Michael Pardee

"Paul S" <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Greetings To All:
>
> This is a brief update on the "total loss" of oil I experienced
> recently with my '04 accord. Basically, I've now driven the car about
> 300 miles since the mishap (running the engine for 15 seconds with no
> oil at all after accidentally double-gasketing the filter), and it
> seems to be doing fairly well. I'm getting 33 miles to the gallon
> which is not bad for a lot of in town driving, and the acceleration
> and shifting are good. What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
> noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
> goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off. You can
> only hear it with the hood up, standing next to the engine. This noise
> is a slight metallic clanging like low pitched wind chimes, and it's
> definitely coming from under the valve cover. I haven't looked at the
> cam shaft lobes yet, but I may want to have a mechanic inspect them
> the next time I'm ready for a valve adjustment. I did have the
> serpentine accessory belt changed out as per suggestions received on
> this board, just in case of oil contamination. Thanks again for all of
> the helpful information and support. - Paul
>
>
>
That sound isn't what I'd associate with oil loss. I think fortune has
favored you this time :-)

Mike

Michael Pardee

"Paul S" <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Greetings To All:
>
> This is a brief update on the "total loss" of oil I experienced
> recently with my '04 accord. Basically, I've now driven the car about
> 300 miles since the mishap (running the engine for 15 seconds with no
> oil at all after accidentally double-gasketing the filter), and it
> seems to be doing fairly well. I'm getting 33 miles to the gallon
> which is not bad for a lot of in town driving, and the acceleration
> and shifting are good. What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
> noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
> goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off. You can
> only hear it with the hood up, standing next to the engine. This noise
> is a slight metallic clanging like low pitched wind chimes, and it's
> definitely coming from under the valve cover. I haven't looked at the
> cam shaft lobes yet, but I may want to have a mechanic inspect them
> the next time I'm ready for a valve adjustment. I did have the
> serpentine accessory belt changed out as per suggestions received on
> this board, just in case of oil contamination. Thanks again for all of
> the helpful information and support. - Paul
>
>
>
That sound isn't what I'd associate with oil loss. I think fortune has
favored you this time :-)

Mike

Paul S

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:30:57 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

Thanks, Mike...when it comes to cars, I need all the help I can get. -
Paul.

>>
>>
>That sound isn't what I'd associate with oil loss. I think fortune has
>favored you this time :-)
>
>Mike
>
>

Paul S

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:30:57 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

Thanks, Mike...when it comes to cars, I need all the help I can get. -
Paul.

>>
>>
>That sound isn't what I'd associate with oil loss. I think fortune has
>favored you this time :-)
>
>Mike
>
>

Gordon McGrew

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:15:28 -0400, Paul S <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
>noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
>goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off. You can
>only hear it with the hood up, standing next to the engine. This noise
>is a slight metallic clanging like low pitched wind chimes, and it's
>definitely coming from under the valve cover.

This is the indirect result of running the car out of oil. Because
you ran it out of oil you are now opening the hood and putting your
ear next to the engine and anxiously listening for any sign of
trouble. I think you are probably OK, but do keep an eye on the oil
level. Good luck.

Gordon McGrew

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:15:28 -0400, Paul S <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

> What's troublesome is a mild but noticeable
>noise, similar to Freon gurgling in one of those old A/C units that
>goes in a window, for a few seconds when I turn the car off. You can
>only hear it with the hood up, standing next to the engine. This noise
>is a slight metallic clanging like low pitched wind chimes, and it's
>definitely coming from under the valve cover.

This is the indirect result of running the car out of oil. Because
you ran it out of oil you are now opening the hood and putting your
ear next to the engine and anxiously listening for any sign of
trouble. I think you are probably OK, but do keep an eye on the oil
level. Good luck.

Michael Pardee

"Paul S" <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks, Mike...when it comes to cars, I need all the help I can get. -
> Paul.
>

It's almost always better to be lucky than to be good ;-)

Michael Pardee

"Paul S" <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks, Mike...when it comes to cars, I need all the help I can get. -
> Paul.
>

It's almost always better to be lucky than to be good ;-)

Paul S

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:36:53 -0500, Gordon McGrew
<RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

>This is the indirect result of running the car out of oil. Because
>you ran it out of oil you are now opening the hood and putting your
>ear next to the engine and anxiously listening for any sign of
>trouble. I think you are probably OK, but do keep an eye on the oil
>level. Good luck.

Thanks....you're probably right. - Paul

Paul S

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:36:53 -0500, Gordon McGrew
<RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:

>This is the indirect result of running the car out of oil. Because
>you ran it out of oil you are now opening the hood and putting your
>ear next to the engine and anxiously listening for any sign of
>trouble. I think you are probably OK, but do keep an eye on the oil
>level. Good luck.

Thanks....you're probably right. - Paul

Paul S

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:19:18 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>It's almost always better to be lucky than to be good ;-)

A true statement, Mike. And to think I was going to try bleeding my
own brakes! Not any more. Maybe I could do it, maybe not, but I'm not
going to find out...not with it being such a major safety issue. I am
planning to flush out my radiator today, no problem. Along with
changing a PCV valve and an air filter. But the brakes? No way.

- Paul

Paul S

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:19:18 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>It's almost always better to be lucky than to be good ;-)

A true statement, Mike. And to think I was going to try bleeding my
own brakes! Not any more. Maybe I could do it, maybe not, but I'm not
going to find out...not with it being such a major safety issue. I am
planning to flush out my radiator today, no problem. Along with
changing a PCV valve and an air filter. But the brakes? No way.

- Paul

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:15:28 -0400, Paul S wrote:

> (running the engine for 15 seconds with no oil at all
> after accidentally double-gasketing the filter


I really don't believe 15 seconds will have done any damage. I can't blame
you for worrying, but consider this: after draining and filling the engine
and filter, it takes a LOT longer than 15 seconds for pressure to build
sufficiently to circulate, anyway! And, area that may have been damaged by
non-circulating oil probably held some oil, anyway. I wouldn't fret about
it!

I ran (actually, my stepfather, driving my car) a Corolla 1200 with about
1 qt of oil for a couple weeks! The rings needed replacing at 160,000
miles.

Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:15:28 -0400, Paul S wrote:

> (running the engine for 15 seconds with no oil at all
> after accidentally double-gasketing the filter


I really don't believe 15 seconds will have done any damage. I can't blame
you for worrying, but consider this: after draining and filling the engine
and filter, it takes a LOT longer than 15 seconds for pressure to build
sufficiently to circulate, anyway! And, area that may have been damaged by
non-circulating oil probably held some oil, anyway. I wouldn't fret about
it!

I ran (actually, my stepfather, driving my car) a Corolla 1200 with about
1 qt of oil for a couple weeks! The rings needed replacing at 160,000
miles.

Paul S

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:46:41 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:15:28 -0400, Paul S wrote:
>
>> (running the engine for 15 seconds with no oil at all
>> after accidentally double-gasketing the filter
>
>
>I really don't believe 15 seconds will have done any damage. I can't blame
>you for worrying, but consider this: after draining and filling the engine
>and filter, it takes a LOT longer than 15 seconds for pressure to build
>sufficiently to circulate, anyway! And, area that may have been damaged by
>non-circulating oil probably held some oil, anyway. I wouldn't fret about
>it!
>
>I ran (actually, my stepfather, driving my car) a Corolla 1200 with about
>1 qt of oil for a couple weeks! The rings needed replacing at 160,000
>miles.

Hi - Thank you for the encouraging post. I really have gotten a lot of
reassurance on this page that I didn't screw my car up, for which I'm
quite grateful. I also think that I had a bit of luck here, as was
pointed out by another poster. I guess the real luck is that it was
just a minor thing and not (a) a major expense, or worse (b) a serious
safety issue. So I'm happy. - Paul