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Eric 06-22-2006 04:47 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
Elle wrote:
>
> "Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote
> > Elle wrote:
> >>
> >> Without serious modifications, my 91 Civic (among other
> >> Honda models) permits only one alignment angle to be
> >> adjusted: Toe.
> >>
> >> Has anyone here set the toe themselves? If so, what tools
> >> did you use or devise? Was your effort successful as
> >> indicated by tire wear and steering feel?
> >>

> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > If you've had the rear trailing arms replaced, then you
> > need to have the
> > rear toe adjusted.

>
> I personally replaced the trailing arm bushings on Monday.
>


I'm just a little bit curious. Exactly which bushings are you referring to,
the ones labeled as part #12 in this diagram http://tinyurl.com/fwt4y or the
large one in the middle of the rear trailing arm through which bolt #26 goes
to help mount the trailing arm to the car?

Eric

Elle 06-22-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> I personally replaced the trailing arm bushings on
>> Monday.
>>

>
> I'm just a little bit curious. Exactly which bushings are
> you referring to,
> the ones labeled as part #12 in this diagram
> http://tinyurl.com/fwt4y or the
> large one in the middle of the rear trailing arm through
> which bolt #26 goes
> to help mount the trailing arm to the car?


I replaced both, but the one to which I refer above is the
larger one (with bolts #26 going through it), Honda part
#52385-SR3000 , only available in the last several years or
so. Schley produced a special (and super fast and super
effective) tool for removing it only in the last couple of
years. I have a fuller discussion at the bottom of
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lio...tml#tabushings ,
with some links to excellent sites with photos of the
process.

The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place, for
the most part. That is, no brake lines need be disconnected
and plugged nor bled.




Elle 06-22-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> I personally replaced the trailing arm bushings on
>> Monday.
>>

>
> I'm just a little bit curious. Exactly which bushings are
> you referring to,
> the ones labeled as part #12 in this diagram
> http://tinyurl.com/fwt4y or the
> large one in the middle of the rear trailing arm through
> which bolt #26 goes
> to help mount the trailing arm to the car?


I replaced both, but the one to which I refer above is the
larger one (with bolts #26 going through it), Honda part
#52385-SR3000 , only available in the last several years or
so. Schley produced a special (and super fast and super
effective) tool for removing it only in the last couple of
years. I have a fuller discussion at the bottom of
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lio...tml#tabushings ,
with some links to excellent sites with photos of the
process.

The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place, for
the most part. That is, no brake lines need be disconnected
and plugged nor bled.




Elle 06-22-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote
> Elle wrote:
>> I personally replaced the trailing arm bushings on
>> Monday.
>>

>
> I'm just a little bit curious. Exactly which bushings are
> you referring to,
> the ones labeled as part #12 in this diagram
> http://tinyurl.com/fwt4y or the
> large one in the middle of the rear trailing arm through
> which bolt #26 goes
> to help mount the trailing arm to the car?


I replaced both, but the one to which I refer above is the
larger one (with bolts #26 going through it), Honda part
#52385-SR3000 , only available in the last several years or
so. Schley produced a special (and super fast and super
effective) tool for removing it only in the last couple of
years. I have a fuller discussion at the bottom of
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lio...tml#tabushings ,
with some links to excellent sites with photos of the
process.

The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place, for
the most part. That is, no brake lines need be disconnected
and plugged nor bled.




TeGGeR® 06-22-2006 11:30 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:S1xmg.9424$lf4.2536@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net:


>
> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place, for
> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be disconnected
> and plugged nor bled.
>
>



The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be disconnected when you
remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking brake either
unbolts or unhooks.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 06-22-2006 11:30 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:S1xmg.9424$lf4.2536@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net:


>
> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place, for
> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be disconnected
> and plugged nor bled.
>
>



The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be disconnected when you
remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking brake either
unbolts or unhooks.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 06-22-2006 11:30 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:S1xmg.9424$lf4.2536@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net:


>
> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place, for
> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be disconnected
> and plugged nor bled.
>
>



The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be disconnected when you
remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking brake either
unbolts or unhooks.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Elle 06-22-2006 11:38 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place,
>> for
>> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be
>> disconnected
>> and plugged nor bled.
>>
>>

>
>
> The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be
> disconnected when you
> remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking
> brake either
> unbolts or unhooks.


I meant those who intend to take the trailing arm to a shop
or put it into a vise to press out the big bushing (and then
install a new one) would have to disconnect the brake lines.

With the (relatively new) Schley tool, only five bolts need
be removed.



Elle 06-22-2006 11:38 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place,
>> for
>> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be
>> disconnected
>> and plugged nor bled.
>>
>>

>
>
> The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be
> disconnected when you
> remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking
> brake either
> unbolts or unhooks.


I meant those who intend to take the trailing arm to a shop
or put it into a vise to press out the big bushing (and then
install a new one) would have to disconnect the brake lines.

With the (relatively new) Schley tool, only five bolts need
be removed.



Elle 06-22-2006 11:38 AM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place,
>> for
>> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be
>> disconnected
>> and plugged nor bled.
>>
>>

>
>
> The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be
> disconnected when you
> remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking
> brake either
> unbolts or unhooks.


I meant those who intend to take the trailing arm to a shop
or put it into a vise to press out the big bushing (and then
install a new one) would have to disconnect the brake lines.

With the (relatively new) Schley tool, only five bolts need
be removed.



TeGGeR® 06-22-2006 12:14 PM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:LPymg.10167$o4.2487@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>>> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place,
>>> for
>>> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be
>>> disconnected
>>> and plugged nor bled.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be
>> disconnected when you
>> remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking
>> brake either
>> unbolts or unhooks.

>
> I meant those who intend to take the trailing arm to a shop
> or put it into a vise to press out the big bushing (and then
> install a new one) would have to disconnect the brake lines.




It just occurred to me: You're partially right. Opening the hydraulics
*would* be necessary on a drum-brake car if you were to remove the trailing
arm from the car entirely. If you had rear *disc* brakes, you do *not* need
to open the hydraulics.

Finally I find ONE advantage to having rear disc brakes! LOL



>
> With the (relatively new) Schley tool, only five bolts need
> be removed.
>



Sounds like a boon for drum-brake equipped cars.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 06-22-2006 12:14 PM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:LPymg.10167$o4.2487@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>>> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place,
>>> for
>>> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be
>>> disconnected
>>> and plugged nor bled.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be
>> disconnected when you
>> remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking
>> brake either
>> unbolts or unhooks.

>
> I meant those who intend to take the trailing arm to a shop
> or put it into a vise to press out the big bushing (and then
> install a new one) would have to disconnect the brake lines.




It just occurred to me: You're partially right. Opening the hydraulics
*would* be necessary on a drum-brake car if you were to remove the trailing
arm from the car entirely. If you had rear *disc* brakes, you do *not* need
to open the hydraulics.

Finally I find ONE advantage to having rear disc brakes! LOL



>
> With the (relatively new) Schley tool, only five bolts need
> be removed.
>



Sounds like a boon for drum-brake equipped cars.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 06-22-2006 12:14 PM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
news:LPymg.10167$o4.2487@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>>> The bigger TA bushing is replaced with the TA in place,
>>> for
>>> the most part. That is, no brake lines need be
>>> disconnected
>>> and plugged nor bled.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> The brake lines and hydraulics don't need to be
>> disconnected when you
>> remove the trailing arm. Everything including the parking
>> brake either
>> unbolts or unhooks.

>
> I meant those who intend to take the trailing arm to a shop
> or put it into a vise to press out the big bushing (and then
> install a new one) would have to disconnect the brake lines.




It just occurred to me: You're partially right. Opening the hydraulics
*would* be necessary on a drum-brake car if you were to remove the trailing
arm from the car entirely. If you had rear *disc* brakes, you do *not* need
to open the hydraulics.

Finally I find ONE advantage to having rear disc brakes! LOL



>
> With the (relatively new) Schley tool, only five bolts need
> be removed.
>



Sounds like a boon for drum-brake equipped cars.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

R Flowers 06-22-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97EA7CC498C17tegger@207.14.116.130...
> Finally I find ONE advantage to having rear disc brakes! LOL
>


I'm a lurker in a.a.h., and I have noticed that you seem very knowledgable.
So, your comment about rear disc breake intrigues me. I thought rear discs
were desirable? If not, why not?

Thanks,

-- R Flowers



R Flowers 06-22-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Setting Toe
 
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97EA7CC498C17tegger@207.14.116.130...
> Finally I find ONE advantage to having rear disc brakes! LOL
>


I'm a lurker in a.a.h., and I have noticed that you seem very knowledgable.
So, your comment about rear disc breake intrigues me. I thought rear discs
were desirable? If not, why not?

Thanks,

-- R Flowers




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