Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4652F84B.AA8CC385@hotmail.com...
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> is there a "conspiracy theory" connection?
>
> In the USA when *isn't* there a conspiracy theory to match ?
>
> Graham
>
>

Now we come full circle - the OP is naked spam to get us to visit the
*really* wacked site this spam is advertising. The same spam appears in
nearly every auto forum, in different cross-posted blocks.

Mike

"We never walked on the moon, Elvis ain't dead, you ain't goin' crazy, it's
all in your head."

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Eeyore wrote:
>
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
>>When one looks at the weight of today's cars, one common fact comes out;
>>Weight gain is due mostly to safety considerations.
>
>
> This is especially a problem in the USA where it seem the public thinks heavy
> vehicles are safer.
>
> Graham
>


If push comes to shove, the heavier vehicle will suffer less damage than
the lighter should the two tango.

Quite frankly, I feel a whole lot safer in my 1955 Studebaker President
with seat belts than I do in my 1983 Civic.

JT

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Eeyore wrote:
>
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
>>When one looks at the weight of today's cars, one common fact comes out;
>>Weight gain is due mostly to safety considerations.
>
>
> This is especially a problem in the USA where it seem the public thinks heavy
> vehicles are safer.
>
> Graham
>


If push comes to shove, the heavier vehicle will suffer less damage than
the lighter should the two tango.

Quite frankly, I feel a whole lot safer in my 1955 Studebaker President
with seat belts than I do in my 1983 Civic.

JT

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Scott in Florida wrote:

> On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:58:58 GMT, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>
>>>When one looks at the weight of today's cars, one common fact comes out;
>>>Weight gain is due mostly to safety considerations.
>>
>>This is especially a problem in the USA where it seem the public thinks heavy
>>vehicles are safer.
>>
>>Graham
>
>
> Not everyone in the USA believes heavier is safer.
>
> No one is safe when you are hit by a big scary truck.
>

Heh heh... I tell friends with modern plastic that the only thing soft
on my 1964 Studebaker T-Cab are the tires and that I take advantage of
other's crush zones...


> The best answer is to learn to drive and drive defensively.
>

Absolutely! That's why I have no qualms driving an older Civic.

JT

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Scott in Florida wrote:

> On Tue, 22 May 2007 21:58:58 GMT, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>>
>>>When one looks at the weight of today's cars, one common fact comes out;
>>>Weight gain is due mostly to safety considerations.
>>
>>This is especially a problem in the USA where it seem the public thinks heavy
>>vehicles are safer.
>>
>>Graham
>
>
> Not everyone in the USA believes heavier is safer.
>
> No one is safe when you are hit by a big scary truck.
>

Heh heh... I tell friends with modern plastic that the only thing soft
on my 1964 Studebaker T-Cab are the tires and that I take advantage of
other's crush zones...


> The best answer is to learn to drive and drive defensively.
>

Absolutely! That's why I have no qualms driving an older Civic.

JT

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Eeyore wrote:

>
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
>>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>need another example? firestone vs. frod on the exploder rollover
>>>>fiasco. frod won that one, miraculously.
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought it was Ford's idea to run the tyres with an absurdly low presure? How
>>>can Firestone be liable for a design defect by the car maker ?
>>
>>
>>It was and it just made the problem worse by hastening the failure of
>>tires while not fixing the real culprit, vehicle design.
>>
>>Better ideas from Ford??? Not likely...
>
>
> I think the next model Explorer had a wider track which is what the design engineers
> said it needed all along but the bean counters wouldn't have it. Shadows of Pinto
> style thinking again.
>
> Grtaham
>


Not to mention the fire bomb characteristics of the current crop of cop
cars..

JT

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Eeyore wrote:

>
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>
>>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>need another example? firestone vs. frod on the exploder rollover
>>>>fiasco. frod won that one, miraculously.
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought it was Ford's idea to run the tyres with an absurdly low presure? How
>>>can Firestone be liable for a design defect by the car maker ?
>>
>>
>>It was and it just made the problem worse by hastening the failure of
>>tires while not fixing the real culprit, vehicle design.
>>
>>Better ideas from Ford??? Not likely...
>
>
> I think the next model Explorer had a wider track which is what the design engineers
> said it needed all along but the bean counters wouldn't have it. Shadows of Pinto
> style thinking again.
>
> Grtaham
>


Not to mention the fire bomb characteristics of the current crop of cop
cars..

JT

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

google the opel eco-speedster, its more realistic than the this VW.
>
> This is what I was afraid of. This is not much of a "car". This
> is a motorcyle with a closed fairing. The article mentions
> an executive driving it a long distance to its unveiling. My first
> question would be how is luggage got there.

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

google the opel eco-speedster, its more realistic than the this VW.
>
> This is what I was afraid of. This is not much of a "car". This
> is a motorcyle with a closed fairing. The article mentions
> an executive driving it a long distance to its unveiling. My first
> question would be how is luggage got there.

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

In article <Xns99388A404267Ftegger@207.14.116.130>, Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>
>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:4652F915.466E3AE1@hotmail.com:
>
>
>>
>> I've *never* seen a maintenance requirement for a manual transmission.
>>
>
>
>Fluid must be replaced at regular intervals. This will be specified in the
>maintenance table for your car.
>
>
toyo reccomend 60k miles on my supra. i did it when i bought
it, i'm sure the fluid had never been changed before that.
love the toy 5 speed and mine is slick and easy.

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

In article <Xns99388A404267Ftegger@207.14.116.130>, Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>
>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:4652F915.466E3AE1@hotmail.com:
>
>
>>
>> I've *never* seen a maintenance requirement for a manual transmission.
>>
>
>
>Fluid must be replaced at regular intervals. This will be specified in the
>maintenance table for your car.
>
>
toyo reccomend 60k miles on my supra. i did it when i bought
it, i'm sure the fluid had never been changed before that.
love the toy 5 speed and mine is slick and easy.

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:465369A0.577476E@hotmail.com:

>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
>> >
>> > I've *never* seen a maintenance requirement for a manual
>> > transmission.
>> >
>>
>> Fluid must be replaced at regular intervals. This will be specified
>> in the maintenance table for your car.
>
> The last one I recall making any oil change requirement was a high-end
> 1970 model.



Such a directive exists for all Toyotas and Hondas for the last several
decades.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:465369A0.577476E@hotmail.com:

>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
>> >
>> > I've *never* seen a maintenance requirement for a manual
>> > transmission.
>> >
>>
>> Fluid must be replaced at regular intervals. This will be specified
>> in the maintenance table for your car.
>
> The last one I recall making any oil change requirement was a high-end
> 1970 model.



Such a directive exists for all Toyotas and Hondas for the last several
decades.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

"jp2express" <jp2mail-tempforum@noSpamyahoo.com> wrote in
news:IhC4i.21608$YL5.5384@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et:

> Are automatic transmissions still more expensive to maintain (i.e.
> fluid changes, belt/band adjustments, filter replacements, etc.)?



Most autos do not use bands any more; they use clutch packs. Filter
replacements are not usually required if the fluid is changed regularly.


>
> I know of many older vehicles where the manual transmissions have not
> been serviced during the lifetime of the vehicle.



So do I. But I seriously doubt any of those boxes would last 300K miles.

It is to the credit of the manufacturers that trannies last as long as they
do with the neglect and abuse many people throw at them.



> Has this been
> changed for modern day manual transmissions?


No. Fluid changes are always desirable regardless of transmission make or
model. Lubricant quality deteriorates over time regardless.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: Volkswagon unveils car that gets 282 miles to the gallon.
 

"jp2express" <jp2mail-tempforum@noSpamyahoo.com> wrote in
news:IhC4i.21608$YL5.5384@newssvr29.news.prodigy.n et:

> Are automatic transmissions still more expensive to maintain (i.e.
> fluid changes, belt/band adjustments, filter replacements, etc.)?



Most autos do not use bands any more; they use clutch packs. Filter
replacements are not usually required if the fluid is changed regularly.


>
> I know of many older vehicles where the manual transmissions have not
> been serviced during the lifetime of the vehicle.



So do I. But I seriously doubt any of those boxes would last 300K miles.

It is to the credit of the manufacturers that trannies last as long as they
do with the neglect and abuse many people throw at them.



> Has this been
> changed for modern day manual transmissions?


No. Fluid changes are always desirable regardless of transmission make or
model. Lubricant quality deteriorates over time regardless.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/