I guess we would be better off if the government gave us all free medical
care, free drugs. Why stop there? What about giving us a free insured car
to go to the doctor, as well as buying the gas to run it. How about a free
cell phone to call 911 if needed? How about three months paid medical
leave for us and our families when somebody gets sick? How about maid
service when we can't clean the house when we get sick. How about paying
somebody do to our grocery shopping? How about a minimum wage of $25 a
hour, and a 30 hour week so we don't have to work hard to get the things we
'need?' How about a displaced worker payment equal to our take home pay,
when all of our jobs go off shore because of all the imports we buy? How
about a free college education like in Russia, so we can go to China to
design the Toyotas they will soon build there for the American market? Hell
we can just raise the death tax to 95% and raise tax rates for the rich to
90% again, the rate in pre President Kennedy days, at least till the rich
start moving out of the county, like they are doing in France

mike hunt


"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ese7d2d58nl2paq0dorukf3gsier90karl@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:25 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>>
>>mike hunt
>
> 1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does not
> have universal nationalized health care (and by far the richest and most
> productive because if it)

 

I guess we would be better off if the government gave us all free medical
care, free drugs. Why stop there? What about giving us a free insured car
to go to the doctor, as well as buying the gas to run it. How about a free
cell phone to call 911 if needed? How about three months paid medical
leave for us and our families when somebody gets sick? How about maid
service when we can't clean the house when we get sick. How about paying
somebody do to our grocery shopping? How about a minimum wage of $25 a
hour, and a 30 hour week so we don't have to work hard to get the things we
'need?' How about a displaced worker payment equal to our take home pay,
when all of our jobs go off shore because of all the imports we buy? How
about a free college education like in Russia, so we can go to China to
design the Toyotas they will soon build there for the American market? Hell
we can just raise the death tax to 95% and raise tax rates for the rich to
90% again, the rate in pre President Kennedy days, at least till the rich
start moving out of the county, like they are doing in France

mike hunt


"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ese7d2d58nl2paq0dorukf3gsier90karl@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:25 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>>
>>mike hunt
>
> 1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does not
> have universal nationalized health care (and by far the richest and most
> productive because if it)

 

I guess we would be better off if the government gave us all free medical
care, free drugs. Why stop there? What about giving us a free insured car
to go to the doctor, as well as buying the gas to run it. How about a free
cell phone to call 911 if needed? How about three months paid medical
leave for us and our families when somebody gets sick? How about maid
service when we can't clean the house when we get sick. How about paying
somebody do to our grocery shopping? How about a minimum wage of $25 a
hour, and a 30 hour week so we don't have to work hard to get the things we
'need?' How about a displaced worker payment equal to our take home pay,
when all of our jobs go off shore because of all the imports we buy? How
about a free college education like in Russia, so we can go to China to
design the Toyotas they will soon build there for the American market? Hell
we can just raise the death tax to 95% and raise tax rates for the rich to
90% again, the rate in pre President Kennedy days, at least till the rich
start moving out of the county, like they are doing in France

mike hunt


"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ese7d2d58nl2paq0dorukf3gsier90karl@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:25 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>>
>>mike hunt
>
> 1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does not
> have universal nationalized health care (and by far the richest and most
> productive because if it)

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
945457.18200404082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com:

> In article <jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> WHO THE CARES?
>
> Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
>
> Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
> previously fine newgroup into.
>


Obviously you don't care about things that are important. So why not just
overlook the off-topic threads and move on? Or killfile some folks. You
pencil necked geek.

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
945457.18200404082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com:

> In article <jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> WHO THE CARES?
>
> Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
>
> Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
> previously fine newgroup into.
>


Obviously you don't care about things that are important. So why not just
overlook the off-topic threads and move on? Or killfile some folks. You
pencil necked geek.

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
945457.18200404082006@nntp2.usenetserver.com:

> In article <jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com>,
> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
> WHO THE CARES?
>
> Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
>
> Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
> previously fine newgroup into.
>


Obviously you don't care about things that are important. So why not just
overlook the off-topic threads and move on? Or killfile some folks. You
pencil necked geek.

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In article <1154737151_17705@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
grappletech <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote:

> > WHO THE CARES?
> >
> > Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
> >
> > Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
> > previously fine newgroup into.
> >
>
>
> Obviously you don't care about things that are important.

I care.

But you don't get into heated debates about health care in the middle of
my son's school Christmas play.

Everything has an appropriate time and place, and an inappropriate time
and place.

I suppose you go to Wendy's and stand at people's lunch tables and start
screaming your opinions about welfare, right? After all--according to
you--"you care" and therefore it's appropriate, right?

 

In article <1154737151_17705@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
grappletech <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote:

> > WHO THE CARES?
> >
> > Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
> >
> > Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
> > previously fine newgroup into.
> >
>
>
> Obviously you don't care about things that are important.

I care.

But you don't get into heated debates about health care in the middle of
my son's school Christmas play.

Everything has an appropriate time and place, and an inappropriate time
and place.

I suppose you go to Wendy's and stand at people's lunch tables and start
screaming your opinions about welfare, right? After all--according to
you--"you care" and therefore it's appropriate, right?

 

In article <1154737151_17705@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
grappletech <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote:

> > WHO THE CARES?
> >
> > Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
> >
> > Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
> > previously fine newgroup into.
> >
>
>
> Obviously you don't care about things that are important.

I care.

But you don't get into heated debates about health care in the middle of
my son's school Christmas play.

Everything has an appropriate time and place, and an inappropriate time
and place.

I suppose you go to Wendy's and stand at people's lunch tables and start
screaming your opinions about welfare, right? After all--according to
you--"you care" and therefore it's appropriate, right?

 

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:8_KcnUgDvvVDV07ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Only in your small world LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>>
>> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>>
>
>

Detroit can build cars? That is a new one.

 

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:8_KcnUgDvvVDV07ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Only in your small world LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>>
>> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>>
>
>

Detroit can build cars? That is a new one.

 

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:8_KcnUgDvvVDV07ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Only in your small world LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>>
>> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>>
>
>

Detroit can build cars? That is a new one.

 

In article <OaOcnVJcOYmtxU7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:

> Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
> difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
> buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
> if from you in taxes.
Correct.
> They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
> receive your 'Free' care.
Incorrect.
> Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
> that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
> cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
> government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
> were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
> hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay. A hospital bed a
> days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
> seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
> the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
> including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
I base my above comments on Canada, which has had Gov. basic medical
care for many years at a nominal quarterly cost per individual.
Medical costs in Canada are much less and even those who don't have a
good medical plan or lots of money get the same care.
A big cost saving in Canada is the approx. 30% cost in the USA of
insurer overhead cost.
As for drugs they are much lower cost in Canada and there is a rebate
based on income. Those with lots of money can afford the drugs.

The stories of USA citizens, often seniors, who can't afford required
medical procedures, is very sad.
Even China has very low cost or free medical.

 

In article <OaOcnVJcOYmtxU7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:

> Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
> difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
> buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
> if from you in taxes.
Correct.
> They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
> receive your 'Free' care.
Incorrect.
> Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
> that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
> cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
> government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
> were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
> hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay. A hospital bed a
> days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
> seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
> the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
> including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
I base my above comments on Canada, which has had Gov. basic medical
care for many years at a nominal quarterly cost per individual.
Medical costs in Canada are much less and even those who don't have a
good medical plan or lots of money get the same care.
A big cost saving in Canada is the approx. 30% cost in the USA of
insurer overhead cost.
As for drugs they are much lower cost in Canada and there is a rebate
based on income. Those with lots of money can afford the drugs.

The stories of USA citizens, often seniors, who can't afford required
medical procedures, is very sad.
Even China has very low cost or free medical.

 

In article <OaOcnVJcOYmtxU7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:

> Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
> difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
> buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
> if from you in taxes.
Correct.
> They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
> receive your 'Free' care.
Incorrect.
> Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
> that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
> cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
> government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
> were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
> hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay. A hospital bed a
> days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
> seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
> the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
> including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
I base my above comments on Canada, which has had Gov. basic medical
care for many years at a nominal quarterly cost per individual.
Medical costs in Canada are much less and even those who don't have a
good medical plan or lots of money get the same care.
A big cost saving in Canada is the approx. 30% cost in the USA of
insurer overhead cost.
As for drugs they are much lower cost in Canada and there is a rebate
based on income. Those with lots of money can afford the drugs.

The stories of USA citizens, often seniors, who can't afford required
medical procedures, is very sad.
Even China has very low cost or free medical.