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jim beam 07-04-2007 02:54 PM

will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
from:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...tG1k8AcAms0NUE

we learn that:
"Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during the
same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small cars and
the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."

are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little help.
you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know about
the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are you?

Jim Yanik 07-04-2007 05:22 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> from:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>
> we learn that:
> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during
> the same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small
> cars and the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>
> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little
> help.
> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know
> about
> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
> you?
>


I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 07-04-2007 05:22 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> from:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>
> we learn that:
> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during
> the same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small
> cars and the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>
> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little
> help.
> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know
> about
> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
> you?
>


I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 07-04-2007 05:22 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> from:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>
> we learn that:
> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during
> the same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small
> cars and the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>
> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little
> help.
> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know
> about
> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
> you?
>


I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-04-2007 06:12 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.


I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
transmission at that market.

After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-04-2007 06:12 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.


I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
transmission at that market.

After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-04-2007 06:12 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.


I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
transmission at that market.

After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.


Hachiroku ハチロク 07-04-2007 08:57 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:22:48 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:

> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> from:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
>> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>>
>> we learn that:
>> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during the
>> same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small cars and
>> the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>>
>> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
>> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little help.
>> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know about
>> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
>> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
>> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
>> you?
>>
>>

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude. Update it with LED turnsignals
> and taillights. Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.



I have a Supra (88) and a Scion tC (05)

The seating position in the Civic Si is the same as the Supra.
The seating position in the Scion is the same as Outback Steakhouse.

Wish I had bought the Civic...



Hachiroku ハチロク 07-04-2007 08:57 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:22:48 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:

> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> from:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
>> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>>
>> we learn that:
>> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during the
>> same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small cars and
>> the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>>
>> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
>> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little help.
>> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know about
>> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
>> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
>> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
>> you?
>>
>>

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude. Update it with LED turnsignals
> and taillights. Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.



I have a Supra (88) and a Scion tC (05)

The seating position in the Civic Si is the same as the Supra.
The seating position in the Scion is the same as Outback Steakhouse.

Wish I had bought the Civic...



Hachiroku ハチロク 07-04-2007 08:57 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:22:48 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:

> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> from:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
>> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>>
>> we learn that:
>> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during the
>> same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small cars and
>> the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>>
>> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
>> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little help.
>> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know about
>> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
>> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
>> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
>> you?
>>
>>

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude. Update it with LED turnsignals
> and taillights. Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.



I have a Supra (88) and a Scion tC (05)

The seating position in the Civic Si is the same as the Supra.
The seating position in the Scion is the same as Outback Steakhouse.

Wish I had bought the Civic...



jim beam 07-04-2007 09:24 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
>> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
>> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
>> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
>> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

>
> I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
> transmission at that market.
>
> After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.
>

in which case, why not just sell a prelude? nobody buys an accord if
they want something that is a little more fun. just like the crx was a
no-brainer body transplant from the civic, so should be the prelude.

jim beam 07-04-2007 09:24 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
>> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
>> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
>> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
>> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

>
> I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
> transmission at that market.
>
> After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.
>

in which case, why not just sell a prelude? nobody buys an accord if
they want something that is a little more fun. just like the crx was a
no-brainer body transplant from the civic, so should be the prelude.

jim beam 07-04-2007 09:24 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
>> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
>> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
>> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
>> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

>
> I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
> transmission at that market.
>
> After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.
>

in which case, why not just sell a prelude? nobody buys an accord if
they want something that is a little more fun. just like the crx was a
no-brainer body transplant from the civic, so should be the prelude.

Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-04-2007 11:16 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
In article <S6CdnX3Ol7PF1RHbnZ2dnUVZ_rS3nZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

> > I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
> > transmission at that market.
> >
> > After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.
> >

> in which case, why not just sell a prelude?


Ah, but you forget: the beancounters were in charge during that time.

It is cheaper to make the Accord than a model with different sheet metal
and interior.

They may yet bring back the 'lude, now that the engineers seem to be
back on the throne, but no doubt it's way down on their to-do list.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 07-04-2007 11:16 PM

Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?
 
In article <S6CdnX3Ol7PF1RHbnZ2dnUVZ_rS3nZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

> > I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
> > transmission at that market.
> >
> > After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.
> >

> in which case, why not just sell a prelude?


Ah, but you forget: the beancounters were in charge during that time.

It is cheaper to make the Accord than a model with different sheet metal
and interior.

They may yet bring back the 'lude, now that the engineers seem to be
back on the throne, but no doubt it's way down on their to-do list.



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