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emil.santos@gmail.com 10-21-2006 01:51 PM

Shuddering when taking off
 
I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.

When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?

Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
it shake all the time?

Thanks!


Tony Hwang 10-21-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>

Hi,
Clutch?

Tony Hwang 10-21-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>

Hi,
Clutch?

Tony Hwang 10-21-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>

Hi,
Clutch?

Tony Hwang 10-21-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>

Hi,
Clutch?

John Horner 10-21-2006 07:04 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>



Hmmm, hard to say from just reading about it, but maybe you have a
clutch problem. A badly worn clutch or a clutch with oil on it from a
leaking engine or transmission seal can cause a judder on start up.

A cracked motor mount should be replaced. It probably isn't the cause
of your judder, but it sounds like the replacement mount might not have
been of very high quality. There are a lot of short-lived rubber
aftermarket parts on the market!


John Horner 10-21-2006 07:04 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>



Hmmm, hard to say from just reading about it, but maybe you have a
clutch problem. A badly worn clutch or a clutch with oil on it from a
leaking engine or transmission seal can cause a judder on start up.

A cracked motor mount should be replaced. It probably isn't the cause
of your judder, but it sounds like the replacement mount might not have
been of very high quality. There are a lot of short-lived rubber
aftermarket parts on the market!


John Horner 10-21-2006 07:04 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>



Hmmm, hard to say from just reading about it, but maybe you have a
clutch problem. A badly worn clutch or a clutch with oil on it from a
leaking engine or transmission seal can cause a judder on start up.

A cracked motor mount should be replaced. It probably isn't the cause
of your judder, but it sounds like the replacement mount might not have
been of very high quality. There are a lot of short-lived rubber
aftermarket parts on the market!


John Horner 10-21-2006 07:04 PM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
emil.santos@gmail.com wrote:
> I've had this frustrating problem with my 95 Civic (SOHC 1.6L PGM-FI
> non-vtec D16 variant, manual). It sometimes shakes/shudders when taking
> off from a full stop. I could prevent the shuddering by stepping on the
> gas more. I've replaced plugs, wires, rotor, PCV, timing belt, fuel
> filter (all Honda parts), but sometimes the problem returns.
>
> When the timing belt was being replaced, I noticed that the rubber on
> the driver-side engine mount was cracked, about half-way through. Two
> different mechanics have told me that since the mount is relatively
> new, the crack couldn't cause the shaking, and that if it did, it would
> also shake at idle, which it doesn't. Is this true?
>
> Please enlighten me, if the cracked mount caused the shaking, wouldn't
> it shake all the time?
>
> Thanks!
>



Hmmm, hard to say from just reading about it, but maybe you have a
clutch problem. A badly worn clutch or a clutch with oil on it from a
leaking engine or transmission seal can cause a judder on start up.

A cracked motor mount should be replaced. It probably isn't the cause
of your judder, but it sounds like the replacement mount might not have
been of very high quality. There are a lot of short-lived rubber
aftermarket parts on the market!


emil.santos@gmail.com 10-22-2006 03:37 AM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 

Thanks. Will have the clutch checked ASAP.


emil.santos@gmail.com 10-22-2006 03:37 AM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 

Thanks. Will have the clutch checked ASAP.


emil.santos@gmail.com 10-22-2006 03:37 AM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 

Thanks. Will have the clutch checked ASAP.


emil.santos@gmail.com 10-22-2006 03:37 AM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 

Thanks. Will have the clutch checked ASAP.


TE Chea 10-23-2006 03:37 AM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
My F20A had this, cause was a crack in distributor's induction
*coil's insulating lacquer.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...13sm40_f02.gif
#18. 1 electrician said copper wire's lacquer, given too much
heat, will crack then *'s high voltage will escape to -ve ground
= no spark.

Fitting * inside distributor is a design flaw ; beside lacquer's
crack, * produces fewer amperes when hot ( proof : if 1 glues
hsinks or use wires to cool distributor & * inside, sparks will
be bigger, & exhaust noise will drop ).

Better carry a spark plug, to chk for a spark, if engine stalls.



TE Chea 10-23-2006 03:37 AM

Re: Shuddering when taking off
 
My F20A had this, cause was a crack in distributor's induction
*coil's insulating lacquer.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...13sm40_f02.gif
#18. 1 electrician said copper wire's lacquer, given too much
heat, will crack then *'s high voltage will escape to -ve ground
= no spark.

Fitting * inside distributor is a design flaw ; beside lacquer's
crack, * produces fewer amperes when hot ( proof : if 1 glues
hsinks or use wires to cool distributor & * inside, sparks will
be bigger, & exhaust noise will drop ).

Better carry a spark plug, to chk for a spark, if engine stalls.




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