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Jeff 09-22-2004 12:51 AM

Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
outside air is the default setting. (?)

2000 Accord v6 sedan

Jeff

Sparky 09-22-2004 02:58 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Jeff wrote:

> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)


Honda flipped a coin, maybe?

Sparky 09-22-2004 02:58 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Jeff wrote:

> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)


Honda flipped a coin, maybe?

rjdriver 09-22-2004 06:18 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net...
> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff



Probably the same reason many other car manufactures do, so that can
have that ridiculouly labelled "Max Air" button, which merely changes the
air flow from outside to recirculate, and makes people think they have two
levels of air conditioning power.


Bob


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rjdriver 09-22-2004 06:18 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net...
> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff



Probably the same reason many other car manufactures do, so that can
have that ridiculouly labelled "Max Air" button, which merely changes the
air flow from outside to recirculate, and makes people think they have two
levels of air conditioning power.


Bob


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E. Meyer 09-22-2004 09:37 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
On 9/21/04 11:51 PM, in article
jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net, "Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net>
wrote:

> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff


The AC uses a "just enough and no more" sort of logic. When it decides it
can't achieve the temperature you asked it for, then it opens the recirc
door. If you have the AC where you select a temperature, set it to 60
degrees (F) and the recirc light will come on immediately (unless the
outside temperature is 40).

You should know that even when you put it in recirc, a small amount of
outside air is still drawn in. This is so you don't pass out from your own
exhaust fumes concentrating in the car.


E. Meyer 09-22-2004 09:37 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
On 9/21/04 11:51 PM, in article
jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net, "Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net>
wrote:

> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff


The AC uses a "just enough and no more" sort of logic. When it decides it
can't achieve the temperature you asked it for, then it opens the recirc
door. If you have the AC where you select a temperature, set it to 60
degrees (F) and the recirc light will come on immediately (unless the
outside temperature is 40).

You should know that even when you put it in recirc, a small amount of
outside air is still drawn in. This is so you don't pass out from your own
exhaust fumes concentrating in the car.


Brian Smith 09-22-2004 09:40 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD76EA32.9E306%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>
> The AC uses a "just enough and no more" sort of logic. When it decides it
> can't achieve the temperature you asked it for, then it opens the recirc
> door. If you have the AC where you select a temperature, set it to 60
> degrees (F) and the recirc light will come on immediately (unless the
> outside temperature is 40).


That's interesting. Perhaps you should have your vehicle's system checked
for a problem. My A/C does nothing, unless I tell (push a button) it to
perform a task.


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Brian Smith 09-22-2004 09:40 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD76EA32.9E306%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>
> The AC uses a "just enough and no more" sort of logic. When it decides it
> can't achieve the temperature you asked it for, then it opens the recirc
> door. If you have the AC where you select a temperature, set it to 60
> degrees (F) and the recirc light will come on immediately (unless the
> outside temperature is 40).


That's interesting. Perhaps you should have your vehicle's system checked
for a problem. My A/C does nothing, unless I tell (push a button) it to
perform a task.


--
Brian

http://www.cakesbydarlene.ca

http://www.accesswave.ca/~orion



George Kinley 09-22-2004 09:56 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Jeff wrote:

> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive
> mostly in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the
> car, so I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to
> why outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff


I have 99 Accord, European Model With Automatic AC, when I use it on
Full AUTO , the outside Air vent is closed, which make sense, on
Manual I presume every setting should me manual.
Few months back I was in LA , where I drive Toyota Camry , in which
outside air vent was independent of using AC

George Kinley 09-22-2004 09:56 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Jeff wrote:

> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive
> mostly in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the
> car, so I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to
> why outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff


I have 99 Accord, European Model With Automatic AC, when I use it on
Full AUTO , the outside Air vent is closed, which make sense, on
Manual I presume every setting should me manual.
Few months back I was in LA , where I drive Toyota Camry , in which
outside air vent was independent of using AC

Rob 09-22-2004 11:00 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Sparky <nemo@moon.sun.edu> wrote in message news:<eo94d.304$6X1.643858@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >...
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> > outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> > in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> > I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> > outside air is the default setting. (?)

>
> Honda flipped a coin, maybe?


Because once the inside air has been dehumidified through the process
of a/c, the a/c will struggle to cool that air again.

recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
(unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).

also windshield will fog up in certain conditions when using recirc.

rob

Rob 09-22-2004 11:00 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Sparky <nemo@moon.sun.edu> wrote in message news:<eo94d.304$6X1.643858@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >...
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> > outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> > in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> > I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> > outside air is the default setting. (?)

>
> Honda flipped a coin, maybe?


Because once the inside air has been dehumidified through the process
of a/c, the a/c will struggle to cool that air again.

recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
(unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).

also windshield will fog up in certain conditions when using recirc.

rob

Howard Lester 09-22-2004 11:25 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"Rob" wrote

> recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
> only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
> but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
> (unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).


This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
fresh a/c. Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
recirculate. The a/c won't have to work so hard, cooling air that is already
temperate, not at inferno-grade.



Howard Lester 09-22-2004 11:25 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"Rob" wrote

> recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
> only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
> but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
> (unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).


This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
fresh a/c. Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
recirculate. The a/c won't have to work so hard, cooling air that is already
temperate, not at inferno-grade.



MLD 09-22-2004 11:39 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Might be a function of the climate control temperature setting. Put the
temperature at minimum (60) and see if the recirc light comes on. I have a
2000 Accord V6 and that's what happens.
MLD
"Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net...
> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff




MLD 09-22-2004 11:39 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Might be a function of the climate control temperature setting. Put the
temperature at minimum (60) and see if the recirc light comes on. I have a
2000 Accord V6 and that's what happens.
MLD
"Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net...
> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff




Abeness 09-22-2004 01:33 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Howard Lester wrote:
> "Rob" wrote
>
>
>>recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
>>only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
>>but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
>>(unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).

>
>
> This is all backwards to me


Right. Backwards. It's easier to make already cool air colder, or to
keep it cool--there's less heat to remove to the cooling coils. Also,
same goes for humidity. If you keep pumping super humid air from outside
into the car, the air won't necessarily get as dry as it would if you
use the recirc setting.

I'd guess it's switching back to outside air for safety reasons--these
newer cars are so airtight that one needs a fresh supply or air to
prevent CO poisoning if there were a problem with your exhaust system,
for example. Or as others have suggested, the climate control could be
doing it based on air temp.

Abeness 09-22-2004 01:33 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Howard Lester wrote:
> "Rob" wrote
>
>
>>recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
>>only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
>>but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
>>(unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).

>
>
> This is all backwards to me


Right. Backwards. It's easier to make already cool air colder, or to
keep it cool--there's less heat to remove to the cooling coils. Also,
same goes for humidity. If you keep pumping super humid air from outside
into the car, the air won't necessarily get as dry as it would if you
use the recirc setting.

I'd guess it's switching back to outside air for safety reasons--these
newer cars are so airtight that one needs a fresh supply or air to
prevent CO poisoning if there were a problem with your exhaust system,
for example. Or as others have suggested, the climate control could be
doing it based on air temp.

D_Hawg 09-22-2004 01:39 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net...
> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff


With the cab of the vehicle preasurized with outside air, exhaust fumes
cannot enter the car. As a default outside air ensures carbon monoxide free
air.......................

dale P....................



D_Hawg 09-22-2004 01:39 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"Jeff" <jeff@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:jeff-EC6298.00511822092004@news.east.cox.net...
> Just wondering--whenever I use the AC, my Accord keeps defaulting to
> outside air (as do most newer vehicles, I've noticed). I drive mostly
> in traffic and don't like to breathe exhaust fumes filling the car, so
> I'm continually resetting it to recirc. But I'm curious as to why
> outside air is the default setting. (?)
>
> 2000 Accord v6 sedan
>
> Jeff


With the cab of the vehicle preasurized with outside air, exhaust fumes
cannot enter the car. As a default outside air ensures carbon monoxide free
air.......................

dale P....................



Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-22-2004 05:14 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
In article <44a41d1c.0409220700.28e167e1@posting.google.com >,
onerpm@yahoo.com (Rob) wrote:

> Because once the inside air has been dehumidified through the process
> of a/c, the a/c will struggle to cool that air again.
>
> recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
> only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
> but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
> (unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).


Ummmmm......no, not at all.......

It will ALWAYS be less efficient to dehumidify the outside fresh air
than the inside recirculating air.

Really. Honestly. Truly.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-22-2004 05:14 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
In article <44a41d1c.0409220700.28e167e1@posting.google.com >,
onerpm@yahoo.com (Rob) wrote:

> Because once the inside air has been dehumidified through the process
> of a/c, the a/c will struggle to cool that air again.
>
> recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
> only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
> but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
> (unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).


Ummmmm......no, not at all.......

It will ALWAYS be less efficient to dehumidify the outside fresh air
than the inside recirculating air.

Really. Honestly. Truly.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-22-2004 05:16 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
In article <cis5hd$7i9$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>,
"Howard Lester" <hlester@mmto.org> wrote:

> This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
> climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
> be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
> fresh a/c.


That's correct, and also open the windows so that the fresh a/c is
blowing the stale inside air out.



> Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
> recirculate.


That's correct. Once the inside and the outside have equalized, you
roll up the windows and hit recirculate. Now the inside will stay much
cooler than the outside, and will stay much cooler than if it had to
cool and dehumidify the outside air.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-22-2004 05:16 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
In article <cis5hd$7i9$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>,
"Howard Lester" <hlester@mmto.org> wrote:

> This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
> climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
> be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
> fresh a/c.


That's correct, and also open the windows so that the fresh a/c is
blowing the stale inside air out.



> Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
> recirculate.


That's correct. Once the inside and the outside have equalized, you
roll up the windows and hit recirculate. Now the inside will stay much
cooler than the outside, and will stay much cooler than if it had to
cool and dehumidify the outside air.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-22-2004 05:16 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
In article <4151b764$0$2652$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>,
Abeness <news@nada.x> wrote:

> I'd guess it's switching back to outside air for safety reasons--these
> newer cars are so airtight that one needs a fresh supply or air to
> prevent CO poisoning if there were a problem with your exhaust system,
> for example.


Cars aren't like modern buildings. ALL cars bring in some fresh air,
even on recirculate.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 09-22-2004 05:16 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
In article <4151b764$0$2652$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>,
Abeness <news@nada.x> wrote:

> I'd guess it's switching back to outside air for safety reasons--these
> newer cars are so airtight that one needs a fresh supply or air to
> prevent CO poisoning if there were a problem with your exhaust system,
> for example.


Cars aren't like modern buildings. ALL cars bring in some fresh air,
even on recirculate.


SoCalMike 09-22-2004 05:40 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Howard Lester wrote:

>
> This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
> climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
> be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
> fresh a/c.


even easier is to just roll the wondows down and drive for a mile. that
gets the 140+ degree air out.

Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
> recirculate. The a/c won't have to work so hard, cooling air that is already
> temperate, not at inferno-grade.
>
>


SoCalMike 09-22-2004 05:40 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Howard Lester wrote:

>
> This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
> climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
> be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
> fresh a/c.


even easier is to just roll the wondows down and drive for a mile. that
gets the 140+ degree air out.

Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
> recirculate. The a/c won't have to work so hard, cooling air that is already
> temperate, not at inferno-grade.
>
>


E. Meyer 09-22-2004 06:12 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
On 9/22/04 10:25 AM, in article cis5hd$7i9$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu, "Howard
Lester" <hlester@mmto.org> wrote:

>
> "Rob" wrote
>
>> recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
>> only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
>> but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
>> (unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).

>
> This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
> climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
> be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
> fresh a/c. Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
> recirculate. The a/c won't have to work so hard, cooling air that is already
> temperate, not at inferno-grade.
>
>


From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read faster)
results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several inches
for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
(warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
superheated air out the windows.


E. Meyer 09-22-2004 06:12 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
On 9/22/04 10:25 AM, in article cis5hd$7i9$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu, "Howard
Lester" <hlester@mmto.org> wrote:

>
> "Rob" wrote
>
>> recirc works great to cool a steamy car initially, because it is not
>> only throwing cold air at you, but is taking away the hot inside air.
>> but once the car has cooled you want to switch back to outside air
>> (unless a situation like behind a bus, etc., as you mention).

>
> This is all backwards to me, unless it's because I live in a hot, dry
> climate. When first getting into the car, the temperature inside the car can
> be 40 degrees hotter than outside; therefore, here one first needs to use
> fresh a/c. Once the interior starts to cool off, *then* switch to
> recirculate. The a/c won't have to work so hard, cooling air that is already
> temperate, not at inferno-grade.
>
>


From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read faster)
results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several inches
for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
(warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
superheated air out the windows.


Howard Lester 09-22-2004 06:53 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"E. Meyer" wrote

> From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read faster)
> results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several inches
> for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
> (warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
> superheated air out the windows.


Thanks for that idea - I'll try it. Fortunately, the temperatures around
here in southern Arizona have suddenly cooled to "humane," so really I'm
hoping I don't have to get a chance to try it until next May.



Howard Lester 09-22-2004 06:53 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"E. Meyer" wrote

> From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read faster)
> results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several inches
> for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
> (warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
> superheated air out the windows.


Thanks for that idea - I'll try it. Fortunately, the temperatures around
here in southern Arizona have suddenly cooled to "humane," so really I'm
hoping I don't have to get a chance to try it until next May.



MAT 09-22-2004 08:44 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD776302.9E55C%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>
> From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read faster)
> results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several inches
> for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
> (warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
> superheated air out the windows.
>


Bah, this is still unclear to me with no concensus on the best method. It
is agreed that opening/cracking the windows when first driving will evacuate
the heated air, but afterwards there are 2 camps.

1. Start in recirc and then switch to fresh after temp stabilization.
2. Start in fresh and then switch to recirc.

I think 2 is more intuitive and that's what I do!



MAT 09-22-2004 08:44 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD776302.9E55C%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>
> From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read faster)
> results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several inches
> for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
> (warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
> superheated air out the windows.
>


Bah, this is still unclear to me with no concensus on the best method. It
is agreed that opening/cracking the windows when first driving will evacuate
the heated air, but afterwards there are 2 camps.

1. Start in recirc and then switch to fresh after temp stabilization.
2. Start in fresh and then switch to recirc.

I think 2 is more intuitive and that's what I do!



Howard Lester 09-22-2004 09:12 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"MAT" wrote

> Bah, this is still unclear to me with no concensus on the best method. It
> is agreed that opening/cracking the windows when first driving will

evacuate
> the heated air, but afterwards there are 2 camps.
>
> 1. Start in recirc and then switch to fresh after temp stabilization.
> 2. Start in fresh and then switch to recirc.
>
> I think 2 is more intuitive and that's what I do!


That's what *I* do, too. Now, here are excerpts from the (Accord 2004)
MANUAL. Remember that thing? ;)

* If the outside air is humid, select recirculation mode. If the outside
air is dry, select Fresh Air mode.

* If the interior is very warm, you can cool it down more rapidly by
partially opening the windows, turning on the A/C, and setting the fan to
maximum speed in Fresh Air mode.

HAH!




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Howard Lester 09-22-2004 09:12 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 

"MAT" wrote

> Bah, this is still unclear to me with no concensus on the best method. It
> is agreed that opening/cracking the windows when first driving will

evacuate
> the heated air, but afterwards there are 2 camps.
>
> 1. Start in recirc and then switch to fresh after temp stabilization.
> 2. Start in fresh and then switch to recirc.
>
> I think 2 is more intuitive and that's what I do!


That's what *I* do, too. Now, here are excerpts from the (Accord 2004)
MANUAL. Remember that thing? ;)

* If the outside air is humid, select recirculation mode. If the outside
air is dry, select Fresh Air mode.

* If the interior is very warm, you can cool it down more rapidly by
partially opening the windows, turning on the A/C, and setting the fan to
maximum speed in Fresh Air mode.

HAH!




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Donald F Boudreau 09-22-2004 09:27 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
How about reading to owner's manual, it's all in there in my book. The
manufacturing
engineers wouldn't have put their recommendations in there if they didn't
think it
would help the owner.

D.

"MAT" <marcoatRM_SPAM@DEL_SPAmsnotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GM6dnWmr1uPQgc_cRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD776302.9E55C%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >
> > From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read

faster)
> > results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several

inches
> > for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
> > (warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
> > superheated air out the windows.
> >

>
> Bah, this is still unclear to me with no concensus on the best method. It
> is agreed that opening/cracking the windows when first driving will

evacuate
> the heated air, but afterwards there are 2 camps.
>
> 1. Start in recirc and then switch to fresh after temp stabilization.
> 2. Start in fresh and then switch to recirc.
>
> I think 2 is more intuitive and that's what I do!
>
>




Donald F Boudreau 09-22-2004 09:27 PM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
How about reading to owner's manual, it's all in there in my book. The
manufacturing
engineers wouldn't have put their recommendations in there if they didn't
think it
would help the owner.

D.

"MAT" <marcoatRM_SPAM@DEL_SPAmsnotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GM6dnWmr1uPQgc_cRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD776302.9E55C%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >
> > From another resident of a hot climate - you will get better (read

faster)
> > results if you let it go into recirc and crack the windows several

inches
> > for the first couple of minutes. The AC will cool faster and convection
> > (warm air rises) plus whatever breeze there might be will draw the
> > superheated air out the windows.
> >

>
> Bah, this is still unclear to me with no concensus on the best method. It
> is agreed that opening/cracking the windows when first driving will

evacuate
> the heated air, but afterwards there are 2 camps.
>
> 1. Start in recirc and then switch to fresh after temp stabilization.
> 2. Start in fresh and then switch to recirc.
>
> I think 2 is more intuitive and that's what I do!
>
>




Abeness 09-23-2004 01:44 AM

Re: Why do vents default to outside air?
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> Cars aren't like modern buildings. ALL cars bring in some fresh air,
> even on recirculate.


Hmmm, if you say so. Certainly my '94 Civic does. ;-)


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