use of higher octane gasoline
I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I
have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. Other than paying a higher price per gallon is there really any difference in performance or mileage using higher octane fuel if the compression ratio remains unchanged? John |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
In article <LfWdncbEh56QCPGiXTWJjg@comcast.com>,
"John Shamblin" <jsham5@comcast.net> wrote: > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. He's wrong. Have him show us his degree in chemistry, and his certifications from the auto engineering or petroleum industries. What? He doesn't have any? Imagine that. He's wrong. In your case, there's no difference other than (a) you'll spend more money, and (b) you'll actually get slightly *in*ferior gas mileage and power due to the higher octane fuel's requirements for burning. Do you know what octane is? Better yet, let's ask him. Does HE know what octane is? Octane is not a "power booster". |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
In article <LfWdncbEh56QCPGiXTWJjg@comcast.com>,
"John Shamblin" <jsham5@comcast.net> wrote: > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. He's wrong. Have him show us his degree in chemistry, and his certifications from the auto engineering or petroleum industries. What? He doesn't have any? Imagine that. He's wrong. In your case, there's no difference other than (a) you'll spend more money, and (b) you'll actually get slightly *in*ferior gas mileage and power due to the higher octane fuel's requirements for burning. Do you know what octane is? Better yet, let's ask him. Does HE know what octane is? Octane is not a "power booster". |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
In article <LfWdncbEh56QCPGiXTWJjg@comcast.com>,
"John Shamblin" <jsham5@comcast.net> wrote: > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. He's wrong. Have him show us his degree in chemistry, and his certifications from the auto engineering or petroleum industries. What? He doesn't have any? Imagine that. He's wrong. In your case, there's no difference other than (a) you'll spend more money, and (b) you'll actually get slightly *in*ferior gas mileage and power due to the higher octane fuel's requirements for burning. Do you know what octane is? Better yet, let's ask him. Does HE know what octane is? Octane is not a "power booster". |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
Hi,
Would you believe your friend's advice or the owner's manual? Have money to burn? You said your car is running fine. Tony John Shamblin wrote: > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. > Other than paying a higher price per gallon is there really any difference > in performance or mileage using higher octane fuel if the compression ratio > remains unchanged? > John > > |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
Hi,
Would you believe your friend's advice or the owner's manual? Have money to burn? You said your car is running fine. Tony John Shamblin wrote: > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. > Other than paying a higher price per gallon is there really any difference > in performance or mileage using higher octane fuel if the compression ratio > remains unchanged? > John > > |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
Hi,
Would you believe your friend's advice or the owner's manual? Have money to burn? You said your car is running fine. Tony John Shamblin wrote: > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. > Other than paying a higher price per gallon is there really any difference > in performance or mileage using higher octane fuel if the compression ratio > remains unchanged? > John > > |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
"John Shamblin" <jsham5@comcast.net> wrote in message news:LfWdncbEh56QCPGiXTWJjg@comcast.com... > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. Apparently if you use the 93 oct gas, you get 10 extra hp from the new V6 240hp Honda engine, according to some Honda engineer. Not sure about better mileage though. However, I haven't heard anything of this sort about the older 200hp V6 engine. Personally, I'd stick with the 87 octane. Cheers, Pete |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
"John Shamblin" <jsham5@comcast.net> wrote in message news:LfWdncbEh56QCPGiXTWJjg@comcast.com... > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. Apparently if you use the 93 oct gas, you get 10 extra hp from the new V6 240hp Honda engine, according to some Honda engineer. Not sure about better mileage though. However, I haven't heard anything of this sort about the older 200hp V6 engine. Personally, I'd stick with the 87 octane. Cheers, Pete |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
"John Shamblin" <jsham5@comcast.net> wrote in message news:LfWdncbEh56QCPGiXTWJjg@comcast.com... > I have a 1999 Honda Accord LX six cylinder with about 31,000 miles on it. I > have always used unleaded gasoline 87 octane (manual says use 86 or higher) > and had no problems. However a friend of mine said I would get better > performance and mileage if I used premium grade higher octane gasoline. Apparently if you use the 93 oct gas, you get 10 extra hp from the new V6 240hp Honda engine, according to some Honda engineer. Not sure about better mileage though. However, I haven't heard anything of this sort about the older 200hp V6 engine. Personally, I'd stick with the 87 octane. Cheers, Pete |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
In article <bki6v1$qdr$1@news.onet.pl>,
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote: > Apparently if you use the 93 oct gas, you get 10 extra hp from the new V6 > 240hp Honda engine, according to some Honda engineer. Ah, the net. Great source for random crap. Other than this anonymous Honda engineer that no one has ever actually seen or talked to, is there any other source for this? No, I didn't think so. And even if this were true, it would be true IF and ONLY IF the engine control computer were designed specifically for this situation. This guy's 99 Accord most definitely isn't designed for this. |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
In article <bki6v1$qdr$1@news.onet.pl>,
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote: > Apparently if you use the 93 oct gas, you get 10 extra hp from the new V6 > 240hp Honda engine, according to some Honda engineer. Ah, the net. Great source for random crap. Other than this anonymous Honda engineer that no one has ever actually seen or talked to, is there any other source for this? No, I didn't think so. And even if this were true, it would be true IF and ONLY IF the engine control computer were designed specifically for this situation. This guy's 99 Accord most definitely isn't designed for this. |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
In article <bki6v1$qdr$1@news.onet.pl>,
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote: > Apparently if you use the 93 oct gas, you get 10 extra hp from the new V6 > 240hp Honda engine, according to some Honda engineer. Ah, the net. Great source for random crap. Other than this anonymous Honda engineer that no one has ever actually seen or talked to, is there any other source for this? No, I didn't think so. And even if this were true, it would be true IF and ONLY IF the engine control computer were designed specifically for this situation. This guy's 99 Accord most definitely isn't designed for this. |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:Eg1bb.89452$Yw.65623@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com. .. > In article <bki6v1$qdr$1@news.onet.pl>, > Other than this anonymous Honda engineer that no one has ever actually > seen or talked to, is there any other source for this? No, I didn't > think so. Yup, it's pretty much a hearsay. I wouldn't bet my life on it, that's for sure. > > And even if this were true, it would be true IF and ONLY IF the engine > control computer were designed specifically for this situation. It may be smart enough to adjust timing - many ECUs can do it these days. > > This guy's 99 Accord most definitely isn't designed for this. Didn't I say it only applied to the new V6 (2003 and up)? ;-) Cheers, Pete |
Re: use of higher octane gasoline
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:Eg1bb.89452$Yw.65623@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com. .. > In article <bki6v1$qdr$1@news.onet.pl>, > Other than this anonymous Honda engineer that no one has ever actually > seen or talked to, is there any other source for this? No, I didn't > think so. Yup, it's pretty much a hearsay. I wouldn't bet my life on it, that's for sure. > > And even if this were true, it would be true IF and ONLY IF the engine > control computer were designed specifically for this situation. It may be smart enough to adjust timing - many ECUs can do it these days. > > This guy's 99 Accord most definitely isn't designed for this. Didn't I say it only applied to the new V6 (2003 and up)? ;-) Cheers, Pete |
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