Run Car on Water Myth Busted
03-06-2009, 05:40 AM
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Run Car on Water Myth Busted
03-06-2009, 07:13 AM
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Re: Run Car on Water Myth Busted
<jenneylist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...
> http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
>
How could that be?!? Now I'll have to use an electric motor on the front
wheels and a generator on my rear wheels to get my free energy.
news:08601812-5672-4837-b7ee-e9ec87e398a1@q1g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...
> http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
>
How could that be?!? Now I'll have to use an electric motor on the front
wheels and a generator on my rear wheels to get my free energy.
03-06-2009, 08:29 AM
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Re: Run Car on Water Myth Busted
"Michael Pardee" <null@null.org> wrote in news:_J-
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> <jenneylist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:08601812-5672-4837-b7ee-e9ec87e398a1@q1g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...
>> http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
>>
>
> How could that be?!? Now I'll have to use an electric motor on the front
> wheels and a generator on my rear wheels to get my free energy.
>
>
>
My idea is to drive on roads that only go downhill. This way you would not
only use zero energy, but you'd use your generator to make surplus
electricity at the same time. Such a deal!
Perpetual motion machines? Phooey. My idea puts them to shame.
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dnVtZr4X2jizUnZ2dnUVZ_tbinZ2d@sedona.net:
> <jenneylist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:08601812-5672-4837-b7ee-e9ec87e398a1@q1g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...
>> http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
>>
>
> How could that be?!? Now I'll have to use an electric motor on the front
> wheels and a generator on my rear wheels to get my free energy.
>
>
>
My idea is to drive on roads that only go downhill. This way you would not
only use zero energy, but you'd use your generator to make surplus
electricity at the same time. Such a deal!
Perpetual motion machines? Phooey. My idea puts them to shame.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
03-08-2009, 08:12 AM
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Re: Run Car on Water Myth Busted
"Toommy" <retard.y@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> what about hydrogen cars or steam cars?
>
>
The outrageous thing about the "run your car on water" scam was the
perpetual motion (of the first type) aspect of it. In their scheme the
hydrogen was produced on board from electricity that was in turn produced by
the alternator and ultimately supplied by the engine output. The hydrogen
was used as a supplement to the gasoline normally supplied to the engine so
it worked just fine, but the system naturally reduced rather than increased
efficiency by virtue of the conversion losses.
Mike
03-10-2009, 10:48 PM
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Re: Run Car on Water Myth Busted
Thus spake "Michael Pardee" <null@null.org> :
>
>"Toommy" <retard.y@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>news:71hfo5Flbir0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> what about hydrogen cars or steam cars?
>>
>>
>
>The outrageous thing about the "run your car on water" scam was the
>perpetual motion (of the first type) aspect of it. In their scheme the
>hydrogen was produced on board from electricity that was in turn produced by
>the alternator and ultimately supplied by the engine output. The hydrogen
>was used as a supplement to the gasoline normally supplied to the engine so
>it worked just fine, but the system naturally reduced rather than increased
>efficiency by virtue of the conversion losses.
>
>Mike
>
In the Mythbusters episode, Jamie and Adam calculated that, using the
"water to hydrogen" kit they bought, which used grid power to generate
the hydrogen, they would need about 1 MW to produce enough hydrogen to
run the car, at idle, for 10 minutes.
Oh yeah, they had to find a car with a carb, since it didn't work with
injectors. And the sucker burped through the carb a couple of times.
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
Gold I'm thinking of.
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
>
>"Toommy" <retard.y@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>news:71hfo5Flbir0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> what about hydrogen cars or steam cars?
>>
>>
>
>The outrageous thing about the "run your car on water" scam was the
>perpetual motion (of the first type) aspect of it. In their scheme the
>hydrogen was produced on board from electricity that was in turn produced by
>the alternator and ultimately supplied by the engine output. The hydrogen
>was used as a supplement to the gasoline normally supplied to the engine so
>it worked just fine, but the system naturally reduced rather than increased
>efficiency by virtue of the conversion losses.
>
>Mike
>
In the Mythbusters episode, Jamie and Adam calculated that, using the
"water to hydrogen" kit they bought, which used grid power to generate
the hydrogen, they would need about 1 MW to produce enough hydrogen to
run the car, at idle, for 10 minutes.
Oh yeah, they had to find a car with a carb, since it didn't work with
injectors. And the sucker burped through the carb a couple of times.
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
Gold I'm thinking of.
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
03-12-2009, 10:59 PM
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Re: Run Car on Water Myth Busted
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:12:47 -0700, "Michael Pardee" <null@null.org>
wrote:
>
>"Toommy" <retard.y@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>news:71hfo5Flbir0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> what about hydrogen cars or steam cars?
>>
>>
>
>The outrageous thing about the "run your car on water" scam was the
>perpetual motion (of the first type) aspect of it. In their scheme the
>hydrogen was produced on board from electricity that was in turn produced by
>the alternator and ultimately supplied by the engine output. The hydrogen
>was used as a supplement to the gasoline normally supplied to the engine so
>it worked just fine, but the system naturally reduced rather than increased
>efficiency by virtue of the conversion losses.
>
>Mike
>
I am not sure, but I think the theory is that you only engage the
electrolysis when you are slowing down. At that time, the kinetic
energy is being wasted anyway. Basically it is like a hybrid except,
even the biggest alternator you can get wouldn't produce enough
hydrogen under those conditions to have any noticeable impact on fuel
economy. Needless to say, it's a fraud.
wrote:
>
>"Toommy" <retard.y@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>news:71hfo5Flbir0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> what about hydrogen cars or steam cars?
>>
>>
>
>The outrageous thing about the "run your car on water" scam was the
>perpetual motion (of the first type) aspect of it. In their scheme the
>hydrogen was produced on board from electricity that was in turn produced by
>the alternator and ultimately supplied by the engine output. The hydrogen
>was used as a supplement to the gasoline normally supplied to the engine so
>it worked just fine, but the system naturally reduced rather than increased
>efficiency by virtue of the conversion losses.
>
>Mike
>
I am not sure, but I think the theory is that you only engage the
electrolysis when you are slowing down. At that time, the kinetic
energy is being wasted anyway. Basically it is like a hybrid except,
even the biggest alternator you can get wouldn't produce enough
hydrogen under those conditions to have any noticeable impact on fuel
economy. Needless to say, it's a fraud.
03-19-2009, 01:12 AM
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Re: Run Car on Water Myth Busted
On Mar 6, 6:40 am, jenneyl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
It must be true. I remember when Detroit used to make those big huge
cars, and people used to say "there goes a big boat".
> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
It must be true. I remember when Detroit used to make those big huge
cars, and people used to say "there goes a big boat".
04-05-2009, 01:47 AM
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Re: Run Car on Water Myth Busted
Thus spake z <gzuckier@snail-mail.net> :
>On Mar 6, 6:40 am, jenneyl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
>
>It must be true. I remember when Detroit used to make those big huge
>cars, and people used to say "there goes a big boat".
Every year, hundreds of people die thinking they can run their cars on
water. Even an inch of running water is enough to sweep a car away.
Oh, wait, that's not what they meant? Never mind.
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
Gold I'm thinking of.
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
>On Mar 6, 6:40 am, jenneyl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Run Car on Water Myth Busted...http://automotiveguides.googlepages....er_myth_busted
>
>It must be true. I remember when Detroit used to make those big huge
>cars, and people used to say "there goes a big boat".
Every year, hundreds of people die thinking they can run their cars on
water. Even an inch of running water is enough to sweep a car away.
Oh, wait, that's not what they meant? Never mind.
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and Olympic Gold isn't the only
Gold I'm thinking of.
Hi, I'm Michael Phelps and when I'm on Maui, Wowwie.
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