Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 00:08:33 -0400, Paul S wrote:

> I bought a Honda Canada oil filter the other day and had an interesting
> experience. When I told the parts guy at the local dealership that I
> wanted two filters, one for my '04 accord and another for my '92, I was
> informed,


Toyota did this years ago! Two sizes fit all. One size for the smaller
engines, and one for the bigger. No problem!

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

>>
>> I have a 2004 and 2001 6 cyl Accords, and the filters are different
>> diameters.
>>
>I think the "one size" is just for the 4 cylinders. My daughter's '93 Accord
>was also affected by the part change. I was dubious but the Honda counterman
>said the new, smaller filter was as good as the older style. Honda has been
>pretty smart with most of their materials, so I'm going with them on this.
>FWIW, the OEM filter for our Toyota Prius cars is about the same size.
>
>Mike
>

OK....well, one vote in favor of the new protocol. I'll keep an open
mind and keep on researching. One thing is for sure -- those Amsoil
filters are not going to be a viable long term option...they are just
way too expensive at 15 bucks each. - Paul

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

>>
>> I have a 2004 and 2001 6 cyl Accords, and the filters are different
>> diameters.
>>
>I think the "one size" is just for the 4 cylinders. My daughter's '93 Accord
>was also affected by the part change. I was dubious but the Honda counterman
>said the new, smaller filter was as good as the older style. Honda has been
>pretty smart with most of their materials, so I'm going with them on this.
>FWIW, the OEM filter for our Toyota Prius cars is about the same size.
>
>Mike
>

OK....well, one vote in favor of the new protocol. I'll keep an open
mind and keep on researching. One thing is for sure -- those Amsoil
filters are not going to be a viable long term option...they are just
way too expensive at 15 bucks each. - Paul

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

>Toyota did this years ago! Two sizes fit all. One size for the smaller
>engines, and one for the bigger. No problem!

OK...TWO votes in favor now. I'm already feeling less and less ripped
off. - Paul

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

>Toyota did this years ago! Two sizes fit all. One size for the smaller
>engines, and one for the bigger. No problem!

OK...TWO votes in favor now. I'm already feeling less and less ripped
off. - Paul

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

My dealer sells only ONE SIZE filter for Hondas. They told me some dealers
have a huge stock of the older larger filters, but Honda only supplies one
size for them now.

G-Man


"Paul S" <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:om3n23l1jils0h2vj2egqd36lateg17t07@4ax.com...
>
>>Toyota did this years ago! Two sizes fit all. One size for the smaller
>>engines, and one for the bigger. No problem!
>
> OK...TWO votes in favor now. I'm already feeling less and less ripped
> off. - Paul
>

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

My dealer sells only ONE SIZE filter for Hondas. They told me some dealers
have a huge stock of the older larger filters, but Honda only supplies one
size for them now.

G-Man


"Paul S" <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:om3n23l1jils0h2vj2egqd36lateg17t07@4ax.com...
>
>>Toyota did this years ago! Two sizes fit all. One size for the smaller
>>engines, and one for the bigger. No problem!
>
> OK...TWO votes in favor now. I'm already feeling less and less ripped
> off. - Paul
>

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:132p6h6fva9n9bb@news.supernews.com:

> My dealer sells only ONE SIZE filter for Hondas. They told me some
> dealers have a huge stock of the older larger filters, but Honda only
> supplies one size for them now.



15400-PLM-A02 does 95% of Honda engines.

There's another size that fits a few TLs and the NSX.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:132p6h6fva9n9bb@news.supernews.com:

> My dealer sells only ONE SIZE filter for Hondas. They told me some
> dealers have a huge stock of the older larger filters, but Honda only
> supplies one size for them now.



15400-PLM-A02 does 95% of Honda engines.

There's another size that fits a few TLs and the NSX.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:35:35 -0400, "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>My dealer sells only ONE SIZE filter for Hondas. They told me some dealers
>have a huge stock of the older larger filters, but Honda only supplies one
>size for them now.
>
>G-Man

At least that tells me it's not just a Canadian thing...the one size
is now apparently standard throughout N. America for many Hondas.
I now hear that some folks actually prefer to use an over-size filter
on their vehicles (with the proper fitting, of course). Wonder if that
would make any difference long term in terms of significantly cleaner
oil. Six an one half dozen ther other as I'm not going to try it.....
enough misadventures lately to last me the whole summer. Paul.

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....Have I Ruined My Engine?
 

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:35:35 -0400, "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>My dealer sells only ONE SIZE filter for Hondas. They told me some dealers
>have a huge stock of the older larger filters, but Honda only supplies one
>size for them now.
>
>G-Man

At least that tells me it's not just a Canadian thing...the one size
is now apparently standard throughout N. America for many Hondas.
I now hear that some folks actually prefer to use an over-size filter
on their vehicles (with the proper fitting, of course). Wonder if that
would make any difference long term in terms of significantly cleaner
oil. Six an one half dozen ther other as I'm not going to try it.....
enough misadventures lately to last me the whole summer. Paul.

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....An Update
 

Greetings To All:

This is a brief update on the "total loss" of oil I experienced
recently with my '04 accord. Basically, I've now driven the car about
300 miles since the mishap (running the engine for 15 seconds with no
oil at all after accidentally double-gasketing the filter), and it
seems to be doing fairly well. I'm getting 33 miles to the gallon
which is not bad for a lot of in town driving, and the acceleration
and shifting are good. What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off. You can
only hear it with the hood up, standing next to the engine. This noise
is a slight metallic clanging like low pitched wind chimes, and it's
definitely coming from under the valve cover. I haven't looked at the
cam shaft lobes yet, but I may want to have a mechanic inspect them
the next time I'm ready for a valve adjustment. I did have the
serpentine accessory belt changed out as per suggestions received on
this board, just in case of oil contamination. Thanks again for all of
the helpful information and support. - Paul

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....An Update
 

Greetings To All:

This is a brief update on the "total loss" of oil I experienced
recently with my '04 accord. Basically, I've now driven the car about
300 miles since the mishap (running the engine for 15 seconds with no
oil at all after accidentally double-gasketing the filter), and it
seems to be doing fairly well. I'm getting 33 miles to the gallon
which is not bad for a lot of in town driving, and the acceleration
and shifting are good. What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off. You can
only hear it with the hood up, standing next to the engine. This noise
is a slight metallic clanging like low pitched wind chimes, and it's
definitely coming from under the valve cover. I haven't looked at the
cam shaft lobes yet, but I may want to have a mechanic inspect them
the next time I'm ready for a valve adjustment. I did have the
serpentine accessory belt changed out as per suggestions received on
this board, just in case of oil contamination. Thanks again for all of
the helpful information and support. - Paul

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....An Update
 

In article <570q23pv9i93vklt5crlev5i1s11qlb2i2@4ax.com>,
Paul S <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
> noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
> goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off.

It is very likely that you will have that noise for the next 300,000
miles.

Re: TOTAL Oil Loss....An Update
 

In article <570q23pv9i93vklt5crlev5i1s11qlb2i2@4ax.com>,
Paul S <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
> noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
> goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off.

It is very likely that you will have that noise for the next 300,000
miles.