2006 Elantra owners
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
Apparently, the new Civic has a problem either with an engine/chassis
resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
Mooron wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Don Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas may be great cars -- I've owned a two -- but, I would suggest if
>>>one is considering a new generation Civic, go over to the 2006+ Civic
>>>forum. Quite a number of owners are not happy with their new cars due
>>>to the notorious "Lug Bug" problem. It seems like a fair number of
>>>owners are experiencing this problem, as yet not fully explained by
>>>Honda.
>>
>>What is the lug bug problem?
>>
>>I've only owned one Honda, an 84 Accord purchased new, and it was a
>>piece of crap. The top end of the engine self-destructed with 72,000
>>miles on it. It is the only car I've owned in 30+ years that didn't
>>make 100K miles.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I always thought Honda made good stuff. I test drove a Civic before
> I bought my Elantra. I didn't like the Civic that much and the Elantra
> has a better warranty. I've also had very good luck with Hyundai, so
> I stuck with them.
Similarly, I originally planned to buy a 2006 Corolla, but the driving
position in them was terrible. And then when I found I could get a
Sonata for virtually the same price, the decision was fairly easy.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Don Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas may be great cars -- I've owned a two -- but, I would suggest if
>>>one is considering a new generation Civic, go over to the 2006+ Civic
>>>forum. Quite a number of owners are not happy with their new cars due
>>>to the notorious "Lug Bug" problem. It seems like a fair number of
>>>owners are experiencing this problem, as yet not fully explained by
>>>Honda.
>>
>>What is the lug bug problem?
>>
>>I've only owned one Honda, an 84 Accord purchased new, and it was a
>>piece of crap. The top end of the engine self-destructed with 72,000
>>miles on it. It is the only car I've owned in 30+ years that didn't
>>make 100K miles.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I always thought Honda made good stuff. I test drove a Civic before
> I bought my Elantra. I didn't like the Civic that much and the Elantra
> has a better warranty. I've also had very good luck with Hyundai, so
> I stuck with them.
Similarly, I originally planned to buy a 2006 Corolla, but the driving
position in them was terrible. And then when I found I could get a
Sonata for virtually the same price, the decision was fairly easy.
Matt
#168
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
Mooron wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Don Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas may be great cars -- I've owned a two -- but, I would suggest if
>>>one is considering a new generation Civic, go over to the 2006+ Civic
>>>forum. Quite a number of owners are not happy with their new cars due
>>>to the notorious "Lug Bug" problem. It seems like a fair number of
>>>owners are experiencing this problem, as yet not fully explained by
>>>Honda.
>>
>>What is the lug bug problem?
>>
>>I've only owned one Honda, an 84 Accord purchased new, and it was a
>>piece of crap. The top end of the engine self-destructed with 72,000
>>miles on it. It is the only car I've owned in 30+ years that didn't
>>make 100K miles.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I always thought Honda made good stuff. I test drove a Civic before
> I bought my Elantra. I didn't like the Civic that much and the Elantra
> has a better warranty. I've also had very good luck with Hyundai, so
> I stuck with them.
Similarly, I originally planned to buy a 2006 Corolla, but the driving
position in them was terrible. And then when I found I could get a
Sonata for virtually the same price, the decision was fairly easy.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Don Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas may be great cars -- I've owned a two -- but, I would suggest if
>>>one is considering a new generation Civic, go over to the 2006+ Civic
>>>forum. Quite a number of owners are not happy with their new cars due
>>>to the notorious "Lug Bug" problem. It seems like a fair number of
>>>owners are experiencing this problem, as yet not fully explained by
>>>Honda.
>>
>>What is the lug bug problem?
>>
>>I've only owned one Honda, an 84 Accord purchased new, and it was a
>>piece of crap. The top end of the engine self-destructed with 72,000
>>miles on it. It is the only car I've owned in 30+ years that didn't
>>make 100K miles.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I always thought Honda made good stuff. I test drove a Civic before
> I bought my Elantra. I didn't like the Civic that much and the Elantra
> has a better warranty. I've also had very good luck with Hyundai, so
> I stuck with them.
Similarly, I originally planned to buy a 2006 Corolla, but the driving
position in them was terrible. And then when I found I could get a
Sonata for virtually the same price, the decision was fairly easy.
Matt
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
Mooron wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Don Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas may be great cars -- I've owned a two -- but, I would suggest if
>>>one is considering a new generation Civic, go over to the 2006+ Civic
>>>forum. Quite a number of owners are not happy with their new cars due
>>>to the notorious "Lug Bug" problem. It seems like a fair number of
>>>owners are experiencing this problem, as yet not fully explained by
>>>Honda.
>>
>>What is the lug bug problem?
>>
>>I've only owned one Honda, an 84 Accord purchased new, and it was a
>>piece of crap. The top end of the engine self-destructed with 72,000
>>miles on it. It is the only car I've owned in 30+ years that didn't
>>make 100K miles.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I always thought Honda made good stuff. I test drove a Civic before
> I bought my Elantra. I didn't like the Civic that much and the Elantra
> has a better warranty. I've also had very good luck with Hyundai, so
> I stuck with them.
Similarly, I originally planned to buy a 2006 Corolla, but the driving
position in them was terrible. And then when I found I could get a
Sonata for virtually the same price, the decision was fairly easy.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>>Don Allen wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas may be great cars -- I've owned a two -- but, I would suggest if
>>>one is considering a new generation Civic, go over to the 2006+ Civic
>>>forum. Quite a number of owners are not happy with their new cars due
>>>to the notorious "Lug Bug" problem. It seems like a fair number of
>>>owners are experiencing this problem, as yet not fully explained by
>>>Honda.
>>
>>What is the lug bug problem?
>>
>>I've only owned one Honda, an 84 Accord purchased new, and it was a
>>piece of crap. The top end of the engine self-destructed with 72,000
>>miles on it. It is the only car I've owned in 30+ years that didn't
>>make 100K miles.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> I always thought Honda made good stuff. I test drove a Civic before
> I bought my Elantra. I didn't like the Civic that much and the Elantra
> has a better warranty. I've also had very good luck with Hyundai, so
> I stuck with them.
Similarly, I originally planned to buy a 2006 Corolla, but the driving
position in them was terrible. And then when I found I could get a
Sonata for virtually the same price, the decision was fairly easy.
Matt
#170
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
Don Allen wrote:
> Apparently, the new Civic has a problem either with an engine/chassis
> resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
> forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
> appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
> theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
> when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
> an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
> high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
> been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
>
> Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
> It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
> exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
>
> One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
> owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
> complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
> a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
>
Just shows you that every new design carries with it some risk of a
problem or two, no matter who the manufacturer is.
Matt
> Apparently, the new Civic has a problem either with an engine/chassis
> resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
> forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
> appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
> theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
> when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
> an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
> high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
> been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
>
> Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
> It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
> exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
>
> One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
> owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
> complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
> a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
>
Just shows you that every new design carries with it some risk of a
problem or two, no matter who the manufacturer is.
Matt
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
Don Allen wrote:
> Apparently, the new Civic has a problem either with an engine/chassis
> resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
> forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
> appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
> theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
> when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
> an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
> high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
> been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
>
> Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
> It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
> exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
>
> One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
> owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
> complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
> a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
>
Just shows you that every new design carries with it some risk of a
problem or two, no matter who the manufacturer is.
Matt
> Apparently, the new Civic has a problem either with an engine/chassis
> resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
> forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
> appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
> theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
> when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
> an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
> high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
> been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
>
> Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
> It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
> exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
>
> One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
> owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
> complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
> a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
>
Just shows you that every new design carries with it some risk of a
problem or two, no matter who the manufacturer is.
Matt
#172
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
Don Allen wrote:
> Apparently, the new Civic has a problem either with an engine/chassis
> resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
> forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
> appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
> theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
> when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
> an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
> high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
> been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
>
> Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
> It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
> exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
>
> One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
> owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
> complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
> a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
>
Just shows you that every new design carries with it some risk of a
problem or two, no matter who the manufacturer is.
Matt
> Apparently, the new Civic has a problem either with an engine/chassis
> resonance or an engine "lugging" problem. The users on Edmunds.com
> forums have been complaining quite a bit about this for some time. It
> appears to affect primarily the Civic with the AT transmission. Some
> theorize that in Honda's search for the holy grail in fuel economy,
> when the transmission is in 5th gear, the engine is turning too low of
> an RPM (especially in town), and causes the engine to lug, i.e. too
> high of a gear for engine RPMs. For some time now, the posters have
> been calling it the "Lug Bug" problem.
>
> Others think it's due to an inherent engine/chassis resonance problem.
> It's not in their minds as it seems Honda has acknowleged the problem
> exists, but has yet to propose a fix.
>
> One thing is for certain, if you think there are dissatisfied Hyundai
> owners, you will be surprised how many new 2006 Civic owners are
> complaining in a very vocal way. Frankly, it surprised me, and I drove
> a Civic for a number of years, and had excellent experience with it.
>
Just shows you that every new design carries with it some risk of a
problem or two, no matter who the manufacturer is.
Matt
#173
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
#174
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
#175
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
#176
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
On 1 Apr 2006 07:45:20 -0800, abc3399@aol.com wrote:
>I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
>miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
>stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
>back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
>the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
tried one, bought the Hyundai. The Civic gave me calustrophobia.
;-)
>I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
>miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
>stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
>back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
>the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
tried one, bought the Hyundai. The Civic gave me calustrophobia.
;-)
#177
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
On 1 Apr 2006 07:45:20 -0800, abc3399@aol.com wrote:
>I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
>miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
>stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
>back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
>the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
tried one, bought the Hyundai. The Civic gave me calustrophobia.
;-)
>I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
>miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
>stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
>back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
>the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
tried one, bought the Hyundai. The Civic gave me calustrophobia.
;-)
#178
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Re: 2006 Elantra owners
On 1 Apr 2006 07:45:20 -0800, abc3399@aol.com wrote:
>I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
>miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
>stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
>back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
>the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
tried one, bought the Hyundai. The Civic gave me calustrophobia.
;-)
>I can tell you Elantra is one of the best in the market,I had put 25k
>miles on my 05 Elantra, no problem except the horn. all the miles was
>stop and go driving(pizza delivery), lot of trunk space with the hatch
>back one,but you should also look at the 06 Civic ,not sure what are
>the prices different,if not much I would prefer the Civic .
tried one, bought the Hyundai. The Civic gave me calustrophobia.
;-)
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