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Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Guest wrote:
> > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it > with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in > park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. > Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look > at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or > something specifically marked? > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will disappear. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Guest wrote:
> > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it > with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in > park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. > Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look > at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or > something specifically marked? > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will disappear. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Guest wrote:
> > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it > with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in > park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. > Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look > at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or > something specifically marked? > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will disappear. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Guest wrote:
> > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it > with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in > park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. > Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to look > at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto wire or > something specifically marked? > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will disappear. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > Guest wrote: >> >> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >> > > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw > /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are > fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will > disappear. Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common newsreaders? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > Guest wrote: >> >> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >> > > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw > /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are > fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will > disappear. Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common newsreaders? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > Guest wrote: >> >> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >> > > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw > /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are > fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will > disappear. Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common newsreaders? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > Guest wrote: >> >> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >> > > dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw > /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are > fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will > disappear. Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common newsreaders? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in > news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > >> Guest wrote: >>> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >>> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >>> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >>> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >>> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >>> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >>> >> dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw >> /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are >> fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will >> disappear. > > > > Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? > > Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common > newsreaders? > > i don't think it's him, i think it's his "sponsor". if he even knows or cares. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in > news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > >> Guest wrote: >>> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >>> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >>> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >>> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >>> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >>> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >>> >> dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw >> /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are >> fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will >> disappear. > > > > Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? > > Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common > newsreaders? > > i don't think it's him, i think it's his "sponsor". if he even knows or cares. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in > news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > >> Guest wrote: >>> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >>> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >>> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >>> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >>> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >>> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >>> >> dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw >> /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are >> fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will >> disappear. > > > > Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? > > Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common > newsreaders? > > i don't think it's him, i think it's his "sponsor". if he even knows or cares. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in > news:yNudna2MTMvlxjXYnZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > >> Guest wrote: >>> Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I >>> replaced it with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn >>> and left the car in park. What you write makes sense since the Honda >>> wire is a lot thicker. Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, >>> is there another place to look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the >>> job or does it have to be auto wire or something specifically marked? >>> >> dude, it's not the freakin' wire, it's the freakin' unit. led's draw >> /very/ little current. skinny wire works just fine /if/ the led's are >> fine. go fix the unit and suddenly all your wiring problems will >> disappear. > > > > Why does this "Guest" guy preface his posts with the "-- " signature code? > > Doesn't he realize what this does when you reply using many common > newsreaders? > > i don't think it's him, i think it's his "sponsor". if he even knows or cares. |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
"Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:FxYph.26689$QU1.12472@newssvr22.news.prodigy. net... > > > -- > This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com > > http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 > "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message > news:FLednW8Wl__9SDrYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@sedona.net.. . >> "Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message >> news:eBPph.19204$sR.2854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com >>> >>> http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 >>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>> news:g4CdnX8AxJ1HCDrYnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >>>> Guest wrote: >>>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire >>>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >>>> >>>> how do you know it would melt? >>> >>> Well it melted twice now. >>> >>> how much current is it conducting? >>> >>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >>> >> >> Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting >> power from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or >> larger. At 10A use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage >> wire. The fuse exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you >> already have a problem. >> >> The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating >> wire is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the >> light is bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing. >> >> Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily. >> Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No >> fun. >> >> Mike >> > > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it > with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in > park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. > Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to > look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto > wire or something specifically marked? > Back up one step. The fuse has to be changed back to what it was originally because there was already wiring on the circuit. The fuse has to protect that wire also. For example, if the original fuse was a 10A the existing wiring would be sized for 10 amps... but with the overrated fuse in there it could be subjected to twice that much current in the event of a fault. Twice the current also means twice the voltage drop across the wire, so the wire will get four times as hot before the fuse blows. Don't shrug this off; notice the recent thread about the 2002 Civic destroyed by an electrical fire. Ordinary stranded, PVC jacketed wire is fine. Radio Shack probably carries it as will many car parts stores. The guage should be at least as heavy as the original fuse size dictates (from my earlier post). As the others say, there is still something wrong with the LED if it blows the original size fuse. They don't draw much current. Mike |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
"Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:FxYph.26689$QU1.12472@newssvr22.news.prodigy. net... > > > -- > This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com > > http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 > "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message > news:FLednW8Wl__9SDrYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@sedona.net.. . >> "Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message >> news:eBPph.19204$sR.2854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com >>> >>> http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 >>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>> news:g4CdnX8AxJ1HCDrYnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >>>> Guest wrote: >>>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire >>>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >>>> >>>> how do you know it would melt? >>> >>> Well it melted twice now. >>> >>> how much current is it conducting? >>> >>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >>> >> >> Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting >> power from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or >> larger. At 10A use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage >> wire. The fuse exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you >> already have a problem. >> >> The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating >> wire is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the >> light is bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing. >> >> Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily. >> Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No >> fun. >> >> Mike >> > > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it > with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in > park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. > Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to > look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto > wire or something specifically marked? > Back up one step. The fuse has to be changed back to what it was originally because there was already wiring on the circuit. The fuse has to protect that wire also. For example, if the original fuse was a 10A the existing wiring would be sized for 10 amps... but with the overrated fuse in there it could be subjected to twice that much current in the event of a fault. Twice the current also means twice the voltage drop across the wire, so the wire will get four times as hot before the fuse blows. Don't shrug this off; notice the recent thread about the 2002 Civic destroyed by an electrical fire. Ordinary stranded, PVC jacketed wire is fine. Radio Shack probably carries it as will many car parts stores. The guage should be at least as heavy as the original fuse size dictates (from my earlier post). As the others say, there is still something wrong with the LED if it blows the original size fuse. They don't draw much current. Mike |
Re: Spoiler LED Wire type
"Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:FxYph.26689$QU1.12472@newssvr22.news.prodigy. net... > > > -- > This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com > > http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 > "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message > news:FLednW8Wl__9SDrYnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@sedona.net.. . >> "Guest" <llcoolj@comcast.com> wrote in message >> news:eBPph.19204$sR.2854@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This post is Sponsored by: www.overheadsoft.com >>> >>> http://www.linkreferral.com/cgi-bin/...oldrefid=20013 >>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>> news:g4CdnX8AxJ1HCDrYnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >>>> Guest wrote: >>>>> What type of wire do you suggest using for wiring up the LED light on >>>>> the spoiler? I need to solder a new wire on since the "OEM" LED wire >>>>> was so thin that it would melt. Can I use copper speaker wire? >>>> >>>> how do you know it would melt? >>> >>> Well it melted twice now. >>> >>> how much current is it conducting? >>> >>> That, I am not sure about but it could be 12v. >>> >> >> Let's start with the wire size. Locate the fuse the circuit is getting >> power from. If the fuse is 5A or less, you can use 22 guage wire or >> larger. At 10A use 18 guage wire or larger; for a 20A fuse use 16 guage >> wire. The fuse exists to protect the wire, and if the wire is melting you >> already have a problem. >> >> The LED bar itself should be drawing well under 5 amps. The overheating >> wire is a good indication the wiring between the melted wire and the >> light is bad; shorted or backward, that sort of thing. >> >> Both situations need to be corrected before you drive safely and happily. >> Definitely get the wire size corrected, or you could have a car fire. No >> fun. >> >> Mike >> > > Thanks, that makes thing a lot clearer. When the fuse blew, I replaced it > with a yellow 20A fuse. This also controlled the horn and left the car in > park. What you write makes sense since the Honda wire is a lot thicker. > Now, I went to Radio Shack looking for wire, is there another place to > look at? Will any wire, 16 gauge do the job or does it have to be auto > wire or something specifically marked? > Back up one step. The fuse has to be changed back to what it was originally because there was already wiring on the circuit. The fuse has to protect that wire also. For example, if the original fuse was a 10A the existing wiring would be sized for 10 amps... but with the overrated fuse in there it could be subjected to twice that much current in the event of a fault. Twice the current also means twice the voltage drop across the wire, so the wire will get four times as hot before the fuse blows. Don't shrug this off; notice the recent thread about the 2002 Civic destroyed by an electrical fire. Ordinary stranded, PVC jacketed wire is fine. Radio Shack probably carries it as will many car parts stores. The guage should be at least as heavy as the original fuse size dictates (from my earlier post). As the others say, there is still something wrong with the LED if it blows the original size fuse. They don't draw much current. Mike |
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