Fluffy

If vehicle manufacturers can sell their vehicles "as is" and still get the
same demand, they would do it because less monkeys on their back if
something goes wrong (which does on occasion no matter who the manufacturer
is).

I believe that Honda felt that they have built up a reputation then passed
on the extra peace of mind profit to the dealership in a form of "extended
warranty"

It cannot be just perceived reliability alone:

Toyota has a 3 years / 36,000 miles basic and 5 years / 6,0000 miles on
power train (engine tranny, fwd, rwd, seatbelts, airbags)

Lexus 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and 6 years and 70,000 miles on power
train.

Acura 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and power train

"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vu8esnhco4gg94@corp.supernews.com...
> It isn't difficult to understand why Hyundai needs to offer a 10-year,
> 100,000 mile warranty to induce people to by their cars: they have a poor
> reliability record. Honda, on the other hand, has a great reliability
> record, so it doesn't need to offer a long warranty. People have
confidence
> in the quality of the car. VWs and Mitsubishis are somewhere in between
> Honda and Hyundai is perceived quality, so their warranties reflect that.
>
>
> "JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while
most
> > of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> > Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
> >
> > Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any
ideas?
> >
> >
>
>

Fluffy

If vehicle manufacturers can sell their vehicles "as is" and still get the
same demand, they would do it because less monkeys on their back if
something goes wrong (which does on occasion no matter who the manufacturer
is).

I believe that Honda felt that they have built up a reputation then passed
on the extra peace of mind profit to the dealership in a form of "extended
warranty"

It cannot be just perceived reliability alone:

Toyota has a 3 years / 36,000 miles basic and 5 years / 6,0000 miles on
power train (engine tranny, fwd, rwd, seatbelts, airbags)

Lexus 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and 6 years and 70,000 miles on power
train.

Acura 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and power train

"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vu8esnhco4gg94@corp.supernews.com...
> It isn't difficult to understand why Hyundai needs to offer a 10-year,
> 100,000 mile warranty to induce people to by their cars: they have a poor
> reliability record. Honda, on the other hand, has a great reliability
> record, so it doesn't need to offer a long warranty. People have
confidence
> in the quality of the car. VWs and Mitsubishis are somewhere in between
> Honda and Hyundai is perceived quality, so their warranties reflect that.
>
>
> "JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while
most
> > of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> > Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
> >
> > Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any
ideas?
> >
> >
>
>

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?

Honda doesn't need a long warranty to sell cars. The others do need
that gimmick to convince people that they won't have to shell out money
for 5 years.

With Honda, you're buying a Honda--the chances are extremely slim that
you'll have to shell out for repairs within 5 years.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?

Honda doesn't need a long warranty to sell cars. The others do need
that gimmick to convince people that they won't have to shell out money
for 5 years.

With Honda, you're buying a Honda--the chances are extremely slim that
you'll have to shell out for repairs within 5 years.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?

Honda doesn't need a long warranty to sell cars. The others do need
that gimmick to convince people that they won't have to shell out money
for 5 years.

With Honda, you're buying a Honda--the chances are extremely slim that
you'll have to shell out for repairs within 5 years.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?

Honda doesn't need a long warranty to sell cars. The others do need
that gimmick to convince people that they won't have to shell out money
for 5 years.

With Honda, you're buying a Honda--the chances are extremely slim that
you'll have to shell out for repairs within 5 years.

L Cramer

I would never suggest a marketing decision as complex for auto makers as
this is any one thing alone, including realibility. However, it is Honda's
perceived, and actual, reliability that underlies their ability to offer a
shorter warranty than many other car makers.

Yes, Honda's extended warranty is intended to be a profit center for the
dealers. But Honda was forced into doing it. On their own, dealers were
offering the plans that were often of questionable reliabiltiy. These
policies reflected poorly on Honda even though they had nothing to do with
them.



"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rHYEb.610145$Fm2.551761@attbi_s04...
> If vehicle manufacturers can sell their vehicles "as is" and still get the
> same demand, they would do it because less monkeys on their back if
> something goes wrong (which does on occasion no matter who the
manufacturer
> is).
>
> I believe that Honda felt that they have built up a reputation then passed
> on the extra peace of mind profit to the dealership in a form of "extended
> warranty"
>
> It cannot be just perceived reliability alone:
>
> Toyota has a 3 years / 36,000 miles basic and 5 years / 6,0000 miles on
> power train (engine tranny, fwd, rwd, seatbelts, airbags)
>
> Lexus 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and 6 years and 70,000 miles on power
> train.
>
> Acura 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and power train
>
> "L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vu8esnhco4gg94@corp.supernews.com...
> > It isn't difficult to understand why Hyundai needs to offer a 10-year,
> > 100,000 mile warranty to induce people to by their cars: they have a
poor
> > reliability record. Honda, on the other hand, has a great reliability
> > record, so it doesn't need to offer a long warranty. People have
> confidence
> > in the quality of the car. VWs and Mitsubishis are somewhere in between
> > Honda and Hyundai is perceived quality, so their warranties reflect
that.
> >
> >
> > "JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > news:PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while
> most
> > > of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the
Mitusbishi
> > > Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
> > >
> > > Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any
> ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

L Cramer

I would never suggest a marketing decision as complex for auto makers as
this is any one thing alone, including realibility. However, it is Honda's
perceived, and actual, reliability that underlies their ability to offer a
shorter warranty than many other car makers.

Yes, Honda's extended warranty is intended to be a profit center for the
dealers. But Honda was forced into doing it. On their own, dealers were
offering the plans that were often of questionable reliabiltiy. These
policies reflected poorly on Honda even though they had nothing to do with
them.



"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rHYEb.610145$Fm2.551761@attbi_s04...
> If vehicle manufacturers can sell their vehicles "as is" and still get the
> same demand, they would do it because less monkeys on their back if
> something goes wrong (which does on occasion no matter who the
manufacturer
> is).
>
> I believe that Honda felt that they have built up a reputation then passed
> on the extra peace of mind profit to the dealership in a form of "extended
> warranty"
>
> It cannot be just perceived reliability alone:
>
> Toyota has a 3 years / 36,000 miles basic and 5 years / 6,0000 miles on
> power train (engine tranny, fwd, rwd, seatbelts, airbags)
>
> Lexus 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and 6 years and 70,000 miles on power
> train.
>
> Acura 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and power train
>
> "L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vu8esnhco4gg94@corp.supernews.com...
> > It isn't difficult to understand why Hyundai needs to offer a 10-year,
> > 100,000 mile warranty to induce people to by their cars: they have a
poor
> > reliability record. Honda, on the other hand, has a great reliability
> > record, so it doesn't need to offer a long warranty. People have
> confidence
> > in the quality of the car. VWs and Mitsubishis are somewhere in between
> > Honda and Hyundai is perceived quality, so their warranties reflect
that.
> >
> >
> > "JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > news:PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while
> most
> > > of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the
Mitusbishi
> > > Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
> > >
> > > Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any
> ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

L Cramer

I would never suggest a marketing decision as complex for auto makers as
this is any one thing alone, including realibility. However, it is Honda's
perceived, and actual, reliability that underlies their ability to offer a
shorter warranty than many other car makers.

Yes, Honda's extended warranty is intended to be a profit center for the
dealers. But Honda was forced into doing it. On their own, dealers were
offering the plans that were often of questionable reliabiltiy. These
policies reflected poorly on Honda even though they had nothing to do with
them.



"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rHYEb.610145$Fm2.551761@attbi_s04...
> If vehicle manufacturers can sell their vehicles "as is" and still get the
> same demand, they would do it because less monkeys on their back if
> something goes wrong (which does on occasion no matter who the
manufacturer
> is).
>
> I believe that Honda felt that they have built up a reputation then passed
> on the extra peace of mind profit to the dealership in a form of "extended
> warranty"
>
> It cannot be just perceived reliability alone:
>
> Toyota has a 3 years / 36,000 miles basic and 5 years / 6,0000 miles on
> power train (engine tranny, fwd, rwd, seatbelts, airbags)
>
> Lexus 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and 6 years and 70,000 miles on power
> train.
>
> Acura 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and power train
>
> "L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vu8esnhco4gg94@corp.supernews.com...
> > It isn't difficult to understand why Hyundai needs to offer a 10-year,
> > 100,000 mile warranty to induce people to by their cars: they have a
poor
> > reliability record. Honda, on the other hand, has a great reliability
> > record, so it doesn't need to offer a long warranty. People have
> confidence
> > in the quality of the car. VWs and Mitsubishis are somewhere in between
> > Honda and Hyundai is perceived quality, so their warranties reflect
that.
> >
> >
> > "JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > news:PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while
> most
> > > of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the
Mitusbishi
> > > Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
> > >
> > > Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any
> ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

L Cramer

I would never suggest a marketing decision as complex for auto makers as
this is any one thing alone, including realibility. However, it is Honda's
perceived, and actual, reliability that underlies their ability to offer a
shorter warranty than many other car makers.

Yes, Honda's extended warranty is intended to be a profit center for the
dealers. But Honda was forced into doing it. On their own, dealers were
offering the plans that were often of questionable reliabiltiy. These
policies reflected poorly on Honda even though they had nothing to do with
them.



"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rHYEb.610145$Fm2.551761@attbi_s04...
> If vehicle manufacturers can sell their vehicles "as is" and still get the
> same demand, they would do it because less monkeys on their back if
> something goes wrong (which does on occasion no matter who the
manufacturer
> is).
>
> I believe that Honda felt that they have built up a reputation then passed
> on the extra peace of mind profit to the dealership in a form of "extended
> warranty"
>
> It cannot be just perceived reliability alone:
>
> Toyota has a 3 years / 36,000 miles basic and 5 years / 6,0000 miles on
> power train (engine tranny, fwd, rwd, seatbelts, airbags)
>
> Lexus 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and 6 years and 70,000 miles on power
> train.
>
> Acura 4 years / 50,000 miles basic and power train
>
> "L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vu8esnhco4gg94@corp.supernews.com...
> > It isn't difficult to understand why Hyundai needs to offer a 10-year,
> > 100,000 mile warranty to induce people to by their cars: they have a
poor
> > reliability record. Honda, on the other hand, has a great reliability
> > record, so it doesn't need to offer a long warranty. People have
> confidence
> > in the quality of the car. VWs and Mitsubishis are somewhere in between
> > Honda and Hyundai is perceived quality, so their warranties reflect
that.
> >
> >
> > "JC Perdigao" <perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > news:PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while
> most
> > > of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the
Mitusbishi
> > > Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
> > >
> > > Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any
> ideas?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Bill B. Johnson

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "JC Perdigao"
<perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
>
> Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any ideas?

Honda and Toyota for the past several years have been in the top five with
their Accord and Cambry models in terms of yearly sales. As long as that
continues to be the case--they have no need to change their current
policies in relation to warranty programs.

Bill B. Johnson

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "JC Perdigao"
<perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
>
> Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any ideas?

Honda and Toyota for the past several years have been in the top five with
their Accord and Cambry models in terms of yearly sales. As long as that
continues to be the case--they have no need to change their current
policies in relation to warranty programs.

Bill B. Johnson

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "JC Perdigao"
<perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
>
> Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any ideas?

Honda and Toyota for the past several years have been in the top five with
their Accord and Cambry models in terms of yearly sales. As long as that
continues to be the case--they have no need to change their current
policies in relation to warranty programs.

Bill B. Johnson

In article <PmPEb.484$uh1.178@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "JC Perdigao"
<perdigaoj@netscape.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Why does the Accord only carry a warranty of 36k or 3 years and while most
> of it's competitors have 50k or 5 years for VW Jetta even the Mitusbishi
> Galant has a 7 year 100k warranty?
>
> Yet the Honda Accord made the 10 top vehicles this year agin... any ideas?

Honda and Toyota for the past several years have been in the top five with
their Accord and Cambry models in terms of yearly sales. As long as that
continues to be the case--they have no need to change their current
policies in relation to warranty programs.