the Police Interceptor's days have long been doomed. It was always just a question of when! John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
dbltap wrote:
> "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:80SFg.1959$u1.361@trnddc05... >> Bob Palmer wrote: >>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message >>> news:tvKcnenSRqL89nrZUSdV9g@ptd.net... >>>> That may be your opinion but one can drive home a new nicely equipped >>>> V8 Crown Vic, or a Grand Marquis, for 20K or less. You will spend a lot >>>> more than 20K to drive home a smaller, similarly equipped V6. Accord or >>>> Camry and the CV and GM are better all around vehicles. ;) >>>> >>> Ford Crown Victoria 2007 Base Price: $25,310-$28,305. >>> Mercury Marquis 2007 Base Price: $25,580-$30,235. >>> >>> Yeah, that's $20,000 or less. >>> >> I hate to agree with Mike, but he is correct on this one, at least for the >> moment. Ford has a * $6,000 * rebate on the Grand Marquis and according >> to carsdirect.com they will sell you a base model for $17,544 after >> discounts and rebate. That is for a car with a nominal MSRP of $25,555. >> Even a well equipped "LS Premium" version can be had for under $22,000. >> Not my kind of car, but a bargain if you like that sort of vehicle. >> >> It seems that Ford is giving these things away to try and clear inventory. >> The St. Thomas, Ontario factory which builds them has been reported to >> only be running one shift and is probably on the close-down list. I >> wonder what will become of the taxi and police vehicle market if Ford >> shuts that factory? Maybe they all move to Dodges ???? >> >> John > http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=2&id=28545 > > Yep, it sure looks like Ford is handing the police car business over to Daimler-Chrysler. An interesting side story is that just before Ford bought Volvo, Volvo had an active evaluation program going with the California Highway Patrol for a police version of the 850 turbo as a cop car. They are used as such in several European countries. When Ford bought Volvo they immediately killed the project as Ford saw no reason to foster competition for their lucrative Police Interceptor line. Yet another short sighted decision. The Crown Vic is an ancient design and the Police Interceptor's days have long been doomed. It was always just a question of when! John |
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