Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
> If you rate a design poor just because of fuel economy, then you're being
> rather narrow-minded as to all the variables of powertrain design. 20 years ago you might have been right, but today there's precious little excuse for sub-17 mpg efficiency - given primarily steady highway driving - in a vehicle as relatively small and light as the Santa Fe. As already indicated, my 10 year-old, much heavier Explorer (with performance that easily equals the SF's) was not only giving me better gas mileage, it did so for over 154,000 trouble-free miles, and with minimal maintenance on my part. What advantages above that should I expect from the SF as my "trade-off" for the reduced mileage? I'm not being confrontational about this (I prefer to leave the mindlessly obnoxious behavior to Pete and his ilk). I'm genuinely looking for answers. |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
I must apologize to all respondants to this part of my inquiry, and
offer a modification to my observations. This morning I made a point of paying extra attention to the issue and noted that, while there is indeed a little extra mechanical resistance, the sudden acceleration didn't correlate as closely with the "breaking" of the pedel as I previously perceived. There is actually a very tiny delay between that event and the sudden acceleration, leading me to suspect the electronics as the culprit. Does that sound more reasonable? If so, is it something easily addressed by the dealer? |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
I must apologize to all respondants to this part of my inquiry, and
offer a modification to my observations. This morning I made a point of paying extra attention to the issue and noted that, while there is indeed a little extra mechanical resistance, the sudden acceleration didn't correlate as closely with the "breaking" of the pedel as I previously perceived. There is actually a very tiny delay between that event and the sudden acceleration, leading me to suspect the electronics as the culprit. Does that sound more reasonable? If so, is it something easily addressed by the dealer? |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
I must apologize to all respondants to this part of my inquiry, and
offer a modification to my observations. This morning I made a point of paying extra attention to the issue and noted that, while there is indeed a little extra mechanical resistance, the sudden acceleration didn't correlate as closely with the "breaking" of the pedel as I previously perceived. There is actually a very tiny delay between that event and the sudden acceleration, leading me to suspect the electronics as the culprit. Does that sound more reasonable? If so, is it something easily addressed by the dealer? |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
notice how you left the other persons message out..;-)
"WuzYoungOnceToo" <wuzyoungoncetoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1140535938.319136.193210@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... >> making friends all over I see.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm makes ya wonder dont it??? > > Yes...it makes me wonder how you've managed to survive this long > without any demonstrable brain activity. The quote in the post you're > replying to was from YOU in another thread. Are you on some sort of > medication? > |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
notice how you left the other persons message out..;-)
"WuzYoungOnceToo" <wuzyoungoncetoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1140535938.319136.193210@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... >> making friends all over I see.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm makes ya wonder dont it??? > > Yes...it makes me wonder how you've managed to survive this long > without any demonstrable brain activity. The quote in the post you're > replying to was from YOU in another thread. Are you on some sort of > medication? > |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
notice how you left the other persons message out..;-)
"WuzYoungOnceToo" <wuzyoungoncetoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1140535938.319136.193210@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... >> making friends all over I see.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm makes ya wonder dont it??? > > Yes...it makes me wonder how you've managed to survive this long > without any demonstrable brain activity. The quote in the post you're > replying to was from YOU in another thread. Are you on some sort of > medication? > |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
> notice how you left the other persons message out..;-)
I notice how you gloss over the fact that your previous response was brain-dead. In any event, the "other person's" message was non-inflammatory, so its content was not relevant with regard to the asinine tone of your response. |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
> notice how you left the other persons message out..;-)
I notice how you gloss over the fact that your previous response was brain-dead. In any event, the "other person's" message was non-inflammatory, so its content was not relevant with regard to the asinine tone of your response. |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
> notice how you left the other persons message out..;-)
I notice how you gloss over the fact that your previous response was brain-dead. In any event, the "other person's" message was non-inflammatory, so its content was not relevant with regard to the asinine tone of your response. |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
>>If you rate a design poor just because of fuel economy, then you're being >>rather narrow-minded as to all the variables of powertrain design. > > > 20 years ago you might have been right, but today there's precious > little excuse for sub-17 mpg efficiency - given primarily steady > highway driving - in a vehicle as relatively small and light as the > Santa Fe. As already indicated, my 10 year-old, much heavier Explorer > (with performance that easily equals the SF's) was not only giving me > better gas mileage, it did so for over 154,000 trouble-free miles, and > with minimal maintenance on my part. What advantages above that should > I expect from the SF as my "trade-off" for the reduced mileage? I'm > not being confrontational about this (I prefer to leave the mindlessly > obnoxious behavior to Pete and his ilk). I'm genuinely looking for > answers. > I'm curious, why didn't you buy another Explorer or an Escape if you wanted something smaller? Matt |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
>>If you rate a design poor just because of fuel economy, then you're being >>rather narrow-minded as to all the variables of powertrain design. > > > 20 years ago you might have been right, but today there's precious > little excuse for sub-17 mpg efficiency - given primarily steady > highway driving - in a vehicle as relatively small and light as the > Santa Fe. As already indicated, my 10 year-old, much heavier Explorer > (with performance that easily equals the SF's) was not only giving me > better gas mileage, it did so for over 154,000 trouble-free miles, and > with minimal maintenance on my part. What advantages above that should > I expect from the SF as my "trade-off" for the reduced mileage? I'm > not being confrontational about this (I prefer to leave the mindlessly > obnoxious behavior to Pete and his ilk). I'm genuinely looking for > answers. > I'm curious, why didn't you buy another Explorer or an Escape if you wanted something smaller? Matt |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
>>If you rate a design poor just because of fuel economy, then you're being >>rather narrow-minded as to all the variables of powertrain design. > > > 20 years ago you might have been right, but today there's precious > little excuse for sub-17 mpg efficiency - given primarily steady > highway driving - in a vehicle as relatively small and light as the > Santa Fe. As already indicated, my 10 year-old, much heavier Explorer > (with performance that easily equals the SF's) was not only giving me > better gas mileage, it did so for over 154,000 trouble-free miles, and > with minimal maintenance on my part. What advantages above that should > I expect from the SF as my "trade-off" for the reduced mileage? I'm > not being confrontational about this (I prefer to leave the mindlessly > obnoxious behavior to Pete and his ilk). I'm genuinely looking for > answers. > I'm curious, why didn't you buy another Explorer or an Escape if you wanted something smaller? Matt |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
> I must apologize to all respondants to this part of my inquiry, and > offer a modification to my observations. This morning I made a point > of paying extra attention to the issue and noted that, while there is > indeed a little extra mechanical resistance, the sudden acceleration > didn't correlate as closely with the "breaking" of the pedel as I > previously perceived. There is actually a very tiny delay between that > event and the sudden acceleration, leading me to suspect the > electronics as the culprit. Does that sound more reasonable? If so, > is it something easily addressed by the dealer? > I have a similar problem with my 06 Sonata. The dealer told me that the electronics can't be adjusted. Mine is clearly an electronics problem, not a sticking problem. The throttle is very touchy and has a slight delay in actuation. Makes driving standard shift a bear. I should have taken a longer test drive. I assumed my trouble was simply lack of familiarity with the car since I typically drive a full-size Chevy pickup with standard shift. However, now that I've owned the Sonata for two months, I know it isn't a familiarity issue. It is a design issue with the electronic throttle. I've gotten better with it, but I still can't make consistent smooth starts without either over or under reving the engine. If I'd known this was characteristic of the vehicle, I would not have bought it, or at least wouldn't have bought the standard shift model. Matt |
Re: 2005 Santa Fe Accelerator
WuzYoungOnceToo wrote:
> I must apologize to all respondants to this part of my inquiry, and > offer a modification to my observations. This morning I made a point > of paying extra attention to the issue and noted that, while there is > indeed a little extra mechanical resistance, the sudden acceleration > didn't correlate as closely with the "breaking" of the pedel as I > previously perceived. There is actually a very tiny delay between that > event and the sudden acceleration, leading me to suspect the > electronics as the culprit. Does that sound more reasonable? If so, > is it something easily addressed by the dealer? > I have a similar problem with my 06 Sonata. The dealer told me that the electronics can't be adjusted. Mine is clearly an electronics problem, not a sticking problem. The throttle is very touchy and has a slight delay in actuation. Makes driving standard shift a bear. I should have taken a longer test drive. I assumed my trouble was simply lack of familiarity with the car since I typically drive a full-size Chevy pickup with standard shift. However, now that I've owned the Sonata for two months, I know it isn't a familiarity issue. It is a design issue with the electronic throttle. I've gotten better with it, but I still can't make consistent smooth starts without either over or under reving the engine. If I'd known this was characteristic of the vehicle, I would not have bought it, or at least wouldn't have bought the standard shift model. Matt |
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