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Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
> Guest wrote:
>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>> >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire was >>> >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >> > >> > how do you know it would melt? > > Well it melted twice now. > > how much current is it conducting? > > That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. > ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, failure to fix could lead to a car fire. volts are different to amps. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
> Guest wrote:
>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>> >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire was >>> >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >> > >> > how do you know it would melt? > > Well it melted twice now. > > how much current is it conducting? > > That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. > ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, failure to fix could lead to a car fire. volts are different to amps. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
> Guest wrote:
>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>> >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire was >>> >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >> > >> > how do you know it would melt? > > Well it melted twice now. > > how much current is it conducting? > > That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. > ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, failure to fix could lead to a car fire. volts are different to amps. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam wrote:
> > Guest wrote: >>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>> speaker wire? >>> > >>> > how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. > > ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. > total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring > it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, > failure to fix could lead to a car fire. Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not blown. " Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from electrical devices. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam wrote:
> > Guest wrote: >>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>> speaker wire? >>> > >>> > how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. > > ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. > total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring > it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, > failure to fix could lead to a car fire. Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not blown. " Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from electrical devices. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam wrote:
> > Guest wrote: >>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>> speaker wire? >>> > >>> > how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. > > ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. > total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring > it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, > failure to fix could lead to a car fire. Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not blown. " Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from electrical devices. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam wrote:
> > Guest wrote: >>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>> speaker wire? >>> > >>> > how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. > > ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. > total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring > it until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, > failure to fix could lead to a car fire. Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not blown. " Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from electrical devices. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:FLednW8Wl__9SDrYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@sedona.net.. . > "Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message > news:eBPph.19204$sR.2854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t... >> >> >> -- >> This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com >> >> http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 >> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >> news:g4CdnX8AxJ1HCDrYnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >>> Guest wrote: >>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire >>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >>> >>> how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> > > Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting > power from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or > larger. At 10A use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage > wire. The fuse exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you > already have a problem. > > The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating > wire is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the light > is bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing. > > Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily. > Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No > fun. > > Mike > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:FLednW8Wl__9SDrYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@sedona.net.. . > "Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message > news:eBPph.19204$sR.2854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t... >> >> >> -- >> This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com >> >> http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 >> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >> news:g4CdnX8AxJ1HCDrYnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >>> Guest wrote: >>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire >>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >>> >>> how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> > > Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting > power from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or > larger. At 10A use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage > wire. The fuse exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you > already have a problem. > > The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating > wire is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the light > is bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing. > > Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily. > Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No > fun. > > Mike > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:FLednW8Wl__9SDrYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@sedona.net.. . > "Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message > news:eBPph.19204$sR.2854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t... >> >> >> -- >> This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com >> >> http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 >> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >> news:g4CdnX8AxJ1HCDrYnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >>> Guest wrote: >>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire >>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >>> >>> how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> > > Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting > power from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or > larger. At 10A use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage > wire. The fuse exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you > already have a problem. > > The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating > wire is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the light > is bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing. > > Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily. > Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No > fun. > > Mike > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:FLednW8Wl__9SDrYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@sedona.net.. . > "Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message > news:eBPph.19204$sR.2854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t... >> >> >> -- >> This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com >> >> http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 >> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >> news:g4CdnX8AxJ1HCDrYnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >>> Guest wrote: >>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire >>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >>> >>> how do you know it would melt? >> >> Well it melted twice now. >> >> how much current is it conducting? >> >> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> > > Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting > power from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or > larger. At 10A use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage > wire. The fuse exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you > already have a problem. > > The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating > wire is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the light > is bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing. > > Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily. > Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No > fun. > > Mike > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:a%Wph.58419$qO4.44508@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net... > jim beam wrote: >> > Guest wrote: >>>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>>> speaker wire? >>>> > >>>> > how do you know it would melt? >>> >>> Well it melted twice now. >>> >>> how much current is it conducting? >>> >>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> >> ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. >> total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring it >> until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, >> failure to fix could lead to a car fire. > > Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). > > As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 > > "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light > did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse > and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem > and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the > cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell > hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that > the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the > socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted > again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not > blown. " > > Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from > electrical devices. you. I cam for advice, not smart ass comments. Michael Pardee gave advice. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:a%Wph.58419$qO4.44508@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net... > jim beam wrote: >> > Guest wrote: >>>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>>> speaker wire? >>>> > >>>> > how do you know it would melt? >>> >>> Well it melted twice now. >>> >>> how much current is it conducting? >>> >>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> >> ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. >> total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring it >> until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, >> failure to fix could lead to a car fire. > > Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). > > As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 > > "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light > did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse > and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem > and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the > cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell > hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that > the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the > socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted > again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not > blown. " > > Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from > electrical devices. you. I cam for advice, not smart ass comments. Michael Pardee gave advice. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:a%Wph.58419$qO4.44508@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net... > jim beam wrote: >> > Guest wrote: >>>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>>> speaker wire? >>>> > >>>> > how do you know it would melt? >>> >>> Well it melted twice now. >>> >>> how much current is it conducting? >>> >>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> >> ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. >> total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring it >> until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, >> failure to fix could lead to a car fire. > > Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). > > As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 > > "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light > did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse > and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem > and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the > cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell > hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that > the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the > socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted > again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not > blown. " > > Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from > electrical devices. you. I cam for advice, not smart ass comments. Michael Pardee gave advice. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
-- This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 "Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:a%Wph.58419$qO4.44508@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net... > jim beam wrote: >> > Guest wrote: >>>>> >> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED >>>>> light on >> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the >>>>> "OEM" LED wire was >> so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper >>>>> speaker wire? >>>> > >>>> > how do you know it would melt? >>> >>> Well it melted twice now. >>> >>> how much current is it conducting? >>> >>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >> >> ok, if the wire melted, there's something wrong with the light unit. >> total current should be under 1 amp. well under. don't try re-wiring it >> until you sort it out - probably replace it. as pointed out by mike, >> failure to fix could lead to a car fire. > > Here, I believe, is the problem (as I mentioned in my first response). > > As written by Guest on 1/09/2007 > > "I installed a spoiler on my car and when I first installed it, the light > did not come one and I later found out that I put the wires on in reverse > and blew a fuse. Some of the wiring even melted. I corrected the problem > and it was working correctly. Then yesterday, I bought a splitter for the > cigarette light plug so that I can plug in a radar detector and a cell > hone at the same time. As I was backing out of the lot, I noticed that > the spoiler light was not on. I had just plugged the splitter in the > socket before I started the car up. I checked and the wires were melted > again and were still very warm to the touch. This time, the fuse was not > blown. " > > Methinks that Guest and other items, like water, should be kept away from > electrical devices. you. I cam for advice, not smart ass comments. Michael Pardee gave advice. |
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