2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
see :
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388

Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the
Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Deck wrote:

> 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
> see :
> http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>
> Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
> first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the
> Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
> top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
> Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.

This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at
trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
horror! :-))

People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from
Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is
good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
usually will give more car for their dollar.

A.C.
(Contact me? Put underscores between the words.)

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Deck wrote:

> 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
> see :
> http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>
> Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
> first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the
> Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
> top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
> Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.

This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at
trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
horror! :-))

People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from
Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is
good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
usually will give more car for their dollar.

A.C.
(Contact me? Put underscores between the words.)

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Deck wrote:

> 3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
> see :
> http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>
> Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
> first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the
> Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
> top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
> Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.

This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at
trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
horror! :-))

People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from
Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is
good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
usually will give more car for their dollar.

A.C.
(Contact me? Put underscores between the words.)

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

A.C. wrote:

> Deck wrote:
>
>
>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
>>see :
>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>>
>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the
>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.
>
>
> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at
> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
> horror! :-))
>
> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from
> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is
> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
> usually will give more car for their dollar.

While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it
certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think
Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will
be a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this
survey is accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the
numbers, but this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics
isn't the same as ours or Japan's. That is well known.


Matt

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

A.C. wrote:

> Deck wrote:
>
>
>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
>>see :
>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>>
>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the
>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.
>
>
> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at
> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
> horror! :-))
>
> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from
> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is
> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
> usually will give more car for their dollar.

While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it
certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think
Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will
be a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this
survey is accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the
numbers, but this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics
isn't the same as ours or Japan's. That is well known.


Matt

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

A.C. wrote:

> Deck wrote:
>
>
>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
>>see :
>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>>
>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for the
>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.
>
>
> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car at
> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
> horror! :-))
>
> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality from
> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition is
> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
> usually will give more car for their dollar.

While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it
certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think
Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will
be a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this
survey is accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the
numbers, but this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics
isn't the same as ours or Japan's. That is well known.


Matt

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

can you tell us how you can pronounce these truths ? .........seems to me
the japanese have been far from ethically superior.(rape of Nanking, Korean
comfort girls come to mind) Autowise, how is the sonata leagues inferior to,
say, a camry? I will say time will tell, and initial quality isn't
everything......ps, I like to top post, and am going to stop apologizing for
it!
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:c7Gjg.9630$lb.856011@news1.epix.net...
> A.C. wrote:
>
>> Deck wrote:
>>
>>
>>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
>>>see :
>>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>>>
>>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
>>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for
>>>the
>>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
>>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
>>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.
>>
>>
>> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car
>> at
>> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
>> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
>> horror! :-))
>>
>> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality
>> from
>> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
>> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition
>> is
>> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
>> usually will give more car for their dollar.
>
> While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it
> certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think
> Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be
> a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is
> accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but
> this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as
> ours or Japan's. That is well known.
>
>
> Matt

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

can you tell us how you can pronounce these truths ? .........seems to me
the japanese have been far from ethically superior.(rape of Nanking, Korean
comfort girls come to mind) Autowise, how is the sonata leagues inferior to,
say, a camry? I will say time will tell, and initial quality isn't
everything......ps, I like to top post, and am going to stop apologizing for
it!
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:c7Gjg.9630$lb.856011@news1.epix.net...
> A.C. wrote:
>
>> Deck wrote:
>>
>>
>>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
>>>see :
>>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>>>
>>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
>>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for
>>>the
>>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
>>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
>>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.
>>
>>
>> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car
>> at
>> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
>> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
>> horror! :-))
>>
>> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality
>> from
>> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
>> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition
>> is
>> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
>> usually will give more car for their dollar.
>
> While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it
> certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think
> Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be
> a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is
> accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but
> this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as
> ours or Japan's. That is well known.
>
>
> Matt

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

can you tell us how you can pronounce these truths ? .........seems to me
the japanese have been far from ethically superior.(rape of Nanking, Korean
comfort girls come to mind) Autowise, how is the sonata leagues inferior to,
say, a camry? I will say time will tell, and initial quality isn't
everything......ps, I like to top post, and am going to stop apologizing for
it!
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:c7Gjg.9630$lb.856011@news1.epix.net...
> A.C. wrote:
>
>> Deck wrote:
>>
>>
>>>3rd place behind Porsche and Lexus. then Toyota jaguar Honda cadillac
>>>see :
>>>http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?p...88#post4253388
>>>
>>>Quote:Hyundai ranks among the top three nameplates in the study for the
>>>first time in the history of IQS. Highlights include a top ranking for
>>>the
>>>Hyundai Tucson in the compact multi-activity vehicle (MAV) segment, and
>>>top-three segment performances for the redesigned Sonata and all-new
>>>Azera, as well as the Elantra and Tiburon.
>>
>>
>> This is good-news to Hyundai customers (will increase value of their car
>> at
>> trade/sale time) and for me. (Yipes, an evil car salesman who sells the
>> Hyundai line in the Sacramento, CA area is lurking here! Oh the
>> horror! :-))
>>
>> People are getting 'educated.' They can get the same or better quality
>> from
>> Hyundai without paying Toyota/Honda prices. That is NOT to imply that
>> either Toyota or Honda are 'bad' autos. They are excellent. Competition
>> is
>> good. But there is now a third choice out there for consumers, one that
>> usually will give more car for their dollar.
>
> While I've been quite pleased with the assembly quality of my Sonata, it
> certainly isn't in the same league yet as Toyota. However, I think
> Hyundai's bribes are much better than Toyota's. I suspect Hyundai will be
> a match for Toyota in a few more years, but I don't believe this survey is
> accurate today. I think Hyundai is intentionally skewing the numbers, but
> this is nothing new for Koreans. Their sense of ethics isn't the same as
> ours or Japan's. That is well known.
>
>
> Matt

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:)

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:)

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:)

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Deck wrote:

> Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
> enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:)
>

No, not at all. Hyundai's gains in product quality have been
impressive. I just think that the current rating is too much due to
bribery and not enough due (yet) to underlying product quality. I have
no doubt that Hyundai will get there, but I don't think they are there
yet. I'd place them in the top 10 probably, but they aren't ahead of
Toyota by any stretch of the imagination.


Matt

Re: 2006 Hyundai quality report from J D Powers
 

Deck wrote:

> Damn Matt! is this the same as "no good deed goes unpunished"...
> enjoy the moment. leave the skeptics to the honda/toyata people!!:)
>

No, not at all. Hyundai's gains in product quality have been
impressive. I just think that the current rating is too much due to
bribery and not enough due (yet) to underlying product quality. I have
no doubt that Hyundai will get there, but I don't think they are there
yet. I'd place them in the top 10 probably, but they aren't ahead of
Toyota by any stretch of the imagination.


Matt