Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
09-02-2004, 09:51 PM
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Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am undecided
between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still up
in the air..
Any comments ?
Thanks.
between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still up
in the air..
Any comments ?
Thanks.
09-03-2004, 01:36 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
I bought four PZero Nero M+S (stock 205/50R16) from Tirerack for my 99
Prelude 2,500 miles ago. All the writeups were very good (but only a few
had more than a couple thousand miles on the road) and so far no major
complaints. But three things to watch out for:
1. The advertised wet stopping traction rating is AA (the best), but the
sidewalls were marked A. Pirelli USA (Georgia) confirmed that the earlier
PZero Nero M&S were made in the US, but are now made in Germany (including
mine date coded early 2004). They do not know if the tire is still
qualified to receive the UTQG of AA since they do not know if it is simply a
mold plate issue, or whether the factory actually changed the tire compound.
Supposedly they will retest this line.
2. There are no "match mounting" dots on these Pirelli tires and the balance
is going to take some more effort. The OEM Bridgestones (I know, some
people hated the RE92, but I had good luck) were mounted with the red
uniformity marks lined up with the blue dot on all four wheels. This gave
essentially perfect balance with minimal added weights. I've been swapping
these Pirelli tires fore and aft, had two rebalanced, and now will have at
least one broken down and rotated 180 on the wheel.
3. Some people complain about tramlining on grooved pavement. So far,
these tires have not been an issue driving on some "in work" resurfaced
roads that had the top asphalt layer removed with the resulting grooving.
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
undecided
> between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>
> I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
up
> in the air..
>
> Any comments ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
Prelude 2,500 miles ago. All the writeups were very good (but only a few
had more than a couple thousand miles on the road) and so far no major
complaints. But three things to watch out for:
1. The advertised wet stopping traction rating is AA (the best), but the
sidewalls were marked A. Pirelli USA (Georgia) confirmed that the earlier
PZero Nero M&S were made in the US, but are now made in Germany (including
mine date coded early 2004). They do not know if the tire is still
qualified to receive the UTQG of AA since they do not know if it is simply a
mold plate issue, or whether the factory actually changed the tire compound.
Supposedly they will retest this line.
2. There are no "match mounting" dots on these Pirelli tires and the balance
is going to take some more effort. The OEM Bridgestones (I know, some
people hated the RE92, but I had good luck) were mounted with the red
uniformity marks lined up with the blue dot on all four wheels. This gave
essentially perfect balance with minimal added weights. I've been swapping
these Pirelli tires fore and aft, had two rebalanced, and now will have at
least one broken down and rotated 180 on the wheel.
3. Some people complain about tramlining on grooved pavement. So far,
these tires have not been an issue driving on some "in work" resurfaced
roads that had the top asphalt layer removed with the resulting grooving.
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
undecided
> between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>
> I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
up
> in the air..
>
> Any comments ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
09-03-2004, 01:36 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
I bought four PZero Nero M+S (stock 205/50R16) from Tirerack for my 99
Prelude 2,500 miles ago. All the writeups were very good (but only a few
had more than a couple thousand miles on the road) and so far no major
complaints. But three things to watch out for:
1. The advertised wet stopping traction rating is AA (the best), but the
sidewalls were marked A. Pirelli USA (Georgia) confirmed that the earlier
PZero Nero M&S were made in the US, but are now made in Germany (including
mine date coded early 2004). They do not know if the tire is still
qualified to receive the UTQG of AA since they do not know if it is simply a
mold plate issue, or whether the factory actually changed the tire compound.
Supposedly they will retest this line.
2. There are no "match mounting" dots on these Pirelli tires and the balance
is going to take some more effort. The OEM Bridgestones (I know, some
people hated the RE92, but I had good luck) were mounted with the red
uniformity marks lined up with the blue dot on all four wheels. This gave
essentially perfect balance with minimal added weights. I've been swapping
these Pirelli tires fore and aft, had two rebalanced, and now will have at
least one broken down and rotated 180 on the wheel.
3. Some people complain about tramlining on grooved pavement. So far,
these tires have not been an issue driving on some "in work" resurfaced
roads that had the top asphalt layer removed with the resulting grooving.
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
undecided
> between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>
> I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
up
> in the air..
>
> Any comments ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
Prelude 2,500 miles ago. All the writeups were very good (but only a few
had more than a couple thousand miles on the road) and so far no major
complaints. But three things to watch out for:
1. The advertised wet stopping traction rating is AA (the best), but the
sidewalls were marked A. Pirelli USA (Georgia) confirmed that the earlier
PZero Nero M&S were made in the US, but are now made in Germany (including
mine date coded early 2004). They do not know if the tire is still
qualified to receive the UTQG of AA since they do not know if it is simply a
mold plate issue, or whether the factory actually changed the tire compound.
Supposedly they will retest this line.
2. There are no "match mounting" dots on these Pirelli tires and the balance
is going to take some more effort. The OEM Bridgestones (I know, some
people hated the RE92, but I had good luck) were mounted with the red
uniformity marks lined up with the blue dot on all four wheels. This gave
essentially perfect balance with minimal added weights. I've been swapping
these Pirelli tires fore and aft, had two rebalanced, and now will have at
least one broken down and rotated 180 on the wheel.
3. Some people complain about tramlining on grooved pavement. So far,
these tires have not been an issue driving on some "in work" resurfaced
roads that had the top asphalt layer removed with the resulting grooving.
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
undecided
> between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>
> I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
up
> in the air..
>
> Any comments ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
09-03-2004, 08:50 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
undecided
> between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>
> I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
up
> in the air..
>
> Any comments ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very good
handling all around to include in the wet.
09-03-2004, 08:50 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
undecided
> between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>
> I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
up
> in the air..
>
> Any comments ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very good
handling all around to include in the wet.
09-05-2004, 09:41 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
Sorry.. but I will never buy Bridgestone tires again. The RE92's came stock
on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of them...
"TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
>
> "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
> undecided
> > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
> >
> > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
> up
> > in the air..
> >
> > Any comments ?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very good
> handling all around to include in the wet.
>
>
on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of them...
"TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
>
> "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
> undecided
> > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
> >
> > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
> up
> > in the air..
> >
> > Any comments ?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very good
> handling all around to include in the wet.
>
>
09-05-2004, 09:41 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
Sorry.. but I will never buy Bridgestone tires again. The RE92's came stock
on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of them...
"TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
>
> "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
> undecided
> > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
> >
> > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
> up
> > in the air..
> >
> > Any comments ?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very good
> handling all around to include in the wet.
>
>
on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of them...
"TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
>
> "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
> undecided
> > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
> >
> > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is still
> up
> > in the air..
> >
> > Any comments ?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very good
> handling all around to include in the wet.
>
>
09-05-2004, 10:38 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:7nP_c.1347$dd5.370109@weber.videotron.net...
> Sorry.. but I will never buy Bridgestone tires again. The RE92's came
> stock
> on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of
> them...
What on Earth does that have to do with the rest of their line?
_All_ tire companies build tires to budgets.
The World Drivers Championship was just won on Bridgestone tires, FFS!
> "TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
>>
>> "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>> news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
>> > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
>> undecided
>> > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>> >
>> > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is
>> > still
>> up
>> > in the air..
>> >
>> > Any comments ?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very
>> good
>> handling all around to include in the wet.
>>
>>
>
>
09-05-2004, 10:38 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:7nP_c.1347$dd5.370109@weber.videotron.net...
> Sorry.. but I will never buy Bridgestone tires again. The RE92's came
> stock
> on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of
> them...
What on Earth does that have to do with the rest of their line?
_All_ tire companies build tires to budgets.
The World Drivers Championship was just won on Bridgestone tires, FFS!
> "TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
>>
>> "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>> news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
>> > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
>> undecided
>> > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
>> >
>> > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is
>> > still
>> up
>> > in the air..
>> >
>> > Any comments ?
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very
>> good
>> handling all around to include in the wet.
>>
>>
>
>
09-08-2004, 07:32 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:7nP_c.1347$dd5.370109@weber.videotron.net...
> Sorry.. but I will never buy Bridgestone tires again. The RE92's came
stock
> on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of
them...
>
Agree! The OEM RE92s were terrible. My research indicated the RE 750 was
otherwise. And, my experience supports it. A good source is Tire Rack.
>
>
> "TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
> >
> > "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> > news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> > > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
> > undecided
> > > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
> > >
> > > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is
still
> > up
> > > in the air..
> > >
> > > Any comments ?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very
good
> > handling all around to include in the wet.
> >
> >
>
>
09-08-2004, 07:32 PM
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Re: Tires for 98 Prelude.. Toyo or Pirelli
"Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:7nP_c.1347$dd5.370109@weber.videotron.net...
> Sorry.. but I will never buy Bridgestone tires again. The RE92's came
stock
> on this car and they were very bad.. Nearly killed myself cause of
them...
>
Agree! The OEM RE92s were terrible. My research indicated the RE 750 was
otherwise. And, my experience supports it. A good source is Tire Rack.
>
>
> "TWW" <twaugh5@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Fm8_c.53102$nk.42908@okepread05...
> >
> > "Mark Huntington" <Mark.Huntington@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> > news:17QZc.29730$681.520003@weber.videotron.net...
> > > I'm in the market for buying a new set of tires for my car and am
> > undecided
> > > between the Toyo Proxes 4 or the Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S.
> > >
> > > I've read the reviews and everything but decided on which brand is
still
> > up
> > > in the air..
> > >
> > > Any comments ?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I have been very pleased with Bridgestone RE 750 a W rated tire. Very
good
> > handling all around to include in the wet.
> >
> >
>
>
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