Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

marcnew@execpc.com wrote:

> I have an LX, but only have 600 miles on it. The initial quality has
> been very good with the my only complaint being noise coming from the
> rear suspension. The car has been amazingly quiet. I've heard
> various complaints about the gas mileage and I think that after the
> car is broken in I should be able to get pretty close to the 30 mpg
> highway on the sticker. Had the car out for the first time yesterday
> on the road (some interstate, some heavy traffic (Chicago), and some
> US highway with stops and slowdowns for towns, and got just under
> 28MPG doing 60-70 on the open portions.

That is a lot different than the overall average for a full tank, however.


Matt

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

The car looks fantastic, makes my 98 Sonata look like a Yugo :)
BUT, my personal opinion on ANY new car model, is to wait for their second
(or third) year of production, this way they've ironed out "most" of the
bugs..
I've learned from the past...just my 2 cents.


"bubba" <bubbaclinton@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1141767139.764671.274590@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
>I am thinking about buying the Sonata GLS V6, which is being assembled
> in the new plant in AL. (the V4 is still being made in Korea)
>
> I know the Sonata's in the past several years have been well made, but
> I am concerned about the change in their manufacturing plant.
>
> If you are a 06 Hyundai Sonata owner, what do you think of its initial
> quality?
> Thanks.
>

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

The car looks fantastic, makes my 98 Sonata look like a Yugo :)
BUT, my personal opinion on ANY new car model, is to wait for their second
(or third) year of production, this way they've ironed out "most" of the
bugs..
I've learned from the past...just my 2 cents.


"bubba" <bubbaclinton@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1141767139.764671.274590@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
>I am thinking about buying the Sonata GLS V6, which is being assembled
> in the new plant in AL. (the V4 is still being made in Korea)
>
> I know the Sonata's in the past several years have been well made, but
> I am concerned about the change in their manufacturing plant.
>
> If you are a 06 Hyundai Sonata owner, what do you think of its initial
> quality?
> Thanks.
>

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

The car looks fantastic, makes my 98 Sonata look like a Yugo :)
BUT, my personal opinion on ANY new car model, is to wait for their second
(or third) year of production, this way they've ironed out "most" of the
bugs..
I've learned from the past...just my 2 cents.


"bubba" <bubbaclinton@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1141767139.764671.274590@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
>I am thinking about buying the Sonata GLS V6, which is being assembled
> in the new plant in AL. (the V4 is still being made in Korea)
>
> I know the Sonata's in the past several years have been well made, but
> I am concerned about the change in their manufacturing plant.
>
> If you are a 06 Hyundai Sonata owner, what do you think of its initial
> quality?
> Thanks.
>

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message
news:2kkt021omae45ggkt42u87tc3nf5f31r0h@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:22:18 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't really agree that my car is an anomaly. I'm not having problems
>>that
>>are all that serious. Tire (or whatever is is) problems and a bad power
>>outlet. From what I understand, my headlight problems are just a poor
>>design. The real issue is a dealer service department that is incapable of
>>fixing the problems that the car does have, and being left out to dry by
>>Hyundai. Better to find out how problems will be addressed before
>>purchasing
>>the car than after. Just as important is the support you receive from the
>>manufacturer if there is problems, as the initial quality of the vehicle.
>>
>
> Bob, I searched the Web for weeks and months before buying my Sonata, and
> yours is the first complaint about the lights, lighter, flat spots, and
> locks that I have seen. And the 2nd, and the 3rd, and the 4th...
>
> These are not common problems, in spite of your trying to flood the
> Internet
> and make them appear so.
>
> We know that 10% of people are never satisfied with anything. It seems we
> have met a "10 percenter".

Well, it's not as simple as I'm not satisfied with it. Overall, the car is
not that bad. The car vibrates badly enough that the passenger seat - if
empty - rocks front to back. The dealer agrees there's a problem, but
putting tires on the car doesn't fix it. As for the headlights, this
http://tinyurl.com/re4ed is how the dealer adjusted them on the first
attempt. I'm supposed to be "satisfied" that I've waited a month and a half
for them to find a replacement power outlet? If they would / could fix the
problems I mentioned (keep mentioning, as you've noticed), I honestly will
be happy with it.


> Another 20% of people do not know how to ask for a problem to be fixed
> without being hostile and confrontational. Try being reasonable with your
> dealer. Try asking instead of demanding. Believe it or not, it's in your
> dealer's best interest to fix your problems.



>
> BTW, my gas mileage (actual, not trip computer) was 25.x and 26.1 with
> only
> 800 miles on it.

Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60
MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it
should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
variables that the driver could affect.

> --
> Bob

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message
news:2kkt021omae45ggkt42u87tc3nf5f31r0h@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:22:18 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't really agree that my car is an anomaly. I'm not having problems
>>that
>>are all that serious. Tire (or whatever is is) problems and a bad power
>>outlet. From what I understand, my headlight problems are just a poor
>>design. The real issue is a dealer service department that is incapable of
>>fixing the problems that the car does have, and being left out to dry by
>>Hyundai. Better to find out how problems will be addressed before
>>purchasing
>>the car than after. Just as important is the support you receive from the
>>manufacturer if there is problems, as the initial quality of the vehicle.
>>
>
> Bob, I searched the Web for weeks and months before buying my Sonata, and
> yours is the first complaint about the lights, lighter, flat spots, and
> locks that I have seen. And the 2nd, and the 3rd, and the 4th...
>
> These are not common problems, in spite of your trying to flood the
> Internet
> and make them appear so.
>
> We know that 10% of people are never satisfied with anything. It seems we
> have met a "10 percenter".

Well, it's not as simple as I'm not satisfied with it. Overall, the car is
not that bad. The car vibrates badly enough that the passenger seat - if
empty - rocks front to back. The dealer agrees there's a problem, but
putting tires on the car doesn't fix it. As for the headlights, this
http://tinyurl.com/re4ed is how the dealer adjusted them on the first
attempt. I'm supposed to be "satisfied" that I've waited a month and a half
for them to find a replacement power outlet? If they would / could fix the
problems I mentioned (keep mentioning, as you've noticed), I honestly will
be happy with it.


> Another 20% of people do not know how to ask for a problem to be fixed
> without being hostile and confrontational. Try being reasonable with your
> dealer. Try asking instead of demanding. Believe it or not, it's in your
> dealer's best interest to fix your problems.



>
> BTW, my gas mileage (actual, not trip computer) was 25.x and 26.1 with
> only
> 800 miles on it.

Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60
MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it
should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
variables that the driver could affect.

> --
> Bob

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message
news:2kkt021omae45ggkt42u87tc3nf5f31r0h@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 07:22:18 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't really agree that my car is an anomaly. I'm not having problems
>>that
>>are all that serious. Tire (or whatever is is) problems and a bad power
>>outlet. From what I understand, my headlight problems are just a poor
>>design. The real issue is a dealer service department that is incapable of
>>fixing the problems that the car does have, and being left out to dry by
>>Hyundai. Better to find out how problems will be addressed before
>>purchasing
>>the car than after. Just as important is the support you receive from the
>>manufacturer if there is problems, as the initial quality of the vehicle.
>>
>
> Bob, I searched the Web for weeks and months before buying my Sonata, and
> yours is the first complaint about the lights, lighter, flat spots, and
> locks that I have seen. And the 2nd, and the 3rd, and the 4th...
>
> These are not common problems, in spite of your trying to flood the
> Internet
> and make them appear so.
>
> We know that 10% of people are never satisfied with anything. It seems we
> have met a "10 percenter".

Well, it's not as simple as I'm not satisfied with it. Overall, the car is
not that bad. The car vibrates badly enough that the passenger seat - if
empty - rocks front to back. The dealer agrees there's a problem, but
putting tires on the car doesn't fix it. As for the headlights, this
http://tinyurl.com/re4ed is how the dealer adjusted them on the first
attempt. I'm supposed to be "satisfied" that I've waited a month and a half
for them to find a replacement power outlet? If they would / could fix the
problems I mentioned (keep mentioning, as you've noticed), I honestly will
be happy with it.


> Another 20% of people do not know how to ask for a problem to be fixed
> without being hostile and confrontational. Try being reasonable with your
> dealer. Try asking instead of demanding. Believe it or not, it's in your
> dealer's best interest to fix your problems.



>
> BTW, my gas mileage (actual, not trip computer) was 25.x and 26.1 with
> only
> 800 miles on it.

Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60
MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it
should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
variables that the driver could affect.

> --
> Bob

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

I have 2.4k miles on my 2006 LX. Everything works as designed but the
design is showing some weakness. The steering wheel audio controls cant
change the radio station (only volume and cd/am/fm); the leather seats
are uncomfortable. Gas mileage - i can get 33/34 mpg on the highway
going straight 55 mph with no traffic..but my commute (11 miles in 25
minutes through a few towns) is hitting about 18 mpg. The trip
computer is simplistic - no a/b trip stuff, no "instantaneous"
readings.

But all the trim fits, no wind noise, little engine noise, the
automatic lights come off and on as expected.

But the seats..those are gonna kill me lol

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

I have 2.4k miles on my 2006 LX. Everything works as designed but the
design is showing some weakness. The steering wheel audio controls cant
change the radio station (only volume and cd/am/fm); the leather seats
are uncomfortable. Gas mileage - i can get 33/34 mpg on the highway
going straight 55 mph with no traffic..but my commute (11 miles in 25
minutes through a few towns) is hitting about 18 mpg. The trip
computer is simplistic - no a/b trip stuff, no "instantaneous"
readings.

But all the trim fits, no wind noise, little engine noise, the
automatic lights come off and on as expected.

But the seats..those are gonna kill me lol

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

I have 2.4k miles on my 2006 LX. Everything works as designed but the
design is showing some weakness. The steering wheel audio controls cant
change the radio station (only volume and cd/am/fm); the leather seats
are uncomfortable. Gas mileage - i can get 33/34 mpg on the highway
going straight 55 mph with no traffic..but my commute (11 miles in 25
minutes through a few towns) is hitting about 18 mpg. The trip
computer is simplistic - no a/b trip stuff, no "instantaneous"
readings.

But all the trim fits, no wind noise, little engine noise, the
automatic lights come off and on as expected.

But the seats..those are gonna kill me lol

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
wrote:


>
>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60
>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it
>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
>variables that the driver could affect.
>
>> --
>> Bob
>


Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by
buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of
these 'problems' get worked out.

Thanks again. Now back to shopping....

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
wrote:


>
>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60
>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it
>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
>variables that the driver could affect.
>
>> --
>> Bob
>


Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by
buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of
these 'problems' get worked out.

Thanks again. Now back to shopping....

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
wrote:


>
>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60
>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it
>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
>variables that the driver could affect.
>
>> --
>> Bob
>


Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by
buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of
these 'problems' get worked out.

Thanks again. Now back to shopping....

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

"Dave Thompson" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:isns02d5gbb9nam7b342sgmp2uaontugva@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at
>>60
>>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says
>>it
>>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
>>variables that the driver could affect.
>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>
>
>
> Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by
> buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of
> these 'problems' get worked out.
>
> Thanks again. Now back to shopping....
Dave T, whats up? The car is beautiful, quiet, fast, nice riding, good fit
and finish, excellent stereo, excellent heater/ac,safe, and did I mention
fast? If its gas milage alone you want, look for a 1987 chevy
sprint(suzuki) 3 cylinder. My little bugger got over 50 mpg at 55mph. Of
course it weighed 1500 lbs and had a wheelbase around 80 ".

Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
 

"Dave Thompson" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:isns02d5gbb9nam7b342sgmp2uaontugva@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at
>>60
>>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says
>>it
>>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of
>>variables that the driver could affect.
>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>
>
>
> Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by
> buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of
> these 'problems' get worked out.
>
> Thanks again. Now back to shopping....
Dave T, whats up? The car is beautiful, quiet, fast, nice riding, good fit
and finish, excellent stereo, excellent heater/ac,safe, and did I mention
fast? If its gas milage alone you want, look for a 1987 chevy
sprint(suzuki) 3 cylinder. My little bugger got over 50 mpg at 55mph. Of
course it weighed 1500 lbs and had a wheelbase around 80 ".