Where is my oil disappearing to?
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "BE" <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
>>My 2001 Odyssey is consuming oil at what I think is an alarming rate. A
>>couple months ago the oil light came on - I immediately shut the vehicle
>>off
>>and ended up adding 3 quarts of oil. I checked it again the other day and
>>had to add half a quart.
>>
>>This engine only has 41K miles. It does not put out blue smoke; there are
>>no
>>oil spots in our garage. Don't tell me that this can possibly be normal
>>consumption??? Where could this oil be going?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Be
>>
>
> I hate to suggest this, but it could be a bad ring. A few years ago we were
> seeing several posts of low-mileage Hondas suddenly consuming quarts of oil
> a month. Most remained a mystery, but one sufferer under warranty persisted
> and the dealer tore down the engine to find a broken ring in one cylinder. I
> don't know if it showed up on a compression check, or if it was a
> compression ring or oil control ring. I don't think I've ever heard of
> broken oil control rings, though.
>
> I believe the catalytic converters prevent the exhaust from smoking even
> with significant oil burning.
>
> Mike
>
>
i second that. broken rings a good candidate.
> "BE" <n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:C070EA45.4B250%n3wsr3ad3r_|@|_sbcglobal.net.. .
>
>>My 2001 Odyssey is consuming oil at what I think is an alarming rate. A
>>couple months ago the oil light came on - I immediately shut the vehicle
>>off
>>and ended up adding 3 quarts of oil. I checked it again the other day and
>>had to add half a quart.
>>
>>This engine only has 41K miles. It does not put out blue smoke; there are
>>no
>>oil spots in our garage. Don't tell me that this can possibly be normal
>>consumption??? Where could this oil be going?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Be
>>
>
> I hate to suggest this, but it could be a bad ring. A few years ago we were
> seeing several posts of low-mileage Hondas suddenly consuming quarts of oil
> a month. Most remained a mystery, but one sufferer under warranty persisted
> and the dealer tore down the engine to find a broken ring in one cylinder. I
> don't know if it showed up on a compression check, or if it was a
> compression ring or oil control ring. I don't think I've ever heard of
> broken oil control rings, though.
>
> I believe the catalytic converters prevent the exhaust from smoking even
> with significant oil burning.
>
> Mike
>
>
i second that. broken rings a good candidate.
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
converter failure and a few others the quality stinks. It wasn't stated how
many miles for the oil consumption but it is going to take some diagnosis to
determine what is causing it. A little more than my crystal ball can
determine......
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
news:8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
converter failure and a few others the quality stinks. It wasn't stated how
many miles for the oil consumption but it is going to take some diagnosis to
determine what is causing it. A little more than my crystal ball can
determine......
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
news:8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
#33
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
converter failure and a few others the quality stinks. It wasn't stated how
many miles for the oil consumption but it is going to take some diagnosis to
determine what is causing it. A little more than my crystal ball can
determine......
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
news:8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
converter failure and a few others the quality stinks. It wasn't stated how
many miles for the oil consumption but it is going to take some diagnosis to
determine what is causing it. A little more than my crystal ball can
determine......
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
news:8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
#34
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
converter failure and a few others the quality stinks. It wasn't stated how
many miles for the oil consumption but it is going to take some diagnosis to
determine what is causing it. A little more than my crystal ball can
determine......
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
news:8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
converter failure and a few others the quality stinks. It wasn't stated how
many miles for the oil consumption but it is going to take some diagnosis to
determine what is causing it. A little more than my crystal ball can
determine......
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote in message
news:8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
#36
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
#37
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
Woody wrote:
> If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
> keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
> transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
> converter failure and a few others the quality stinks.
Obviously you haven't been keeping up on reality. At least Honda has
acknowledged these problems and have been working to fix them. Do you
expect the big 3 to do the same? Of course not! Unlike the big 3, Honda
remains committed to quality.
> If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
> keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
> transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
> converter failure and a few others the quality stinks.
Obviously you haven't been keeping up on reality. At least Honda has
acknowledged these problems and have been working to fix them. Do you
expect the big 3 to do the same? Of course not! Unlike the big 3, Honda
remains committed to quality.
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
Woody wrote:
> If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
> keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
> transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
> converter failure and a few others the quality stinks.
Obviously you haven't been keeping up on reality. At least Honda has
acknowledged these problems and have been working to fix them. Do you
expect the big 3 to do the same? Of course not! Unlike the big 3, Honda
remains committed to quality.
> If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
> keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
> transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
> converter failure and a few others the quality stinks.
Obviously you haven't been keeping up on reality. At least Honda has
acknowledged these problems and have been working to fix them. Do you
expect the big 3 to do the same? Of course not! Unlike the big 3, Honda
remains committed to quality.
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
Woody wrote:
> If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
> keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
> transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
> converter failure and a few others the quality stinks.
Obviously you haven't been keeping up on reality. At least Honda has
acknowledged these problems and have been working to fix them. Do you
expect the big 3 to do the same? Of course not! Unlike the big 3, Honda
remains committed to quality.
> If you think Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality you haven't been
> keeping up on the Odyssey, especially the 99-01 models. Other than
> transmission failures, EGR blockage, motor mount failure, Catalytic
> converter failure and a few others the quality stinks.
Obviously you haven't been keeping up on reality. At least Honda has
acknowledged these problems and have been working to fix them. Do you
expect the big 3 to do the same? Of course not! Unlike the big 3, Honda
remains committed to quality.
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In article
<a41422c30183a1ba9b462ceaaac2b698@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
> transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
> is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
> customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
> rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
> Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
All car companies have troubles related to some models. The question is
related to how the car companies handle these issues. Based upon my
experiece with a Dodge Ram 50 pickup truck and 2 Honda Accords--it's my
opinion that Honda does a much better job than the Chrysler Inc. in
relation to how they handled problems that I have had. Of course, Chrysler
has now been taken over by Mercedes so they may now be doing a much better
job dealing with customer complaints.
Jason
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<a41422c30183a1ba9b462ceaaac2b698@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
> transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
> is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
> customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
> rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
> Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
All car companies have troubles related to some models. The question is
related to how the car companies handle these issues. Based upon my
experiece with a Dodge Ram 50 pickup truck and 2 Honda Accords--it's my
opinion that Honda does a much better job than the Chrysler Inc. in
relation to how they handled problems that I have had. Of course, Chrysler
has now been taken over by Mercedes so they may now be doing a much better
job dealing with customer complaints.
Jason
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
In article
<a41422c30183a1ba9b462ceaaac2b698@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
> transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
> is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
> customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
> rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
> Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
All car companies have troubles related to some models. The question is
related to how the car companies handle these issues. Based upon my
experiece with a Dodge Ram 50 pickup truck and 2 Honda Accords--it's my
opinion that Honda does a much better job than the Chrysler Inc. in
relation to how they handled problems that I have had. Of course, Chrysler
has now been taken over by Mercedes so they may now be doing a much better
job dealing with customer complaints.
Jason
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<a41422c30183a1ba9b462ceaaac2b698@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
> transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
> is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
> customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
> rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
> Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
All car companies have troubles related to some models. The question is
related to how the car companies handle these issues. Based upon my
experiece with a Dodge Ram 50 pickup truck and 2 Honda Accords--it's my
opinion that Honda does a much better job than the Chrysler Inc. in
relation to how they handled problems that I have had. Of course, Chrysler
has now been taken over by Mercedes so they may now be doing a much better
job dealing with customer complaints.
Jason
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#43
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
In article
<a41422c30183a1ba9b462ceaaac2b698@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
> transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
> is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
> customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
> rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
> Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
All car companies have troubles related to some models. The question is
related to how the car companies handle these issues. Based upon my
experiece with a Dodge Ram 50 pickup truck and 2 Honda Accords--it's my
opinion that Honda does a much better job than the Chrysler Inc. in
relation to how they handled problems that I have had. Of course, Chrysler
has now been taken over by Mercedes so they may now be doing a much better
job dealing with customer complaints.
Jason
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<a41422c30183a1ba9b462ceaaac2b698@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"duckbill" <ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> Woody, I stand behind my comment about Honda Quality. Yes they do have
> transmission failures, but did Honda extend the warranty? If the problem
> is a Honda design or maufacturing problem, I bet they will assist the
> customer. I have yet to see an Ody in the junk yard and Consumer Reports
> rates the Odyssey as a "CR Good Bets" on page 80 of its 2006 Annual Auto
> Issue. The Ody is not perfect but you could do a lot worse.
All car companies have troubles related to some models. The question is
related to how the car companies handle these issues. Based upon my
experiece with a Dodge Ram 50 pickup truck and 2 Honda Accords--it's my
opinion that Honda does a much better job than the Chrysler Inc. in
relation to how they handled problems that I have had. Of course, Chrysler
has now been taken over by Mercedes so they may now be doing a much better
job dealing with customer complaints.
Jason
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#44
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
The van has never overheated; I am the original owner; I also have an
extended warranty.
Be
On 4/23/06 9:03 AM, in article
8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@loc...o utautos.com, "duckbill"
<ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
extended warranty.
Be
On 4/23/06 9:03 AM, in article
8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@loc...o utautos.com, "duckbill"
<ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
#45
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Re: Where is my oil disappearing to?
The van has never overheated; I am the original owner; I also have an
extended warranty.
Be
On 4/23/06 9:03 AM, in article
8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@loc...o utautos.com, "duckbill"
<ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>
extended warranty.
Be
On 4/23/06 9:03 AM, in article
8b5941a40f570176841111c214475526@loc...o utautos.com, "duckbill"
<ltcauth13@nospam.cs.com> wrote:
> I would suggest a visit to the dealer, get an estimate, and then call Honda
> Customer Service. Honda has a tremendous reputation for quality and I
> would see what they would consider doing on your behalf. Be polite, but
> firm about this issue. Has the van ever overheated and are you the
> original owner? Good luck.
>